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Roma, named after two previous ships and the city of Rome,[N 1] was the fourth Vittorio Veneto-class battleship of Italy's Regia Marina (Royal Navy). The construction of both Roma and her sister ship Impero was planned due to rising tensions around the world and the navy's fear that two Vittorio Venetos and the older pre-First World War battleships were not enough to counter the British and French Mediterranean Fleets. As Roma was laid down almost four years after the first two ships of the class, some small improvements were made to the design, including additional freeboard added to the bow.

Roma was commissioned into the Regia Marina on 14 June 1942, but a severe fuel shortage in Italy at that time prevented her from being deployed; instead, along with her sister ships Vittorio Veneto and Littorio, she was used to bolster the anti-aircraft defenses of various Italian cities. In this role, she was severely damaged twice in June 1943 from bomber raids on La Spezia. After repairs in Genoa through all of July and part of August, Roma was deployed as the flagship of Admiral Carlo Bergamini in a large battle group that eventually comprised the three Vittorio Venetos, eight cruisers and eight destroyers. Their stated intent was attacking the Allied ships approaching Salerno to invade Italy (Operation "Avalanche") but, in reality, the Italian fleet was sailing to Malta to surrender following Italy's 8 September 1943 armistice with the Allies.

While the force was in the Strait of Bonifacio, Dornier Do 217s of the German Luftwaffe's specialist wing KG 100—armed with Fritz X radio-controlled bombs—sighted the force. The first attack failed, but the second dealt Italia (ex-Littorio) and Roma much damage. The hit on Roma caused water to flood two boiler rooms and the after engine room, leaving the ship to limp along with two propellers, reduced power, and arc-induced fires in the stern of the ship. Shortly thereafter, another bomb slammed into the ship which detonated within the forward engine room, causing catastrophic flooding and the explosion of the #2 main turret's magazines, throwing the turret itself into the sea. Sinking by the bow and listing to starboard, Roma capsized and broke in two, carrying 1,253 of 1,393 men—including Bergamini—down with her.

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I hope u enjoy this idea.

 

 


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Nice looking ship, lots of secondaries and 15" rifles =  It will be priced too rich for my blood.  


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Sure, lump it in with the Blyskawica as a vaguely Eurpoean line.

 

Italy can manage its own tree, thank you very much. 

 

What differences does Roma have to make it worth being a premium?


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Such a beautiful ship, I definitely want to see the Italian tech tree soon.


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Vittorio Veneto.

 

Seconded. Solid design, sexy ship, interesting and active history, cool name.

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Such a beautiful ship, I definitely want to see the Italian tech tree soon.

 

Agree - beautiful ship - the Italian ship line will be sleek, fast and good looking.

 

Thanks for sharing the video OP.


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Fun fact. Littorio/Italia survived an attack by two fritz x bombs. However I guess the fact she survived is why this is ignored.

 

The video in question.

 


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Italy can manage its own tree, thank you very much. 

 

What differences does Roma have to make it worth being a premium?

 

​unlike the other members of her class, she was the pride of the Italian navy, furthermore by knowing Wargaming her camo pattern, the red and white diagonal stripes on the bow forward decks and her name on the aft broadsides in massive gold lettering "ROMA"  and finally the secondary guns are a "great" sales pitch for a $64.99 bundle for a T8 Italian Battleship I can already see it... Edited by MotorheadEddie

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​unlike the other members of her class, she was the pride of the Italian navy, furthermore by knowing Wargaming her camo pattern, the red and white diagonal stripes on the bow forward decks and her name on the aft broadsides in massive gold lettering "ROMA"  and finally the secondary guns are a great sales pitch for a $64.99 bundle for a T8 Italian Battleship I can already see it...

 

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​unlike the other members of her class, she was the pride of the Italian navy, furthermore by knowing Wargaming her camo pattern, the red and white diagonal stripes on the bow forward decks and her name on the aft broadsides in massive gold lettering "ROMA"  and finally the secondary guns are a "great" sales pitch for a $64.99 bundle for a T8 Italian Battleship I can already see it...

 

Don't give WarGaming any ideas!

 

Also, the Litorrio-class of battleships would be rather slow in their rate of fire and have relatively poor accuracy (if WarGaming cares about historical accuracy anymore:hiding:).


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Don't give WarGaming any ideas!

 

Also, the Litorrio-class of battleships would be rather slow in their rate of fire and have relatively poor accuracy (if WarGaming cares about historical accuracy anymore:hiding:).

I don't have to give them ideas, I'm sure its already on a whiteboard somewhere in marketing. :look:


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Don't give WarGaming any ideas!

 

Also, the Litorrio-class of battleships would be rather slow in their rate of fire and have relatively poor accuracy (if WarGaming cares about historical accuracy anymore:hiding:).

 

By the time most of the technical problems had been teethed out the British only brought cruisers and destroyers to the party.

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The Roma is a ship I have always wanted in game. The Italians had super fast firing guns and since WG doesn't care about the wear and tear of barrels it should mean the Italian ships have great velocity on their AP shells. I'd love to see it in game.


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Roma would be lovely...

But personally, I third the vote for Vittorio Veneto.

 

She had quite the operational history... And the class will be glorious fun.

Good armor, good speed, beautiful lines, decent AA, and the most powerful 15in battery ever mounted, 3x3 15in guns in turrets that turn fast enough to make some cruisers jealous... And incredible range on this guns. They'll be quite accurate too, since WG doesn't take into account shell qualtiy.


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Roma would be lovely...

But personally, I third the vote for Vittorio Veneto.

 

She had quite the operational history... And the class will be glorious fun.

Good armor, good speed, beautiful lines, decent AA, and the most powerful 15in battery ever mounted, 3x3 15in guns in turrets that turn fast enough to make some cruisers jealous... And incredible range on this guns. They'll be quite accurate too, since WG doesn't take into account shell qualtiy.

 

Does the Frosty formula favor the French or Italian 15" rifle? Also I thought the Germans get a +1000 ap bonus so theirs will still remain the best for game purposes, no?

 

Thanks.

 

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The German AP +1000 bonus only applies to their cruisers... Some of their BBs have some AP buffs from what they 'should' have, but I don't have the info on them with me atm.

 

Bismarck's AP does 11600 damage, according to the forumla's it should be more along the lines of 11300.

 

However, that's still well behind the other 15in guns, going by the formula.

 

Richelieu's guns depend on the year. In her original setup, she's close on Littorio's heels, at 12000 damage per AP shell. After the drop in AP shell weight and muzzle velocity after '42/43, it drops to 11600, same as what Bismarck gets in-game.

 

Littorio is also year dependent. With her 850mps setup, she's getting 12100 for her AP shells. However, with her original 870mps, you're looking at 12200.

 

Either way, the 381mm/50 guns will be the most powerful 15in guns in the game, with the highest velocity and range as well.


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Roma would be lovely...

But personally, I third the vote for Vittorio Veneto.

 

She had quite the operational history... And the class will be glorious fun.

Good armor, good speed, beautiful lines, decent AA, and the most powerful 15in battery ever mounted, 3x3 15in guns in turrets that turn fast enough to make some cruisers jealous... And incredible range on this guns. They'll be quite accurate too, since WG doesn't take into account shell qualtiy.

 

Actually, the high-velocity guns of the Littorio-class' 15 inch guns would have relatively poor dispersion.

At least, that's what I heard.


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Actually, the high-velocity guns of the Littorio-class' 15 inch guns would have relatively poor dispersion.

At least, that's what I heard.

They did historically, but if the precedent of the Kirov and Molotov are anything to go off of, Littorio will be in a good place. 


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