You Would Think Ranked Battles = Competent Teammates...

[SomemuttupNorth]

You'd think that.

 

Today has been truly awful for me in ranked battles. Out of like... 10?... games played, I've gotten 2 victories. And yes, I'm not perfect, but somehow nothing seems to go right. We cap, the enemy fleet is massed to blast us. We mass up, the enemy fleet surrounds us. 

 

And I swear I just saw a New Mexico firing High Explosive at a Warspite (I'm only at tier vi for some reason).

 

TL;DR: salty rant from a losing streak captain who doesn't know what he's doing wrong.

[Zhoyzu]

thats because youre in tier 6 ranked.

 

its less skill oriented than t8 but t8 is just as bad.

 

the only difference between random and ranked is ships per side

[SergeantHop]

Never assume.

[klymar8]

After 4 full seasons and with no real change that I can see this season ; " Dreamer ,nothing but a dreamer ," but can Ranked be better ? Oh no !     lol

[Kapitan_Wuff]

I have felt good about most of my teams, even some that I have lost with. Had my share of those teams...the ones you know are gonna lose before you even make contact with the enemy fleet. But that has been a minority of the battles. Disconnects have pretty much made ranked unplayable the last few days though. 

[zoesilvertongue]

Usually I'm the one telling people what to do and where to go and largely when they listen we win. It's the people refuse to listen or take advice that we lose. Then there is the ever present YOLO'ers and then hiders that are responsible for the loss.

 

I think the biggest problem I see is the lack of engagement. The battleship players are afraid to take a hit so they sit at max range and don't contribute to the fight. I crapyou not I have seen people sitting back the whole fight and not engaging until our team is almost dead, then they charge in for clean ups, deal a bunch of damage quickly at close range then ram someone for a kill. That guy is the one who gets top xp for some reason,

I feel like the top XP earner not losing a star is a good idea but bad in practice. It leads to people not wanting to engage, they just try to sit back and farm damage because they expect to lose. It seems like people are more interested in competing against their own team for the top XP spot because they expect to lose instead of working together with their team so that they win stars. This has been my experience this season.

Also  bots, every match someone on one of the teams moves forward, shots once then turns and sails to the edge of the map and does nothing the rest of the match. I've seen two different cv's in two different matches not move, launch planes and then sit there doing nothing the rest of the match,

[Nergy]

I think that the real competent players stay away from Ranked Battles in the first place, so don't expect to see them.

[SirKenshi]

Yeah, if you had never played/heard about it before.

Usually at T6 bracket players aren't very skilled and/or dont want to work as a team... but when you move to T8 bracket you'll see more people interested on teamplay and winning the game. Hopefully you could see those people in every game, sadly that not the case on this season and last one, at least to my experienced (last season was T7 instead of T8)

I'm at rank 10 and still see people lacking common sense and getting stuck with the "stay together (let them cap B for free)" refusing to try new tactics, so insecure of their own skills and afraid of being caught alone.

[Rusty_S85]

I guess I have been real lucky, sure been on losing streaks but ironically they seemed to have gone down quite a bit after I made a switch from a cruiser to a bb.  I play battleships and I am not afraid to put myself on the front line and take a pounding.  but now I have had teams that didn't seem to organize which is why I take a day off every 2 or three days after I gain a few ranks to let people balance out and to give myself a break.

 

Very funny thing though that I seen is I was down to about 1/4 health and I turned around and started to sail for cover to heal some.  Basically disengaging from the fight but like happens some times that one loud mouth on the team started throwing a fit over me breaking off the engagement to heal some.  Um sorry I know we are losing but me getting the last battleship we have on our team taken out is going to seal our fate for a lost for sure.  In the end I learned last year you work as a team but at the same time you play for yourself.  If your team is trying to set up a plan that is going to put you in a position that you don't like then do not go for it.  I had one match like that, they wanted me to cover cap A while they ran to cap B.  Sorry I know I'm a battleship and I have to speed but I am not going to be caught singled out and end up target practice.

[TurboT]

I think that the real competent players stay away from Ranked Battles in the first place, so don't expect to see them.

 

Negative.  Not all but most top people in this game play Ranked Battles.  You just never see them because they start at level 12 or 10 or something because of their previous success.

 

You need to fight through those entry level ranks to see the good players, and I will tell you that any mistake gets punished, so, you can't suck once you're there or you are just as detrimental to those  you whine about here.

 

[Rusty_S85]

Yeah, if you had never played/heard about it before.

Usually at T6 bracket players aren't very skilled and/or dont want to work as a team... but when you move to T8 bracket you'll see more people interested on teamplay and winning the game. Hopefully you could see those people in every game, sadly that not the case on this season and last one, at least to my experienced (last season was T7 instead of T8)

I'm at rank 10 and still see people lacking common sense and getting stuck with the "stay together (let them cap B for free)" refusing to try new tactics, so insecure of their own skills and afraid of being caught alone.

 

Believe me I am not afraid of being caught alone.  But I know for a fact if you are a battleship and you are by your lonesome, they will organize to the point that all ships will fire on you and you will be sunk in less than 30 seconds.  Ive had it happen no fewer than 3 times with my Tirpitz when I tried to solo out some and break their forces up.

[SirKenshi]

I mean being part of a strategy, not yolo in all the enemy team. If you have some tactical advantage you can exploit, you should take it. i mean why not? instead being useless at the back or elsewhere. If you have spotted 6 ships near A on North, but one ship, the enemy Fubuki is still undetected and you see something is capping B, and you are in your cruiser or Benson and you said: "Well, lets just stay together" thats pretty pathetic... i saw it many times today, people just spam on chat "stay together" meanwhile they are capping B for free and we can't inmediately cap or even contest A cos almost all their ships are there. Thats some example of what i'm talking about

[Azzura]

World of Bensons is all Ranked is...starting to see repeated 4DDs per team

[Rusty_S85]

I mean being part of a strategy, not yolo in all the enemy team. If you have some tactical advantage you can exploit, you should take it. i mean why not? instead being useless at the back or elsewhere. If you have spotted 6 ships near A on North, but one ship, the enemy Fubuki is still undetected and you see something is capping B, and you are in your cruiser or Benson and you said: "Well, lets just stay together" thats pretty pathetic... i saw it many times today, people just spam on chat "stay together" meanwhile they are capping B for free and we can't inmediately cap or even contest A cos almost all their ships are there. Thats some example of what i'm talking about

 

Of course, I had one case where it was my Tirpitz vs an enemy Tirpitz and Bismarck around an island.  I was by myself the destroyer that was close to me got taken out.  They started to run and I made a tactical move to the other side of the island my plan was to torpedo the Tirpitz as she emerged on the opposite side of the island.  I launched a salvo of four torpedos during that maneuver.  Sad to say the captain of the Tirpitz expected that and slowed down.  Still didn't discourage me as I knife edged on him and quickly got a citadel hit that took him out while four torpedos was coming at me.  One hit me on the prowl while two passed port and one passed starboard.  I turned my attention to Bismarck they were so scared they didn't watch where they were going and ran into an island.  This I said is my chance and I turned to launch a salvo of torpedos at the Bismarck tight spread.  Needless to say he deleted me but not before I got my torpedos off.  This gave my team a fighting chance and it was a huge risk I took based off a tactic that I knew in my mind might or might not work.​

 

If more players would take the time to exploit situations like this and try to force it to their advantage they would do a lot better at ranked and at lower ranks it would be easier on everyone and less headaches.

[Grevester]

You're in the first league, that everyone has access to. 

[SirKenshi]

 

Of course, I had one case where it was my Tirpitz vs an enemy Tirpitz and Bismarck around an island.  I was by myself the destroyer that was close to me got taken out.  They started to run and I made a tactical move to the other side of the island my plan was to torpedo the Tirpitz as she emerged on the opposite side of the island.  I launched a salvo of four torpedos during that maneuver.  Sad to say the captain of the Tirpitz expected that and slowed down.  Still didn't discourage me as I knife edged on him and quickly got a citadel hit that took him out while four torpedos was coming at me.  One hit me on the prowl while two passed port and one passed starboard.  I turned my attention to Bismarck they were so scared they didn't watch where they were going and ran into an island.  This I said is my chance and I turned to launch a salvo of torpedos at the Bismarck tight spread.  Needless to say he deleted me but not before I got my torpedos off.  This gave my team a fighting chance and it was a huge risk I took based off a tactic that I knew in my mind might or might not work.​

 

If more players would take the time to exploit situations like this and try to force it to their advantage they would do a lot better at ranked and at lower ranks it would be easier on everyone and less headaches.

 

Glad for you dude, that kind of moves is i'm talking about. Hope to see big-pants players like you more often in ranked. Last season was about to get sick of the sheer amount potatoes, just got rank 10 and quit ranked for my own psychological health 

[BlazerSparta]

... but when you move to T8 bracket you'll see more people interested on teamplay and winning the game.

 

More teamwork is nice, but I'm just going to say there's only so much HE spam from smoke you can tolerate before you want to punch through your monitor.

[collisionSpace]

You'd think that.

 

I wouldn't.. Because I know that the players for ranked come from the well of inbreds that caused me to stop playing and take a break a couple of weeks ago.

 

Venting aside, never assume teamwork will happen in an online game.

[TenguBlade]

If anything, Ranked teammates are worse than Random teammates because they think they're better than everyone else, have egos to match, and usually don't have the skills to back up their smack talk when they face actual competent players.  I disagreed with a Molotov about strategy on day one and he proceeded to stat-shame me (his overall WTR was 5 above mine and I had twice the number of battles).  So, you know, everyone listened to him because he "knows what he's doing" then he proceeds to camp behind an island the whole match ordering the rest of us forward to our deaths.  Granted, he is in a Molotov, but he was just hiding behind an island without firing - a Molotov should be running back and forth between the sides of the fleet in the back, throwing shells downrange the whole time.

 

Best instance I've had so far though was somebody calling me a scrub for using HE on his bow-on North Carolina.  Kept giving him 0-3k salvos by angling my Amagi against his AP (he never aimed for my superstructure), but he insisted on using "proper ammo" while I just burned him to the waterline and got an Arsonist for it.  Yeah, sure, I look down on HE-spamming battleships as much as any proper player will, but at some point insisting on the use of AP is just an exercise in futility.

[Sillypuddi]

Put the time in and grind it. Even the top 5 Ranked players have over 60+ games, just to move from Rank 12 to 5. DD's rule ranked, and always will. If you are a top end BB player you can run Bismarck or NC but if you want ez mode grinding just go Fubuki and then turn on your completely ignore the team and dunk BB's attitude. Benson is great if you know how to smoke out BB's properly and screen properly with your torps. 

[Rilak]

I think that the real competent players stay away from Ranked Battles in the first place, so don't expect to see them.

 

not true they just are waiting at rank 5 and got there very quickly with 50-80 games and 60% win rates. If your trapped at t6 and the 1st group of t8s your still in the beginner pool with bonus stars. After rank 10 the free stars end. And only teamwork and good play will push you higher.

[Cpt_RickSchwifty]

Im cursing those Fubuki drivers.....

 

Lost two games yesterday because I saw the que with 9+ DDs in it, so I dropped my Benson and brought out my Mogami, then I get stuck with a team that is - Tashkent, Fubuki, Fubuki vs Lo Yang, Benson, Benson our team could not contest a single cap and the DDs were hiding behind the rest of the team refusing to use their smoke and just spamming torps into the darkness with the poor little trashcan begging the Fubukis to spot something. 

 

Screw you MM gimping a team like that is funny once, but twice really sucked. Let me past this rank 9 wall  . I got to 9 in 30 games with a 75% win rate and now I've be stuck here for two days   

[SirKenshi]

 

More teamwork is nice, but I'm just going to say there's only so much HE spam from smoke you can tolerate before you want to punch through your monitor.

 

That's why i'm starting to love my New Orleans, got something like 5 wins one after another on it after 4 losses on my Benson, felt so good to punish smoke/HE spammer 

[Captain_Dilbert]

I believe my record in ranked this season is 7 wins and 4 losses...the strange thing is that I believe I have only lost 1 star because in my 4 losses I was the top XP earner 3 times.  However my 7 wins include a battle in my Amagi where I only did 19K damage and a win in my Fubuki where I only did 3.4k damage...so not only is there a huge RNG factor as to who is on your team but also in ranked which team gets the first kill and how the other team reacts to loosing a ship is significant.  

 

For instance, myself and another Fubuki (with some CA help I think) took out an enemy Benson (2 DDs per team) in the first 3 min of a battle at the A cap.  The enemy Fubuki did manage to secure the B cap but 3 of the enemy BBs and the enemy CA were all in retreat mode, which left an enemy Bismark to get slaughtered and it was mop up duty from that point forward.  Had the enemy team supported their Fubuki and Bismark push into the B cap it would have been a very different battle.

[HazardDrake]

Ranked battles has been trashed by WG since season 4. I'm treating it like a wrecked car; stripping it of anything of value and then leaving it. Training up 1 point captians to 10 point using my dragon flags is my current strategy.