switching from Khabarovsk to Gearing

[Captain_PP]

I had the Khabarovsk and ground over 180 games with the Udaloi to get her. I don't have premium so it took a lot of time. I saw this nerf to the ship. No chance of invisible firing. I have 7.9 detection and even with that and the increased artillery distance at 13.5 BACK to basic distance before the patch. Then to put salt onto the wounds you add the onto reload time for the artillery 4.4 seconds. I don't have the 10% buff but that will be the first thing I do when I get it. Torpedoes are the same and hardly compete with other dds. Unless you get the 6km mod for extra damage. What is going to stop players from just getting the gearing with a 2sec+ reload time, better torpedoes, and invisible firing? This happened when I also had the Kiev nerfed it so bad, and I really feel for the Udaloi drivers. They should just stop there and not waste their time to get this ship. instead focus on the American or Japanese lines. 

[Destroyer_HatsuzukiKai]

the khab still good

[NinjaExZ]

the khab still god

ftfy

[Battleship_DukeofYork]

Gearing is a good boat, but it's no Khab.

[FogInvader]

K

[Terrible_Turtle]

Two words:

 

1. Gun

 

2. Ballistics 

[Gabriel_LXIX]

My inclination is to say that if 13km gunboating is fine for Tashkent it's fine for khab, but I don't have khab and I don't face high tier CA lazors

[Captain_Dorja]

Yeah you'd better swap away from the really, really, really, really, really OP ship because it's getting made marginally less powerful. God forbid the ship isn't able to curb stomp everything with impunity. Better move on to something else which isn't as strong.

 

Good logic.

[Tsaron]

I have to agree with the OP. The khab is no longer a dd and not  something I would suggest to any of my friends to pursue. They should focus on a Gearing if they want a gunboat dd or just go with the Shim. I just respec'ed my Khab and the closest way to play it now is like a light Cruiser.

 

Detection was already horrid at 7.9 whereas Gearing and Shim 6km. It is a complete waste of time to go a concealment build on the Khab now. I now have  Steering Gears Mod 3 on mine respec'ed the Captain to AFT, SE. Detection is now 9.7km 13.5km range you have to try and stay 10+km away from anything so you can try to wiggle out of incoming fire. At least with the SGM3 you have a ruddershift of 3 sec, but it now plays like a CA not a dd. Way to go WG for completely neutering a good ship. 

 

If you want to play a Khab you better be used to playing a Kutuzov, otherwise don't both. Anything more screwed up on this ship and I may just have to sell it.

[TurboT]

For my playstyle I liked the Gearing better before.

 

Haven't tried the Khab yet today.

 

[FallenZulu]

I just did over 89k damage in the Khab last game. The Khab is still very much a fearsome DD that will burn and obliterate any opponent that starts disrespecting it.

[Tsaron]

For my playstyle I liked the Gearing better before.

 

Haven't tried the Khab yet today.

 

 

better watch out people will now start calling the Gearing OP because it can now Invis-a-fire... incoming nerf

[TenguBlade]

What's going to stop them from playing Gearing, you ask?

 

I don't know, maybe the 50mm of armor that renders the ship all but invincible to HE, the 43-knot top speed, or the shell arcs that are actually shell arcs and not satellites being shot just shy of low orbit?

better watch out people will now start calling the Gearing OP because it can now Invis-a-fire... incoming nerf

Gearing could always invisi-fire, that was and is the USN DDs' thing.

[Tsaron]

I just did over 89k damage in the Khab last game. The Khab is still very much a fearsome DD that will burn and obliterate any opponent that starts disrespecting it.

 

considering a Khab used to get 150-200k damage... I get that on all my other dd's and Tier 8 cruisers... 50-100k damage is pitiful against Tier 10's

[SandraSmiles]

 

I joined wows well after the nerf postings.  I explored the IJN destroyer line...and it merely represented a sneaky worthless playstyle.  I can drive a Minekaze blind folded and still bring home 80K in coop. Why...because all I do is run around spamming torps....the wall of skill as its referred to.

Kiev is probably my favorite boat after Atlanta.  If you're needing invisifire, I'd suggest you either lose your sneak mentality and re-invent your game or leave the game alone.  Super stealth tactics are leaving the game... and the VMF DD line is superb.  And Leningrad will continue the tradition of bringing fear and havoc to the arena.  While I dearly adore Kriev, I could tell it was just a matter of time before the programmers squashed her unique ability.  Which again illustrates how the programmers can't seem to get things right and keep things right.  I've never witnessed such a sham of programmers today...constantly back tracking back paddling because they lack the wisdom and focus to see the whole picture and stay true to their objectives.  Answering to an online customer base will only spell the end.  

Any job  is simple.  Create the program...issue a couple of patches and let it run its course then fold your tents.

I'm willing 

 

[WarEagle_97]

considering a Khab used to get 150-200k damage...

and that is why she was nerfed 

[Tsaron]

What's going to stop them from playing Gearing, you ask?

 

I don't know, maybe the 50mm of armor that renders the ship all but invincible to HE, the 43-knot top speed, or the shell arcs that are actually shell arcs and not satellites being shot just shy of low orbit?

Gearing could always invisi-fire, that was and is the USN DDs' thing.

 

So nerf the khab where it could always invis fire before too, now cut range by 2km. Sure cut the range but also cut the detection radius to balance it out. What is to stop them from eliminating that on the Gearing?

[FallenZulu]

 

considering a Khab used to get 150-200k damage... I get that on all my other dd's and Tier 8 cruisers... 50-100k damage is pitiful against Tier 10's

 

And that was why the Khab was OP to begin with, It literally countered every single class except CV's. Bear in mind I did not focus on dealing damage that game and went for the caps instead. Khab still wins against a Gearing in a gun fight engagement, only way a Gearing can win is if he hits him with a lucky torpedo salvo.

[Tsaron]

and that is why she was nerfed 

 

love how you left out the part I would get that damage on my other Tier 10 dd's... guess they should nerf every dd

[FallenZulu]

 

love how you left out the part I would get that damage on my other Tier 10 dd's... guess they should nerf every dd

 

Funny you say that because from your stats you literally have no tier 10 DD with even over 40k damage. Not wanting to stat shame here but clearly you are over exaggerating.

[TurboT]

 

And that was why the Khab was OP to begin with, It literally countered every single class except CV's. Bear in mind I did not focus on dealing damage that game and went for the caps instead. Khab still wins against a Gearing in a gun fight engagement, only way a Gearing can win is if he hits him with a lucky torpedo salvo.

 

I just played the Khab and got hit by a lucky torpedo salvo.. lol.. 

 

I had 452 HP left and then completely wrecked a 3/4 health Shim dead and he never killed me.   It still can do what it did before just from a little closer...   I think I am the unluckiest Khab driver ever though, since I'm good for driving into bloomin torps in that thing...

 

[FallenZulu]

 

I just played the Khab and got hit by a lucky torpedo salvo.. lol.. 

 

I had 452 HP left and then completely wrecked a 3/4 health Shim dead and he never killed me.   It still can do what it did before just from a little closer...   I think I am the unluckiest Khab driver ever though, since I'm good for driving into bloomin torps in that thing...

 

 

Lol yeah I sometimes get hit by those pesky torps. My friend was nearly dead when a full health gearing closed in around 10k on him. My friend brought him down below half health before dying, not from the Gearing but from a enemy BB. Gearing had no chance of surviving otherwise.

[Umikami]

I joined wows well after the nerf postings.  I explored the IJN destroyer line...and it merely represented a sneaky worthless playstyle.  I can drive a Minekaze blind folded and still bring home 80K in coop. Why...because all I do is run around spamming torps....the wall of skill as its referred to.

Kiev is probably my favorite boat after Atlanta.  If you're needing invisifire, I'd suggest you either lose your sneak mentality and re-invent your game or leave the game alone.  Super stealth tactics are leaving the game... and the VMF DD line is superb.  And Leningrad will continue the tradition of bringing fear and havoc to the arena.  While I dearly adore Kriev, I could tell it was just a matter of time before the programmers squashed her unique ability.  Which again illustrates how the programmers can't seem to get things right and keep things right.  I've never witnessed such a sham of programmers today...constantly back tracking back paddling because they lack the wisdom and focus to see the whole picture and stay true to their objectives.  Answering to an online customer base will only spell the end.

Any job  is simple.  Create the program...issue a couple of patches and let it run its course then fold your tents.

I'm willing

 

Wow, I thought my rants were salty ...

Gotta say I love that comment "sneaky worthless playstyle", followed by that incredibly bold statement about "I can drive a Minekaze and still bring home 80K in coop"  "because all I do is run around spamming torps".

Well, where to begin;

Please do share with me all the DD tricks you have learned playing co-op at tier 5.

I am TOTALLY impressed with the credentials you've offered as the basis for your in-depth of knowledge concerning how the game works, especially your in-depth knowledge of how to succeed.

You state your favorite boat

(PS, it's a ship; a boat is what the guy who stole your girl takes her to the lake to ride around in her bikini in)

is an Atlanta, and in the next sentence you start ranting again about how people need to lose their "sneak mentality" because "stealth tactics" are leaving the game.

Yet your favorite ship is one of the few with a smoke screen, has radar to specifically combat DD's with stealth, and spams many more 3" shells than any Mini ever spammed torps.

In other words, your actions contradict your rant, er ... , words.

Now, there are some things we do agree on;

the Russian line has some VERY good ships in it (I loved both Kiev and Tash, endured Udaloi, love Khab)

Leningrad DOES look like it could be a match carrier at tier 7, and battles between her and Kiev should be ... challenging.

But then you go off and start ranting about programmers ...

(I'm pretty sure they are much more organized than your rubber ball logic in describing their shortcomings)

And any business has to cater to it's online customer base or it will soon be a failure.

And I'd be willing to bet no one at WoW has either folded a tent, nor has any plans to, in the near future.

(and that foaming at the mouth thing is kinda scary)

 

 

[aAkula]

If you care about being detected in a Khab, the you're not playing the Khab correctly.

 

Even with the range nerf ill still average 130k Damage games in that ship.

[atPrick__]

pretty soon everyone is going to just get the Gearing...