RN CAs designs in the game.

[Sinboto]

With the new RNCLs under testing I've been wondering about the CAs of the RN, specifically the higher tiers. 

 

Anyone who knows a bit about the royal navy in WW2 knows that the RN focused heavily on light cruisers for multiple reasons, leaving somewhat outdated heavy cruisers in the armada. This being known I know that the higher tier ships will be design ships, much like many other cruiser lines. 

 

Question is, what designs . The RN had a few very interesting cruiser designs, some like the T9 CL Neptune were even laid down for construction. 

 

Perhaps the twelve 9.2 inch gun heavy cruiser design. The 1941 design with 16 secondary guns? So many possibilities.  

 

I always wanted to see the 20 inch gun battlecruiser HMS incomparable in action, though it will never happen because no guns over yamato's will be put into the game.  

[Herr_Reitz]

With the new RNCLs under testing I've been wondering about the CAs of the RN, specifically the higher tiers. 

 

Anyone who knows a bit about the royal navy in WW2 knows that the RN focused heavily on light cruisers for multiple reasons, leaving somewhat outdated heavy cruisers in the armada. This being known I know that the higher tier ships will be design ships, much like many other cruiser lines. 

 

Question is, what designs . The RN had a few very interesting cruiser designs, some like the T9 CL Neptune were even laid down for construction. 

 

Perhaps the twelve 9.2 inch gun heavy cruiser design. The 1941 design with 16 secondary guns? So many possibilities.  

 

I always wanted to see the 20 inch gun battlecruiser HMS incomparable in action, though it will never happen because no guns over yamato's will be put into the game.  

 

Not being the total naval nerd you seem to be :-) it's funny you mention the 20" guns... I was looking yesterday for the basis of the IJN T9 BB we have in-game. This led me to Yamato designs... and some numerical ship designs which the IJN had for constructing a super battleship with - 20" guns. The author(s) (wiki no less :-) ) said the BB would have been the most powerful ship in the world. 

 

So if the RN was planning 20" for a battle cruiser, does anyone have any idea of even larger rounds planned for future use? 

[USNA_76]

I have been saving my credits and xp to buy RN and commonwealth ships, but the designs currently planned have me a bit concerned with their durability and gun performance. Already have Warspite and I plan to purchase HMAS Perth, as soon as she becomes available. 

[Ace_04]

I have been saving my credits and xp to buy RN and commonwealth ships, but the designs currently planned have me a bit concerned with their durability and gun performance. Already have Warspite and I plan to purchase HMAS Perth, as soon as she becomes available. 

 

I'm honestly wondering how these light "AP only" cruisers are going to be able to roll decent damage numbers on angled targets, especially without the ability to cause fires and get the related damage saturation.

[El_Judarino]

 

I'm honestly wondering how these light "AP only" cruisers are going to be able to roll decent damage numbers on angled targets, especially without the ability to cause fires and get the related damage saturation.

 

When I was paying attention to the leaks, the Brit AP was supposed to get very favorable auto-bounce angles (kinda like how the USN CAs get presently, only even better) meaning they'd suffer many fewer bounces on account of angling and would merely have to find parts on the enemy ship with sufficiently weak armor that the 6" shell could pen (which is actually a fair bit of space on most ships if auto-bouncing isn't a problem)

 

As for dealing with damage saturation. Overpens already do  damage in spite of damage saturation (which is why AP still works on DDs even if they get to that "immune to torpedoes" point of saturated). While the 6" AP isn't likely to be overpenning all the things, it is mys understanding that the standard (33%) pen is made of two damage numbers actually, one for the penetration and one for the detonation of the warhead. I'm pretty sure the half of the damage that comes from penetration continues to do damage in spite of a section having reached damage saturation.

 

All that said, it's clear we're still quite some ways off from WG having solved the riddle of British cruisers. 

[Sinboto]

 

Not being the total naval nerd you seem to be :-) it's funny you mention the 20" guns... I was looking yesterday for the basis of the IJN T9 BB we have in-game. This led me to Yamato designs... and some numerical ship designs which the IJN had for constructing a super battleship with - 20" guns. The author(s) (wiki no less :-) ) said the BB would have been the most powerful ship in the world. 

 

So if the RN was planning 20" for a battle cruiser, does anyone have any idea of even larger rounds planned for future use? 

 

H-44 apparently was designed with 21 inch guns in mind. 

[StoneRhino]

I'm liking what I am hearing about the new direction the RN. It sounds like they are going to give them "Matilda" style guns. Fast firing low alpha riles. Which deal 1/2 damage on over pens vs 1/6. It will make them DD eating machines. Potentially with lower detectably they could be a threat to larger ships as well.

[mofton]

With the new RNCLs under testing I've been wondering about the CAs of the RN, specifically the higher tiers. 

 

Anyone who knows a bit about the royal navy in WW2 knows that the RN focused heavily on light cruisers for multiple reasons, leaving somewhat outdated heavy cruisers in the armada. This being known I know that the higher tier ships will be design ships, much like many other cruiser lines. 

 

Question is, what designs . The RN had a few very interesting cruiser designs, some like the T9 CL Neptune were even laid down for construction. 

 

Perhaps the twelve 9.2 inch gun heavy cruiser design. The 1941 design with 16 secondary guns? So many possibilities.  

 

I always wanted to see the 20 inch gun battlecruiser HMS incomparable in action, though it will never happen because no guns over yamato's will be put into the game.  

 

Well Mr. Trainspite did an ADLA on HMS Surrey as a T8, but only an incremental improvement over the County class. Although well armored, not sure if she's that interesting: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/56110-a-detailed-look-at-surrey-design-y/

 

Otherwise I've seen mention of 1.5k desgins, 9.2in designs and 12x8in designs, Trainspite lists a few on his British tree. Not many readily available details. I've heard of an Admiral class of CA, and there's an image here: http://www.shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Never%20Built%20Designs/Great%20Britain/CA_Admiral-Class_as_designed_1940.png maybe like a British Baltimore.

[sharlin648]

If the RN CA's were in the game i'd do it like this

 

Tier 5 - Hawkins class - 7.5 inch guns in single open shield mounts, thin hull armour, high speed, she's basically a Furrytaco.  
Tier 6 - York with the final hull being the Exeter - 6 x 8 inch guns like an Aoba but far smaller.

Tier 7 - County with the final hull being the London sub type - 8 x 8 inch guns, torpedoes, decent health pool, weak armour until you get to the final hull type.

Tier 8 - Surrey Class - 9 x 8 inch guns.
Tier 9 - ???? Some admiralty design you could find with 9 or 12 x 8 inch guns, probably 9 but with better handling etc more torps, better AA etc etc.
Tier 10 - Churchill 'Super Cruiser' a mini-battlecruiser with 9 x 9.2 inch guns, basically like the Moskva.