New idea: Fixing BB bow on problem

[theanhtb]

Problem: New rules will discourage aggressive BBs who use his/her bow to charge on the enemy

 

Fix: Stay still (or reverse) and bow on = will be penetrated 

       Full-speed charge forward and bow on = will bounce

 

How: take into account the speed of the shell hitting the ship

- Stay still ~~> shell hit the ship at its normal velocity (like 900m/s + 0 knot) ~~> pen

- Charge forward ~~> shell hit the ship at: shell velocity + ship's speed (like 900m/s + 30 knots) ~~> no pen

I know it sounds illogical since more speed should equal more kinetic energy, but who gives a flying eff about realism anyway, eh. 

I assume it would be easy to make a simple algorithm to implement this, right? 

 

 

 

[LegoGenius16]

Sounds good. I'm hoping they don't just make it easy to get penetrated bow-on at all times, for Iowa and Monty, that is the ONLY angle you won't always be citadeled from.

[theanhtb]

Sounds good. I'm hoping they don't just make it easy to get penetrated bow-on at all times, for Iowa and Monty, that is the ONLY angle you won't always be citadeled from.

Well, there are many types of penetration, 10%, 33% or citadel.

The faster you charge forward, the lesser damages you should take.

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[Glutius_Maximus]

I don't have your skills so maybe you can enlighten me: What is the problem you are trying to fix?

[reaper_swpz]

To fix the bow on meta, you must fix the problem that causes it.

 

That is, the ability to mitigate damage without relying on crutch mechanics.

[StooperDave]

To fix the bow on meta, you must fix the problem that causes it.

 

That is, the ability to mitigate damage without relying on crutch mechanics.

 

no, the root cause of the bow on and reverse meta is the lack of CVs at high tier. Get CVs fixed where more people are willing to play them, and a BB backing up at 10kts will be a big fat juicy target to sink first.

[Glutius_Maximus]

I saw the planned new rules. Now your post makes sense to me. New rule for me: Never post before my second cup of coffee.

[reaper_swpz]

 

no, the root cause of the bow on and reverse meta is the lack of CVs at high tier. Get CVs fixed where more people are willing to play them, and a BB backing up at 10kts will be a big fat juicy target to sink first.

 

You are suggesting a CV can possibly "fix" 2 Iowas backing up at 10 knots? Are you for real or just joking?

[Soshi_Sone]

The best way to fix "bow on" is to get to clans.  Team play will beat bow on.  A combination of focus fire, HE, and flanking.  It can even work without clans, but requires teamwork. 

 

Bow on is a tactic.  A tool.  It can be defeated by tactics and other tools.

[theanhtb]

The best way to fix "bow on" is to get to clans.  Team play will beat bow on.  A combination of focus fire, HE, and flanking.  It can even work without clans, but requires teamwork. 

 

Bow on is a tactic.  A tool.  It can be defeated by tactics and other tools.

 

Hmm, but most people don't play clans, so how can this be the best way to fix the bow on problem?

[Admiral_Ice]

The best way to fix "bow on" is to get to clans.  Team play will beat bow on.  A combination of focus fire, HE, and flanking.  It can even work without clans, but requires teamwork. 

 

Bow on is a tactic.  A tool.  It can be defeated by tactics and other tools.

 

 

You can't force people to work together, CLANs will do nothing

[Battleship_DukeofYork]

They don't care about your ideas... just your money. In all seriousness, the feedback collected from live is done so largely in a passive sense. Thought exchange occurs between the testers and WG in a limited sense. If they pay attention to any shouting, it's from the Russian servers.

[pag1107]

I try to move up a bit in my tier8 BBs at the beginning of matches, typically gets me burned up by massed HE spam from invisifiring DDs and CAs. I don't like the sit and snipe meta, but it beats getting torched.