234 Carrier_Junyo Members 738 posts 6,483 battles Report post #1 Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) My last 3 games from the PT server. Kraken and 137k dmg in the Essex and I get SIXTH out of 12 players? LOL. 180k dmg in Taiho and 2 kills and I get 1450 XP? LOL Normally, after these games I'd expect to be top 3 if not top in XP. Now, I should just hope to be in the top half of the team. Yeah, the new economy definitely "fixed" things.... Essex 1 - 137k dmg, Kraken, 1673 XP Essex 2 - 137k dmg, Kraken, 1673 XP Essex 3 - 137k dmg, Kraken, 1673 XP Taiho 1 - 180k dmg, 2 kills, 1463 XP Taiho 2 - 180k dmg, 2 kills, 1463 XP Taiho 1 105k dmg, 2 kills, 1100 XP Taiho 2 - 105k dmg, 2 kills, 1100 XP Maybe I should "tank" some damage with my CV to get more XP....that's what I'll try... Edited September 24, 2016 by lord_of_storms 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
467 legoboy0401 Members 3,064 posts 1,925 battles Report post #2 Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) I go over to Minsk, grab the head of WoWS by the throat, shake him around a bit, and say: "WHAT ON EARTH HAVE YOU DONE THIS TIME?!?!?" Edited September 24, 2016 by legoboy0401 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29 Gnarspall Members 310 posts 2,647 battles Report post #3 Posted September 24, 2016 Wow that is discouraging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,022 Gabriel_LXIX Members 2,518 posts Report post #4 Posted September 24, 2016 Good 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,440 Sirus_Patton Members 3,243 posts 1,579 battles Report post #5 Posted September 24, 2016 But, did you have your carrier up tanking damage, spotting for allies, and trying to cap zones (Don't worry, it's going to hurt more than just CVs, it's also going to be a pain to the few ships that are actually built to hang back and provide long range fire.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #6 Posted September 24, 2016 Whenever I hear economic changes, I cringe because I know something is going to be broken... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
964 [PLPT] SergeantHop Members 4,435 posts 6,599 battles Report post #7 Posted September 24, 2016 But, did you have your carrier up tanking damage, spotting for allies, and trying to cap zones (Don't worry, it's going to hurt more than just CVs, it's also going to be a pain to the few ships that are actually built to hang back and provide long range fire.) Well, for one, you don't need to spot with your ship. Spotting destroyers with fighters or similar is beneficial to the team and will get you that XP. Additionally, blocking caps with bombers is another good way to earn XP. Other than that, those numbers don't seem terrible. That Kraken game was pretty low damage, no Confederate or anything. Barely deserved the Kraken too, only getting it by securing that Hindenburg. 137k damage isn't really all that high either. Really, these numbers don't seem all that low to me. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [ZEON] XxPhoenix006 Beta Testers 89 posts 6,248 battles Report post #8 Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) Maybe it's WG's way of telling you that you did way too much to contribute to your team's victory. /sarcasm Edited September 24, 2016 by XxPhoenix006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
611 [SYN] ryuukei8569 Members 2,861 posts 10,456 battles Report post #9 Posted September 24, 2016 So, I have had a game in my hak where i hit 234 k damage yet only got 2010 base XP. Here is a hint about base XP earnings. XP earnings are based on the percentage of damage you inflict to a target, not on raw damage done. AKA killing a destroyer is worth an equal amount of credits and XP as killing a battleship. CV drivers have a nasty tenancy of tunnel visioning exclusively on enemy battleships and ignoring anything else so its onyl natural that XP and credit earnings are rather low for the amount of damage done, since they are often targeting the highest HP ships. Also the economy is changing so that people that only focus on dealing damage will earn less XP. Want to do well in the new economy, you have to start doing more than just tunnel visioning on sinking enemy battleships. Start working on that spotting of enemy DD's, help allied DD's contest caps, craplike that. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
467 legoboy0401 Members 3,064 posts 1,925 battles Report post #10 Posted September 24, 2016 Well, for one, you don't need to spot with your ship. Spotting destroyers with fighters or similar is beneficial to the team and will get you that XP. Additionally, blocking caps with bombers is another good way to earn XP. Other than that, those numbers don't seem terrible. That Kraken game was pretty low damage, no Confederate or anything. Barely deserved the Kraken too, only getting it by securing that Hindenburg. 137k damage isn't really all that high either. Really, these numbers don't seem all that low to me. Yeah, if a CV was a normal ship. But a CV isn't. A CV shoots down planes, spots things, delivers Air Support, escorts allied ships, etc.. The point(and problem) is, CVs don't get rewarded much for a great CV-style battle, they get rewarded greatly for a great non-CV playstyle battle. This is really not fair. Everyone else but the other Class who's profits stem directly from interaction with CVs, USN Cruisers, get rewarded fairly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,666 battles Report post #11 Posted September 24, 2016 Good. Anything that results in fewer CVs playing is welcome. 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,212 [GGWP3] Hyyena Beta Testers 4,968 posts 15,809 battles Report post #12 Posted September 24, 2016 Welcome to CV life! Always a nerf for you! Dont forgot its the most xp ship to up! Even in tier X! Another patch another nerf for cvs like always 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78 Me1dor Members 288 posts 7,264 battles Report post #13 Posted September 24, 2016 CV should be disabled anyway until they make it fun and skillful 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #14 Posted September 24, 2016 Wow that is discouraging. Good Great. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,644 [O7] 1nv4d3rZ1m Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 12,147 posts 9,111 battles Report post #15 Posted September 24, 2016 On the bright side that means I get to wreck more surface ships on my way to tier 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,212 [GGWP3] Hyyena Beta Testers 4,968 posts 15,809 battles Report post #16 Posted September 24, 2016 Why complain? BBaybies always get what they want. CVs kill bbs? Nerf! - done by WG DDs kill bbs? Nerf the torps! - done by WG Try nerf the BB armor? NO NO NO NO revert this. - done by WG 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,440 Sirus_Patton Members 3,243 posts 1,579 battles Report post #17 Posted September 24, 2016 Why complain? BBaybies always get what they want. CVs kill bbs? Nerf! - done by WG DDs kill bbs? Nerf the torps! - done by WG Try nerf the BB armor? NO NO NO NO revert this. - done by WG Hm, almost like they look at statistics and data to see if something is too good, if it sucks, or if a change they're making doesn't have the desired results that they're after. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,651 [CVRME] CaliburxZero [CVRME] Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,942 posts 10,662 battles Report post #18 Posted September 24, 2016 Why complain? BBaybies always get what they want. CVs kill bbs? Nerf! - done by WG DDs kill bbs? Nerf the torps! - done by WG Try nerf the BB armor? NO NO NO NO revert this. - done by WG Someone created a thread to say the same thing crying over that. Even funnier that Octavian went out of his way to say that's far from the truth. Do you enjoy the taste of your foot? Because you look equally as funny from here doing it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,644 [O7] 1nv4d3rZ1m Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 12,147 posts 9,111 battles Report post #19 Posted September 24, 2016 Why complain? BBaybies always get what they want. CVs kill bbs? Nerf! - done by WG DDs kill bbs? Nerf the torps! - done by WG Try nerf the BB armor? NO NO NO NO revert this. - done by WG Or maybe it's because someone at wg realized the nerf wouldn't have the desired affect. But I understand the desire for that aspect to be ignored in favor of the story that you like better. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
635 [THICC] LuckyStarFan Beta Testers 1,251 posts 8,316 battles Report post #20 Posted September 24, 2016 Good, one more straw towards WG actually properly fixing CVs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,212 [GGWP3] Hyyena Beta Testers 4,968 posts 15,809 battles Report post #21 Posted September 24, 2016 Oh common we know WG dont want players have fun in a cv. Lets see: Most expensive class. Most dificult class to play. Most time for upgrade ships/modules (need upgrade everthing in EVER tier). Get a nerf in EVER patch. Now you be on first on cv? Oh, thats cant happens, only BBaybies are allowed to do that ... so... nerf the points for you cvs! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,596 [-KIA-] TenguBlade Banned 9,382 posts 28,945 battles Report post #22 Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) I really don't see how this is much of a change from how CV economics work right now. If anything, it's a buff to it, because their base repair costs went way down (Taiho is something like 82k now if you don't take damage) with the repair rework. Other ships just get more XP for the things they do now. Example: This was a match on the live server from about a month ago. 1703 XP for 194k damage, a Witherer, and 16 plane kills in a Shokaku. Edited September 24, 2016 by TenguBlade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [B2P] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 44,054 battles Report post #23 Posted September 24, 2016 If it reduces CV play and screws CV players, good. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,212 [GGWP3] Hyyena Beta Testers 4,968 posts 15,809 battles Report post #24 Posted September 24, 2016 Or maybe it's because someone at wg realized the nerf wouldn't have the desired affect. But I understand the desire for that aspect to be ignored in favor of the story that you like better. I dont really care about nerf or not the bb's hull thats not my point here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #25 Posted September 24, 2016 Most dificult class to play. Is that really so? I don't mean to step on any toes, but you seem to be doing much better with carriers than with cruisers or destroyers. So I have to wonder, what are you basing this claim on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
