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The_GoDDfather    1,587

Tier 7 Gremy in the making imo. If you have a Gremy, your captain will love this ship.

Dedicated Gremy captain:

Lvl 1: BFT

Lvl 2: LS, EM

Lvl 3: VG

Lvl 4: AFT

Lvl 5: CE

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Lert    16,237

This this isn't OP unless you have an experience captain? :yes_cap:

 

No, it's not OP because it has horrible gun arcs, horrible gun handling and a very long torpedo reload time.

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The_GoDDfather    1,587

This this isn't OP unless you have an experience captain? :yes_cap:

 

Like the Blys, to a degree, yes.

However, I'd argue this Blys is perfectly balanced, as it takes forever to get a 15pt captain on the Blys. (Looks at my stats; "What a no-life")

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Lert    16,237

Like the Blys, to a degree, yes.

 

Uh, no. Blyskawica has excellent gun arcs and handling compared to Leningrad.

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IceSerpen7    762

 

No, it's not OP because it has horrible gun arcs, horrible gun handling and a very long torpedo reload time.

 

IMHO it kind of depends on how easy it is to hit (and damage) when spotted - could end up being a mini-Khaba. :yes_cap:
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Stratego89    494

Up until this ship I had never once even remotely desired a premium ship in this game (other than atago but idk whether to call it a desire for obtainment or just an appreciation for a fine ship on that one honestly- but I digress). This thing... i saw it ONCE in game, and wanted it. It moves at like mach 10. My thing in games has always been speed. I'll almost always with very rare exception prefer whatever moves fast over whatever hits hard. I'll seriously never forget the absolute punishment this ship gave me for becoming complacent because I'd memorized the stats of most ships in the game to a reasonable extent and forgot to check the roster that round.

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The_GoDDfather    1,587

 

Uh, no. Blyskawica has excellent gun arcs and handling compared to Leningrad.

 

It's very competitive with a 15pt captain, just like the Blys. I'd also say it's close-minded to think that firing arcs and traverse speed dictate the ships competitiveness.

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Lert    16,237

It's very competitive with a 15pt captain, just like the Blys. I'd also say it's close-minded to think that firing arcs and traverse speed dictate the ships competitiveness.

 

Please point out where I ever claimed it wasn't competitive. Also, no need for personal attacks. Finally, arcs and handling does affect a ship's competitiveness, the more time you spend struggling with your own weapons the less time you spend damaging the enemy. Leningrad's strengths are in its speed, flexibility and decent torpedoes, not in its gunnery.

 

these reviews need to be shorter

 

Ok, here's a review specifically written for you:

 

It's good.

 

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DoomStomper    1,446

As always, thanks for the excellent review.

 

Those numbers look awfully tempting, even for someone like myself who doesn't play destroyers that often.  Then again, since I already own a Gremy and Blysk, it would probably be better to save my money this time around.

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Kapitan_Wuff    1,231

these reviews need to be shorter

 

Seriously? Comprehensive and thorough are things you don't like in a review? Skimming to the clear and simple summery isn't a strong point of yours?  Great review again Mouse, great example of it being impossible to make everyone happy lol. Might pass on this ship myself.
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The_GoDDfather    1,587

 

Please point out where I ever claimed it wasn't competitive. Also, no need for personal attacks. Finally, arcs and handling does affect a ship's competitiveness, the more time you spend struggling with your own weapons the less time you spend damaging the enemy. Leningrad's strengths are in its speed, flexibility and decent torpedoes, not in its gunnery.

 

 

Ok, here's a review specifically written for you:

 

It's good.

 

 

I must apologize, as the "closed-minded" comment was not meant to be a personal attack. The way you put it, it seemed that you weren't looking at the full potential the ship could have.

 

Now, I'll explain myself, but it will take awhile to due to my lack mobile typing skills.

   I was saying it's very competitive, not just competitive; and I'm not saying you didn't say it wasn't competitive. What I'm saying, is that it seems to be in the grey area between normal competitiveness and over-powered.

   I also agree with the fact that struggling with your own armament is a hindrance, however, I also say there are ways to overcome those struggles. Much like the Gremyashchy, it has bad firing arcs and slow turrets. You can overcome these by locking the guns and wiggling the ship between reloads. It's a dangerous maneuver, (since if not performed well, will lose you the engagement) but it's much better than sailing straight. I know the Leningrad could perform this maneuver easily, especially with the rudder shift module. This allows you to use your guns while simultaneously lessening the impact of the poor turret traverse. You can also overcome this on the Leningrad by utilizing AFT and CE. If you are not spotted while firing, you can sail a straight line at 12.5km and keep the guns on target. (Especially with EM.) This goes for the Gremyashchy as well.

   The ability to stealth-torp is invaluable, it can greatly increase you ability to dish out damage while not being able to be fired upon. I doubt I have to explain how valuable this is to you. Not to mention CE assisted stealth torping.

   The great speed will allow you to get to caps, and, using the method above, win most engagements. Especially with BFT, EM, & CE.

 

Really, overall, I find this a very competitive ship, with the potential to be OP when equipped with a 15pt captain.

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SgtMajorBuzz    26

 

Like the Blys, to a degree, yes.

However, I'd argue this Blys is perfectly balanced, as it takes forever to get a 15pt captain on the Blys. (Looks at my stats; "What a no-life")

 

243? Your just getting yer Blysk good and broke in :)
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JojoTheMongol    155

 

No, it's not OP because it has horrible gun arcs, horrible gun handling and a very long torpedo reload time.

 

 

WG really might have learned its lesson.

 

 

 

 

So it can go as fast as the Marbleheads torps? :teethhappy:

 

 

(Srsly, buff the Marbleheads torps.)

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atPrick__    3,493

Nice review as always Mouse.

 

Something something Soviet torpedo boat, insanely fast, great detection grumble grumble IJN Torpedo boat nerf grumble frown. 

 

Grumble, frown, QQ Soviet Bias.

 

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Fedge_123    307

Very nice review as always! +1

Am I the only one who feels that Tier VII is overloaded with premium ships?  I can barely play the ones I have now.  Be nice to get a few 6's and 8's for a change.

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Lert    16,237

 

I must apologize, as the "closed-minded" comment was not meant to be a personal attack. 

 

Now, I'll explain myself, but it will take awhile to due to my lack mobile typing skills.

   I was saying it's very competitive, not just competitive; and I'm not saying you didn't say it wasn't competitive. What I'm saying, is that it seems to be in the grey area between normal competitiveness and over-powered.

   I also agree with the fact that struggling with your own armament is a hindrance, however, I also say there are ways to overcome those struggles. Much like the Gremyashchy, it has bad firing arcs and slow turrets. You can overcome these by locking the guns and wiggling the ship between reloads. It's a dangerous maneuver, (since if not performed well, will lose you the engagement) but it's much better than sailing straight. I know the Leningrad could perform this maneuver easily, especially with the rudder shift module. This allows you to use your guns while simultaneously lessening the impact of the poor turret traverse. You can also overcome this on the Leningrad by utilizing AFT and CE. If you are not spotted while firing, you can sail a straight line at 12.5km and keep the guns on target. (Especially with EM.) This goes for the Gremyashchy as well.

   The ability to stealth-torp is invaluable, it can greatly increase you ability to dish out damage while not being able to be fired upon. I doubt I have to explain how valuable this is to you. Not to mention CE assisted stealth torping.

   The great speed will allow you to get to caps, and, using the method above, win most engagements. Especially with BFT, EM, & CE.

 

Really, overall, I find this a very competitive ship, with the potential to be OP when equipped with a 15pt captain.

 

Fair enough, good points in there. You're also a better tin can captain than I am, so would probably better know how to make a ship like Leningrad dance.

 

Apology accepted, I'll just chalk it up to a misscommunication and phrasing misinterpreted.

 

Your tips on how to make it work are good tips. From having played / tested Leningrad though, I would still reach for Blyskawica rather than it, for general play. Maybe competitive play the additional speed would be invaluable.

 

You're right about the stealth torp capability. Honestly though, Blyskawica's torps aren't that much worse than Leningrad's, same range but slower speed, but they reload a lot quicker.

 

All in all it's a very good ship, definitely competitive, less than 'comfortable' to drive. OP? I don't think so. Maybe time will tell me wrong, and I am a BB main not a DD main, but I would still prefer Blyskawica over Leningrad.

 

Am I the only one who feels that Tier VII is overloaded with premium ships? 

 

And most of them American.

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Taichunger    2,058

Excellent review. +1

 

Downside of Leningrad: I love my Blys!!! How can I betray her with an enemy destroyer?

I think I might have to have Leningrad on the side...

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