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Ranked Participation is Abysmal

Ranked Participation  

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  1. 1. Why do you think that Ranked participation is low?

    • Playing the same map over and over gets tiring
    • Yo Yo effect, seems I cant move forward or I move backwards after gaining a rank
    • I quit playing I dont want to lose my current rank
    • Too toxic environment
    • I have only 1 ship that works well in the tier 8 matches
    • I dont have a tier 8 ship yet.
    • Same ships over and over too boring
    • Cant division
    • Queue is too long.
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7100+ on the server 40 in ranked for tier 7.  That is .005 or 1/2 of 1% playing ranked.  Had even less of percentage when there was 12K on and 53 in Ranked .004 percent less than 1/2 of 1%.     Why do you think Ranked Participation is so low?

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 Why do you think Ranked Participation is so low?

What's doing it for me are the abysmal teammates who don't want to work together. I finally broke into rank 10 after trying to do so for the past week. I'm sure I'll get deranked to 12 again eventually, but I just can't stomach it. Even when I score first place on the losing team, there are times where I lose my star when the point difference between first and second are within 10-20 points. There was a game where the difference between first and second was just a measly 3 points.

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You missed the "other" option.

 

One major factor is that the ranked meta is boring AF.

 

Yesterday, I spent half an hour straight worth of gameplay just sitting inside a smoke cloud, barely moving, and taking potshots. I've spent games where I'm hiding behind an island rocking back and forth jockeying for a shot. And the worst part is, this kind of bullcrap works.

 

WG's intention with ranked seems to be to make fast paced matches, but their execution, simply cramming everything into a smaller area, has done the exact opposite. Without the freedom to move around the map (I mean, you can kite to the edge of the map if you want, but good luck contesting caps there), ranked has just devolved into a campfest where cover and vision is king.

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Its actually kinda odd. As I went up in rank, I actually started getting worse and worse teams. Perhaps it was just dumb luck, but I had a string of terrible games where the whole fleet fragmented almost immediately and that was incredibly frustrating. 

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You missed the "other" option.

 

One major factor is that the ranked meta is boring AF.

 

Yesterday, I spent half an hour straight worth of gameplay just sitting inside a smoke cloud, barely moving, and taking potshots. I've spent games where I'm hiding behind an island rocking back and forth jockeying for a shot. And the worst part is, this kind of bullcrap works.

 

WG's intention with ranked seems to be to make fast paced matches, but their execution, simply cramming everything into a smaller area, has done the exact opposite. Without the freedom to move around the map (I mean, you can kite to the edge of the map if you want, but good luck contesting caps there), ranked has just devolved into a campfest where cover and vision is king.

 

I agree entirely. I found the only games that were a reliable win were games with few destroyers (0-2) where the whole team pushed. Otherwise it just turns to a camping fest which is not really fun at all.

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The reason I don't play ranked:

Boring Meta.

Takes too long to get to rank 1.

Loss of rank on match loss. 

Infuriating team mates.

 

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Start everyone within 15km on the Ocean map. Every game. No smoke allowed, so torpedo reload bosters for DDs. Something like that would get me to play ranked. Hiding until you can score a momentum advantage is boring and Flint just isn't worth that kind of tedium. 

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If ranked participation were so low, players would not have been able to attain a whopping 600 ranked games played in 16 days. Just because a queue is empty doesn't mean there aren't any games. The queue does not take into account games in progress. I ranked out yesterday playing non-stop from 6 to 11PM EST in the 5-1 queue and that one only has a few dozen players active at any time.

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Voted yo-yo effect,  but it really comes down to my rank is determined by the MM and the rewards to move up are not worth the frustration.

 

Chances of getting rank 1 in a reasonable amount of time? If = almost 0, why play ranked at all?

Are ranked rewards any good?  Most rewards support more ranked play = why play ranked at all?

 

You want me to play more ranked, add in +50% ship exp and +silver flags and reward them for milestones other than rank X.

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Lack of ships after 15. Only just got all the mods in my NC. If the cap I had in it was higher I'd try to go further but only 3 skills so.... no. Maybe next season?

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just always remember Rank battle is not for everyone with no patience and want to rank 1 fast in a very easy way around.

 

I think the point being brought out here is that Ranked appeals to a tiny percentage of the server, and seems to prove that the vast majority of players here are here for fun, not intense competition. 

So should Wg be working on other modes that actually appeal to the majority of players? :hmm:

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7100+ on the server 40 in ranked for tier 7.  That is .005 or 1/2 of 1% playing ranked.  Had even less of percentage when there was 12K on and 53 in Ranked .004 percent less than 1/2 of 1%.     Why do you think Ranked Participation is so low?

 

When you put the numbers that way it is pretty small isnt it, 

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Honestly? It's the same problem with every other ranked season for me. I don't want to wait 10 minutes+ for a single ranked battle when I just came home after a long day at work and also had 90 minutes travel home to think about what I can do to rank up.

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When you put the numbers that way it is pretty small isnt it, 

 

I do not play ranked, idk why. 

 

By the way Киров in your sig is spelled wrong. 

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I have plenty of t 8 ships.  The Yo - Yo effect is to be expected in ranked.  You have to work hard to get your better ranks and have to work hard to keep them.  I have not seen much of the toxic hateful chat going on.  Division should not be allowed in ranked as it is a way to challenge yourself and see how you handle and react to a fluid situation as part of a smaller team.  If you want to division in ranked..see TEAM battles that's what they are all about.  I see ranked as more of a way to test your individual skill in a game that does require some teamwork.  I see a lot less taxic [edited]than I do in random.  I like Tier 8 ships better than tier 7 as tier 7 cruisers were generally treaty cruisers and kind of suck.  I am to rank 14 I just play a few battles per week.  I love the generous flag rewards which make it worthwhile and I like the smaller team sizes than random.  I am overall happy with this season.

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I think the point being brought out here is that Ranked appeals to a tiny percentage of the server, and seems to prove that the vast majority of players here are here for fun, not intense competition. 

So should Wg be working on other modes that actually appeal to the majority of players? :hmm:

 

It's not as if ranked is about competition anyway.

 

It's just a longer grind.

 

Sure, there's theoretically a limit to which how many people can rank out, but that limit is over 99% of the game's population. (Thanks to the fixed match size, and the zero sum game with stars below rank 10, you need 14ish people rank 11 or higher to keep generating stars for the people above. So, in theory, everyone on the server except 14 people will be able to rank out).

 

There's no actual ranking system, which says "hey, this is the approximate skill order of the people playing this game, and the top X percent get bonus prizes".

 

As it is, ranked is just a set of missions in a separate queue "win X games more than you lose!"

 

Ranked should be distilled down to it's core qualities, instead of being a mockery of actual competitive play.

 

Call it "challenge mode", and set "missions" to rank up. crap like, "kill 1 ship in 5 matches to go from rank 20>19", or, "score over 100 base exp 5 times to get from rank 16>15", or "score over 2k base exp 10 times to go from rank 2>1".

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Bad poll is bad. You should have listed rank 15 and below, because it was so damn bad I gave up at 19. Can't get passed it.

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Ranked is too easy. Its just seal clubbing at tier 8. Its not very toxic and is no different than random. Its easier to carry when the match is 1 v 13 rather than 1 v 23

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I'm currently at Rank 8.  I enjoy the different style of game-play that rank offers.  I haven't found the queue times to be excessive at all.

I've taken a very measured/low-stress approach to this season's ranked battles.  I was completely burned out last season and quit at Rank 5.  I'm having a much more enjoyable and stress-free time this season.  Where I end up is where I end up.

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I hit a wall when I achieved rank 12...I mean WOW I had some teams, last night I might have broken free from that because I'm 10th now and chugging along.  

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You should add another option: 

Needs too much time.

 

I want to get up to rank 5 but real life is calling and I must answer.

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