10 scotty_geturown Members 45 posts 18,602 battles Report post #1 Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) I think we are being treated like mushrooms, no info at all about the changes to the IJN dd- line, Compensation for nerfs to ships Captains on ships. Camo Captains skills Some of these might require dublooms to change things about . If you have the Shima does that mean all new ships are researched at least ? Hopefully WG will tell us something soon . Edited September 26, 2016 by scotty00 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78 manavdharma Beta Testers 973 posts 2,500 battles Report post #2 Posted September 26, 2016 Huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,663 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,247 posts 43,785 battles Report post #3 Posted September 26, 2016 Come on, Scotty! A little more context please. What ship type are you talking about? DD's, perhaps? (Since you do mention the Shimmy, and the DD line has an upcoming split, etc.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
104 yamatotamura Beta Testers 653 posts 13,839 battles Report post #4 Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) Huh? He's talking about the new IJN DD nerfs which will change the IJN DD completely Edited September 26, 2016 by yamatotamura 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 scotty_geturown Members 45 posts 18,602 battles Report post #5 Posted September 26, 2016 Come on, Scotty! A little more context please. What ship type are you talking about? DD's, perhaps? (Since you do mention the Shimmy, and the DD line has an upcoming split, etc.) sorted , Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,150 battles Report post #6 Posted September 26, 2016 Think this topic was discussed in full lenght in a few posts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78 manavdharma Beta Testers 973 posts 2,500 battles Report post #7 Posted September 26, 2016 He's talking about the new IJN DD nerfs which will change the IJN DD completely Ah, gotcha. Thanks for explaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
326 Captain_Dilbert Members 1,494 posts 12,756 battles Report post #8 Posted September 26, 2016 Come on, Scotty! A little more context please. What ship type are you talking about? DD's, perhaps? (Since you do mention the Shimmy, and the DD line has an upcoming split, etc.) Seriously, have you no idea about the complete re-work of the IJN DD line and the split with a new Tier 5 -8 IJN DD sub-line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
326 Captain_Dilbert Members 1,494 posts 12,756 battles Report post #9 Posted September 26, 2016 I think we are being treated like mushrooms, no info at all about the changes to the IJN dd- line, Compensation for nerfs to ships Captains on ships. Camo Captains skills Some of these might require dublooms to change things about . If you have the Shima does that mean all new ships are researched at least ? Hopefully WG will tell us something soon . All good questions and it's a bit disappointing that WG has not provided any additional specifics thus far, meanwhile players are trying to grind through the IJN DD tech tree and don't have good information to make decisions about what will happen. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,481 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,858 posts 27,301 battles Report post #10 Posted September 26, 2016 Be patient. Information will be made available before the change happens. If earlier tier reworks made by WG are any indication: - Any tiers that you unlocked will remain unlocked - Any ships purchased will remain purchased - Any owned ships downtiered will remain in your port in their downtiered form, and you'll get a free port slot with the replacement ship in it - Any trained crew will remain at the tier they are - XP will remain at the tier it was earned at - You're not going to lose progress I don't know what will happen with camo. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,663 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,247 posts 43,785 battles Report post #11 Posted September 26, 2016 Come on, Scotty! A little more context please. What ship type are you talking about? DD's, perhaps? (Since you do mention the Shimmy, and the DD line has an upcoming split, etc.) Seriously, have you no idea about the complete re-work of the IJN DD line and the split with a new Tier 5 -8 IJN DD sub-line? Of course I do. But that's no excuse for writing a post without any context and assuming that everyone knows about the IJN DD line rework. It's always better to be a little more terse and provide the necessary context than to make unwarranted assumptions, particularly when the necessary context required all of 2 little letters, D and D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
51 Tordenskiold Members 177 posts 1,304 battles Report post #12 Posted September 26, 2016 It would be nice if we got to reskill our captains as well. Right now i have torpedo acceleration on my mutsiki. When the changes happen, I might want to rethink that skill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 scotty_geturown Members 45 posts 18,602 battles Report post #13 Posted September 26, 2016 Of course I do. But that's no excuse for writing a post without any context and assuming that everyone knows about the IJN DD line rework. It's always better to be a little more terse and provide the necessary context than to make unwarranted assumptions, particularly when the necessary context required all of 2 little letters, D and D. Alright so i missed them , shoot me , lmbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 [TIRP] Silvercoins [TIRP] Members 223 posts 34,631 battles Report post #14 Posted September 26, 2016 Be patient. Information will be made available before the change happens. If earlier tier reworks made by WG are any indication: - Any tiers that you unlocked will remain unlocked - Any ships purchased will remain purchased - Any owned ships downtiered will remain in your port in their downtiered form, and you'll get a free port slot with the replacement ship in it - Any trained crew will remain at the tier they are - XP will remain at the tier it was earned at - You're not going to lose progress I don't know what will happen with camo. This is the reply I received from WG support center ( name withheld )Thank you for contacting Wargaming Support. We can understand that you feel worried about the changes that are scheduled to hit your ship. With it being moved down two tiers, there are likely to be a lot of changes, and there is no guarantee that any performance it may have had may remain. To answer your question, upgrades retained when the changes are made refer to the modules you have researched for your ship. Case in point: if you have unlocked all of the modules of your ship prior to the change, you will have all of those same modules unlocked once the change to the tech tree goes live. However, please bear in mind that numbers may not remain the same as they will likely be tweaked so that play within the tier remains fair.; The premium camo will remain. Just keep your eyes open to new developments on the website for the mean time. The upcoming changes will probably take effect by next month or sooner. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13 ancientpistol Members 89 posts Report post #15 Posted September 26, 2016 Of course I do. But that's no excuse for writing a post without any context and assuming that everyone knows about the IJN DD line rework. It's always better to be a little more terse and provide the necessary context than to make unwarranted assumptions, particularly when the necessary context required all of 2 little letters, D and D. Now this is a thoughtfully cogent and terse defense of nitpicking! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 [TIRP] Silvercoins [TIRP] Members 223 posts 34,631 battles Report post #16 Posted September 26, 2016 I think we are being treated like mushrooms, no info at all about the changes to the IJN dd- line, Compensation for nerfs to ships Captains on ships. Camo Captains skills Some of these might require dublooms to change things about . If you have the Shima does that mean all new ships are researched at least ? Hopefully WG will tell us something soon . This is what I received from WG support center ( name withheld ) Thank you for contacting Wargaming Support. We can understand that you feel worried about the changes that are scheduled to hit your ship. With it being moved down two tiers, there are likely to be a lot of changes, and there is no guarantee that any performance it may have had may remain. To answer your question, upgrades retained when the changes are made refer to the modules you have researched for your ship. Case in point: if you have unlocked all of the modules of your ship prior to the change, you will have all of those same modules unlocked once the change to the tech tree goes live. However, please bear in mind that numbers may not remain the same as they will likely be tweaked so that play within the tier remains fair.; The premium camo will remain. Just keep your eyes open to new developments on the website for the mean time. The upcoming changes will probably take effect by next month or sooner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,663 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,247 posts 43,785 battles Report post #17 Posted September 26, 2016 Of course I do. But that's no excuse for writing a post without any context and assuming that everyone knows about the IJN DD line rework. It's always better to be a little more terse and provide the necessary context than to make unwarranted assumptions, particularly when the necessary context required all of 2 little letters, D and D. Now this is a thoughtfully cogent and terse defense of nitpicking! I'm so sick and tired of people who defend not taking responsibility for one's mistakes and harassing others for making note of them. The OP did, and he quickly fixed his little error, so good on him. But the rest of you, shame on you. Set a higher standard, and try to live up to it, rather than accepting lower standards and blaming others for seeking to be better and help others do it as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #18 Posted September 26, 2016 Be patient. Information will be made available before the change happens. If earlier tier reworks made by WG are any indication: - Any tiers that you unlocked will remain unlocked - Any ships purchased will remain purchased - Any owned ships downtiered will remain in your port in their downtiered form, and you'll get a free port slot with the replacement ship in it - Any trained crew will remain at the tier they are - XP will remain at the tier it was earned at - You're not going to lose progress I don't know what will happen with camo. wait.... So is that a way to get port slots? Say i have the entire line in my port, do the new ships come with free slots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,413 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,749 posts 7,317 battles Report post #19 Posted September 26, 2016 Be patient. Information will be made available before the change happens. If earlier tier reworks made by WG are any indication: - Any tiers that you unlocked will remain unlocked - Any ships purchased will remain purchased - Any owned ships downtiered will remain in your port in their downtiered form, and you'll get a free port slot with the replacement ship in it - Any trained crew will remain at the tier they are - XP will remain at the tier it was earned at - You're not going to lose progress I don't know what will happen with camo. What about the new tier 9 DD ship? Will it lead into the Shimakaze? Or will it just dead-end? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
760 [WOLF5] Patton5150 Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 3,084 posts 62,574 battles Report post #20 Posted September 26, 2016 I doubt there will be free slots/ships given. WoT did that in the beginning but they moved away from that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,343 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 17,053 posts 24,993 battles Report post #21 Posted September 26, 2016 wait.... So is that a way to get port slots? Say i have the entire line in my port, do the new ships come with free slots? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
28 [R-A-W] KrapMaster Beta Testers 285 posts Report post #22 Posted September 26, 2016 The way WG worded the changes makes me think that only the ships that change are the one you don't have to research again or buy at the tier they were moved to. No replacement or compensation for time and effort put in researching above. (I'm making an assumption here that upgraded doesn't mean researched.) "If you own and already upgraded any of the ships we're changing, you won't need to upgrade them again." There's no mention of adding ships at tiers we've already researched, bought and upgraded. I haven't researched or bought the Kagero yet just because of this reason. Why buy a tier 9 if it's going to drop a tier and I won't get compensated for the change? Not to mention my Fubuki dropping to tier 6 and whats going to replace it at tier 8? Something or nothing? This is the info I would like to know so I can plan what I am going to do. If there is no compensation for lost tiers and I don't get a tier 7 or 8 to replace the ones that got knocked down then I'm going to drop the IJN DD line and carry on with the RU line. It's a lot of time and effort wasted if this turns out like this. This is probably the worst scenario that could likely happen though I'm hoping it doesn't and WG cares for it's user base enough not to screw us over. So a little clarification would be nice. Will the Yugumo replace my Kagero if I buy it? Will the Kagero replace my Fubuki if I don't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35 Sir_Loin_01 Members 71 posts Report post #23 Posted September 26, 2016 R-E-L-A-X..... Your truly, Aaron Rodgers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 moosenugget Beta Testers 42 posts 4,988 battles Report post #24 Posted September 27, 2016 This is the reply I received from WG support center ( name withheld )Thank you for contacting Wargaming Support. We can understand that you feel worried about the changes that are scheduled to hit your ship. With it being moved down two tiers, there are likely to be a lot of changes, and there is no guarantee that any performance it may have had may remain. To answer your question, upgrades retained when the changes are made refer to the modules you have researched for your ship. Case in point: if you have unlocked all of the modules of your ship prior to the change, you will have all of those same modules unlocked once the change to the tech tree goes live. However, please bear in mind that numbers may not remain the same as they will likely be tweaked so that play within the tier remains fair.; The premium camo will remain. Just keep your eyes open to new developments on the website for the mean time. The upcoming changes will probably take effect by next month or sooner. You. You sir, are awesome for providing us the answer to OP's (and everyone else's) question. That, with a decent amount of detail from a somewhat reliable source. All without any sass or troll-bait. Upvote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,668 battles Report post #25 Posted September 27, 2016 He's talking about the new IJN DD nerfs which will change the IJN DD completely Oh please, tier for tier, the changes are a net buff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites