Viable Tier 9 Ships for Unpopular Tie Ten Lines?

[Sink_Stuff]

One great thing about WOT is that even if a line has a crappy tier ten, it often has a desirable tier nine in the line.

 

In this game though, it seems like all the tier 9'seven are not as well liked over the 8 or 10 except perhaps the Fletcher class. Why are so many tier nines not worth it in this game?

 

I think wargamings should at least do what WOT does and make tier 9's decent for tier tens that are under performing.

[Gabriel_LXIX]

Tier IX here like in WoT suffers because of Crew

 

That great 18pt Cpt is movingbup to your tX. Tier VIII and VI are where most of the team/ranked/competitive play happens so they demand Cpts as well . And who wants to start a new Cpt playing vs tier IXs and Xs

[Fog_Heavy_Cruiser_Takao]

My fav tier 9's: Iowa, Frederick, Taihou, and Roon

[Grizley]

Udaloi is great fun.  If you like CL gameplay.

 

Do the premium camos allow you to swap captains like premium ships?  Guessing no, but that would make them pretty attractive.

 

Still it doesn't take long to get a captain to competent levels, you can get a 10 point captain in no time and then you're just missing a second 4 point skill or a 5 point skill.  You'll miss it, but it doesn't make or break the ship in most cases.

[Nuk_]

Iowa isn't good?

Roon isn't good?

Udaloi isn't good?

Fredrich isn't good? 

Dmitri Donskoi isn't good?

[StableGenius]

Iowa is great ;)

I unlocked the Montana but I don't buy her. I love my Iowa to much.

[Arbinshire]

Iowa isn't good?

Roon isn't good?

Udaloi isn't good?

Fredrich isn't good? 

Dmitri Donskoi isn't good?

 

Dmitri isn't good at all.

[Cobraclutch]

Fletcher is better then the benson.

 

Udaloi is better then the tash

 

Iowa is better then the NC

 

Yamato is better then izumo

 

Roon is prob better tier for tier then the hindenburg.

 

Zao is better then Ibuki

 

DM is miles ahead of the baltimore. 

 

Shim is better then kagero. 

 

Moskva and DD are about equal for their tiers. 

[Arbinshire]

Iowa is great ;)

I unlocked the Montana but I don't buy her. I love my Iowa to much.

 

Smart choice. They almost buffed the Montana but didn't.

[BarbedWireRat]

I'm starting to play my Iowa quite a bit now.  Bought premium camo for it.  Repair costs are far more tolerable than Montana.  So I think it is great for getting into T10 battles to learn the skills needed to be effective at this level of play so I don't suck so hard when I do play Montana.  I also plan on doing the same with Fletcher/Gearing once I get those ships.  However, I niether play Izumo nor Baltimore now that I have Yamato and Des Moines.

[Cobraclutch]

 

Dmitri isn't good at all.

 

Considering its the top performing tier 9 CA on every server.  . Find this hard to believe. 

[StableGenius]

 

Smart choice. They almost buffed the Montana but didn't.

 

Yeah, Iowa was my first tier 9. I already have a 17 skill point admiral on it. I wrecked to many Montana's in my Iowa so my choice was simple :p

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Some good Tier IX's out of the 11 possible Tier IX's:

 

Iowa

Roon

Udaloi

Taiho

Baltimore

LOL just kidding! 

Fletcher

FDG / "Big Fred" - It's an Iowa that doesn't have a glass jaw.

Dmitri Donskoi - Only the best performing Tier IX Cruiser.

 

I'm half tempted to throw Izumo in there because despite the dislike of her, she is performing on Iowa's levels.

 

Of the 11 possible Tier IX's, 7 are good ships.

[Grizley]

 

Considering its the top performing tier 9 CA on every server.  . Find this hard to believe. 

 

Which means it's better than the other T9 CA.

 

Says nothing about how good it is compared to a BB, DD or CV.

[Fedge_123]

I like the FDG.  I'm not very good in it, but I like it.

[HazeGrayUnderway]

 

Which means it's better than the other T9 CA.

 

Says nothing about how good it is compared to a BB, DD or CV.

 

Let us know when you're able to pull specific stats for a ship against other specific ships.

[WarEagle_97]

 

I'm half tempted to throw Izumo in there because despite the dislike of her, she is performing on Iowa's levels.

 

  In retrospect, I did enjoy the izumo. She is a pretty good ship, just awkward to play and requires a totally different style of play from the Amagi, and I fear most people don't take to change very kindly. She can be temperamental but her fast (for a bb) turrets allow for the use of the reload modual, so her DPM is better than the Yammy while at the same time having turrets that don't take an ice age to turn 

[Raigir]

I just don't see what others see in the Iowa. She's spectacularly longer than the NC, has a larger and high above the water citadel than the NC, and has the worst turn circle in the game. All for a faster speed and better pen on her guns. Just screams glass cannon to me. Would rather be in an NC.

 

Roon - not bad but terrible gun layout that is ineffective at chasing and bad at dealing with DDs

Dimitri - average? just nothing special at all

Ibuki - A better Mogami a tier higher but with the range and repair to actually be decent.

Baltimore - Trash tier cruiser

Fletcher - God tier destroyer

Udaloi - God tier destroyer because Russia

Kagero - worse than fubuki, worse than Shima, just why?!

Izumo - just bad, and poor layout

Fred - ok? rather bog standard really

Iowa - faster, clumsier, more fragile NC, then again Montana is not that much better

 

I'm seeing a trend with DD's with exception to torpedo focused, cuse torpedo soup is bad m'kay?

[Nuk_]

 

Dmitri isn't good at all.

 

Her stats beg to differ.

[Crucis]

Tier IX here like in WoT suffers because of Crew

 

That great 18pt Cpt is movingbup to your tX. Tier VIII and VI are where most of the team/ranked/competitive play happens so they demand Cpts as well . And who wants to start a new Cpt playing vs tier IXs and Xs

 

 

I hear what you're saying, but I'd say that this is one reason why premium ships are so darned useful for Ranked Battles.  You aren't stuck between choosing whether to move a captain up to a new ship or keep him for a ship you save for Ranked battles.  Just move your captain up as you see fit, then move them back into your tier 6 or 8 premium for Ranked and you're good to go.

 

Of course, there's the other option of using doubloons to pay to change the captain's specialization, but at 500 gold a pop (1000g if you want to return the captain back to his original ship), it's a little pricey if you want to do this for multiple ships.

 

 

[TTK_Aegis]

I only have one tier 9, and I can safely say it, Izumo, is not a very good one. 

[Zhoyzu]

i prefer Balt over ibuki tbh. And from the PTS im in love with the roon

[Crucis]

I only have one tier 9, and I can safely say it, Izumo, is not a very good one. 

 

 

Honestly, I don't mind the Izumo.  Oh, I wish that it had a more traditional turret layout, like the Iowa's, but overall, I don't think that it's horrible.

 

 

[Macabe]

 

Dmitri isn't good at all.

 

Not fun? Maybe. Not good? Lolwut. It's statistically the best CL in the game.

[Crucis]

i prefer Balt over ibuki tbh. And from the PTS im in love with the roon

 

I've played the Ibuki, Roon, and Baltimore.  (Got a ways to go before I can get the tier 9 in the VMF line.)  I probably liked the Ibuki the best (now have the Zao).  I'm still on the Roon and Baltimore. 

 

I kind of have a love/hate relationship with the Baltimore.  I want to love her.  Her guns hit really hard when you use AP and can beat the snot out of cruisers and put a good hurting on BB's as well (as long as you can avoid being the BB's primary target).  OTOH, without torpedoes, it lacks that really good short range alpha strike that other nations' tier 9 CA's have.

 

As for the Roon, it's a great sniper, but IMO, not very good for hunting DD's because of its turret layout.  Having a 1 forward, 2 aft layout makes for a good sniper, but you lack having enough guns up front so that you don't have to open up your broadside too much which can make your ship an easy target for torps.  It's so much easier to try to chase DD's when you have 2 good turrets up front, like the Baltimore does.