715 Gomez_Adams Members 2,246 posts 2,602 battles Report post #1 Posted September 25, 2016 Well, I officially give up. I've never seen a ship or tank that it's simply not possible at all to win in until I got the Tirpitz. It is completely, totally, and in all ways impossible to win in it. They should take this thing back and give the friend that gifted it to me a complete refund with an apology. Paying over 50 bucks for this kind of complete [edited]is beyond the pale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
814 [SALTY] aAkula Members 1,291 posts 4,139 battles Report post #2 Posted September 25, 2016 You're just bad with it. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
766 [SPTR] khaenn35 Members 20,155 posts 6,159 battles Report post #3 Posted September 25, 2016 It'll get better. Besides, you've used it, so you can't get a refund. Check LWM's reviews to see how to play the ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,397 [USMC-] Lampshade_M1A2 Members 3,781 posts 11,700 battles Report post #4 Posted September 25, 2016 Get within torp range of other BBs and profit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #5 Posted September 25, 2016 You're kidding, right? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
627 Naughtius_Maximus Beta Testers 3,000 posts 4,522 battles Report post #6 Posted September 25, 2016 About as successful as my Independence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [B2P] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 44,054 battles Report post #7 Posted September 25, 2016 If you want your friend to have a refund SEND HIM THE MONEY. After 600 games in the thing, I have a 52% win rate, slightly above server average, and I played almost all those games solo. Maybe you should study some videos or division with someone who can play it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
114 Vinidoanker Members 938 posts 16,048 battles Report post #8 Posted September 25, 2016 happen when people skip line of ships ans suddenly use T8 premium ships.. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
715 Gomez_Adams Members 2,246 posts 2,602 battles Report post #9 Posted September 25, 2016 Does server wide average damage. (had above it until two games in a row detonation) Has above average torpedo hits. Is told to learn to play. Typical troll responses. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,890 [-K--] vak_ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,179 posts 10,923 battles Report post #10 Posted September 25, 2016 Well, I officially give up. I've never seen a ship or tank that it's simply not possible at all to win in until I got the Tirpitz. It is completely, totally, and in all ways impossible to win in it. They should take this thing back and give the friend that gifted it to me a complete refund with an apology. Paying over 50 bucks for this kind of complete [edited]is beyond the pale. Seems like your typical losing streak. Unlucky, but it's not the ship's fault. His average damage seems to be okay, so he's still making decent money. Just give it time -- the wins will come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 RektYoShip Members 139 posts 3,189 battles Report post #11 Posted September 25, 2016 Remember to shoot AP and not HE. It hurts my soul when I see a BB shoot HE. Typically chat gets toxic after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
715 Gomez_Adams Members 2,246 posts 2,602 battles Report post #12 Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) Last game in it: Yea. Clearly all my fault. As is this one: I wish idiots would just stop posting. Edited September 25, 2016 by Gomez_Adams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
136 [SOTW] Foxfire1337 Members 405 posts 5,227 battles Report post #13 Posted September 25, 2016 Does server wide average damage. (had above it until two games in a row detonation) Has above average torpedo hits. Is told to learn to play. Typical troll responses. You had a bad run in her. She didn't receive secondary normalization buffs which slightly nerfed her, but shes still an excellent ship. The awful kdr, winrate, survival rate, and WTR show that you are doing damage, but pretty much suiciding in the past few games to do so. It's not a troll to point out that there are a handful of vids out there showcasing where derpitz really shines. If you handwaive criticism and suggestions, that's on you. Expect to be berated for blaming a good ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 RektYoShip Members 139 posts 3,189 battles Report post #14 Posted September 25, 2016 Well you only have 8 battles in it. Basically you're a newbie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
715 Gomez_Adams Members 2,246 posts 2,602 battles Report post #15 Posted September 25, 2016 Well you only have 8 battles in it. Basically you're a newbie. When that's the tier and the actual battles is 12, you're reading skills need work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
236 iEaTDaGrudge Members 1,699 posts 9,033 battles Report post #16 Posted September 25, 2016 If you want your friend to have a refund SEND HIM THE MONEY. After 600 games in the thing, I have a 52% win rate, slightly above server average, and I played almost all those games solo. Maybe you should study some videos or division with someone who can play it. or he can send it to me? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 RektYoShip Members 139 posts 3,189 battles Report post #17 Posted September 25, 2016 When that's the tier and the actual battles is 12, you're reading skills need work. Didn't care enough about your misfortune to look. Keep playing the way you are, you're top notch. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
583 QuantumEntropy Beta Testers 4,007 posts 14,539 battles Report post #18 Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) My Tirpitz works but seems like Bismarck works way better I suggest to train your tirpitz for a few games in coop Also if you have a premium ship dont expect a insta win because it's not pay 2 win , improve then expect wins If you lose at a constant rate it's you , if you lose random it's the teams I had games like 1 day with 10% winrate but the rest of the stats ware way above avrage , that means it's a random lose streak If you lose constant and have 10% after 1 week , that's just you and you need to improve At that tier you get punished really fast for any mistakes even if you have 1-2 good games , you need to be constant or you get murdered I have some Tirpitz videos on my youtube , same name as here If you want to check them Edited September 25, 2016 by PrinzMakaay 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
238 [DOW] Infeedel Beta Testers 1,317 posts 18,923 battles Report post #19 Posted September 25, 2016 Happens... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
70 [RESIN] ACEpickles Beta Testers 321 posts 23,582 battles Report post #20 Posted September 25, 2016 Your sample size is way too small.... Try 50 games, then decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,890 [-K--] vak_ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,179 posts 10,923 battles Report post #21 Posted September 25, 2016 Clearly all my fault Nobody says it's your fault. When you have very few games, you might end up with a losing streak. Here are my current Konig Albert stats: My average damage is 58k (server average is 38k), yet I lost most of the games. But given the small number of games that's not important -- I know that if I play long enough, the win rate will go up. Losing streaks don't last forever. Furthermore, even when you lose, your credit income is still not much different from winning. So you'll still be making good money with Tirpitz when you lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
67 Destin65 Members 449 posts Report post #22 Posted September 25, 2016 Don't give up young prince. The lack of victories and survival is most likely due to the factors that you have no control over, such as matchmaking and people who exploit it as well as just completely baffling RNG. Everyone told me the Colorado sucked and yet with it being completely stock and only just 2 battles in it so far, I got a 100% win rate and really like the ship! Course, I know I've been lucky in that I've not been the subject of concentrated focus-fire yet. Remember, there's more to this game than having a good ship and being a good player, probably one of the more overlooked categories of play is simply being a good teammate. I'm sure I'm a better team player than I am a solo player, lol. And don't be afraid to ask questions, as I learned in the military there is no such thing as a stupid question. The answer may well save your life someday. Also, don't be afraid to talk in chat, ask for in-game tips, or even simply follow another player in a battle-line formation. Obviously, we have to learn by doing but it also helps to learn from more experienced players. So just like someone might emulates Muhammad Ali's boxing technique, or someone wants to play basketball like Michael Jordan, or soccer/football like Lionel Messi, sometimes it helps to just watch and learn as you can. Some mentioned watching YouTube videos, that can be of value for sure. Helps you to visualize what's going on as well as seeing what works and what doesn't. Course, anything is bound to work once, but some tactics are more successful on average than others. Good luck and don't give up on the ship! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
715 Gomez_Adams Members 2,246 posts 2,602 battles Report post #23 Posted September 25, 2016 Nobody says it's your fault. The absolute lack of people's ability to read is simply astounding. Wargaming people are the only people I see do this on a regular basis. From this very thread: You're just bad with it. happen when people skip line of ships ans suddenly use T8 premium ships.. Well you only have 8 battles in it. Basically you're a newbie. Never mind I'm top or near top on the team every single game but two where I got detonated. (In fact, if you remove those two games, my average damage goes to just over 68,000.) Never mind I'm doing server average. Never mind any of that. 8%. 8 god damned percent. A bot does better than that. For people to blame a player for an 8 god damned percent win rate goes beyond stupid into the realm of complete, patent [edited]. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
364 shootieboats Members 1,726 posts 15,900 battles Report post #24 Posted September 25, 2016 A bot does better than that. For people to blame a player for an 8 god damned percent win rate goes beyond stupid into the realm of complete, patent [edited]. Couldn't the same be said for a player who is blaming a ship? Especially when many other people have success in it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
662 [13TH] HMCS_Devilfish Members 4,901 posts 9,124 battles Report post #25 Posted September 25, 2016 There is NO HOLY GRAIL IN SHIPS here all have strengths and weakneses, when you first get a ship do some research on what they are, for instance .... If someone had gifted you the Cruiser Murmansk and you went and played it to aggresive in close brawler style your going to die most of the time cause its to fragile for that style of play, so don't expect to be great in a ship from the beginning, get some Captain skills and knowledge on how to play the Tripitz and have some fun, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
