Low tier IJN CV's, good for causing tears with BB players and is this a resurgence of CV's?

[Mr_Alex]

I am starting to find IJN CV's mainly the Hosho and Zuiho to be fun again, usually if I play with my Hosho, what I do with the enemy BB's, CL's or DD's is have the TB's lined on both sides of the ship and have the TB's launch torpedo from both directions, usually it nets 3-4 torpedo hits in one go and I have seen from the results, it usually causes tears or rage from the BB and CL players

[HazeGrayUnderway]

They were always good in the low tiers.  The difference was that here, USN CVs are played more despite the IJN ones being superior, so you were more likely to see Langley, Bogue than Hosho, Zuiho.  The flexibility of the 2 TBs let you crossdrop or focus their attack from one direction, in effect, have a drop like a single USN TB squadron but you have 8 planes dropping than 6 of a USN drop.

 

You missed out on the days when Zuiho used to have 3 TB spec 

[Kapitan_Wuff]

They were always good in the low tiers.  The difference was that here, USN CVs are played more despite the IJN ones being superior, so you were more likely to see Langley, Bogue than Hosho, Zuiho.

 

You missed out on the days when Zuiho used to have 3 TB spec 

I would have had fun with 3TBs...

Personally, even at lower tiers, Air Superiority CVs kinda ruin the fun for me. Either also be AS and largely unless against ships, or risk having all your planes decimated. 

[Taichunger]

I am starting to find IJN CV's mainly the Hosho and Zuiho to be fun again, usually if I play with my Hosho, what I do with the enemy BB's, CL's or DD's is have the TB's lined on both sides of the ship and have the TB's launch torpedo from both directions, usually it nets 3-4 torpedo hits in one go and I have seen from the results, it usually causes tears or rage from the BB and CL players

 

Yes, it does cause tears. Many of us have only a limited time to play, or limited cash, and can't afford to become free XP pinatas for an experienced CV captain who doesn't need the kills or the XP. 

 

We load into the game to play it, not to die pointlessly to some craven, risk-free guided missile cruiser against which there is neither recourse nor retaliation. I don't even understand the kind of mind that would want to operate such a ship and enjoy ruining games for others -- just glad I don't have it.  

[Misniso]

You missed out on the days when mirror matching didn't happen.  You were often the sole CV in the game and Air Superiority Bogues showed up every 6 games.

[Mr_Alex]

 

Yes, it does cause tears. Many of us have only a limited time to play, or limited cash, and can't afford to become free XP pinatas for an experienced CV captain who doesn't need the kills or the XP. 

 

We load into the game to play it, not to die pointlessly to some craven, risk-free guided missile cruiser against which there is neither recourse nor retaliation. I don't even understand the kind of mind that would want to operate such a ship and enjoy ruining games for others -- just glad I don't have it.  

 

Because I find CV's fun

[Taichunger]

 

Because I find CV's fun

 

Exactly my point. But those of us whose games are ruined for no reason other than you find it fun to kill ships without risk, don't find that fun.

[Amogussy]

 

Exactly my point. But those of us whose games are ruined for no reason other than you find it fun to kill ships without risk, don't find that fun.

 

That's why you grind up the USN CL/CA line to get god tier AA as a way of saying "screw you CVs!"

[PelicanHazard]

I would have had fun with 3TBs...

Personally, even at lower tiers, Air Superiority CVs kinda ruin the fun for me. Either also be AS and largely unless against ships, or risk having all your planes decimated. 

 

You can also play around them if they're USN AS spec for the most part.

[Hyyena]

You also can stop crying and play with team (with CLs for AA surport). 

[1nv4d3rZ1m]

I feel like it's more about causing tears on the the team that experiences the misfortune of having you as their CV.

[Personator]

 

Exactly my point. But those of us whose games are ruined for no reason other than you find it fun to kill ships without risk, don't find that fun.

 

So... the risk of becoming a useless ship isn't fun? Here's a different comparison.

 

Imagine that everytime you jump into a BB, you have a high chance of losing one turret every 2 minutes. Not temporarily incapacitated, destroyed.

 

Now have fun with being a Myogi again.

[Zhoyzu]

 

Exactly my point. But those of us whose games are ruined for no reason other than you find it fun to kill ships without risk, don't find that fun.

 

Odd then why so many play battleships 40KM from the fight.

[Taichunger]

 

That's why you grind up the USN CL/CA line to get god tier AA as a way of saying "screw you CVs!"

 

I have Montana, thanks. That's not the issue. The issue is the bizarre attitude that thinks deleting other players without risk or recourse is "fun". "I ruined another player's game!" What kind of person celebrates that?

 

[Misniso]

 

I have Montana, thanks. That's not the issue. The issue is the bizarre attitude that thinks deleting other players without risk or recourse is "fun". "I ruined another player's game!" What kind of person celebrates that?

 

 

Dunno.  We should ask the BB players who continually one-shot cruisers seconds into a fight why they celebrate.

[Personator]

 

I have Montana, thanks. That's not the issue. The issue is the bizarre attitude that thinks deleting other players without risk or recourse is "fun". "I ruined another player's game!" What kind of person celebrates that?

 

 

Deleting cruisers with impunity is fun, whereas deleting BBs in CVs isn't supposed to be?

[Mr_Alex]

 

Deleting cruisers with impunity is fun, whereas deleting BBs in CVs isn't supposed to be?

 

Thats the best part about CV's to be honest

[kerensky914]

 

Deleting cruisers with impunity is fun, whereas deleting BBs in CVs isn't supposed to be?

 

Yes, because he isn't the one doing it, therefore it can't be fun and must be abhorrent.

[Alexandrix]

Please don't compare bb and cv play when talking about people getting deleted.

You aren't helping yourself any.

 

BB's have to show themselves and become vulnerable to enemy fire and torpedoes to take a shot,while praying to rngesus that their shells don't just straight spazz out and give the enemy ship a nice shower.

 

CV's hide in the corner of a map completely immune to any retaliation,aside from the enemy cv(who is probably busy deleting enemies himself),while playing a crappy version of an rts and clicking on red ship icons to instantly end someone else's game.

[Mr_Alex]

Please don't compare bb and cv play when talking about people getting deleted.

You aren't helping yourself any.

 

BB's have to show themselves and become vulnerable to enemy fire and torpedoes to take a shot,while praying to rngesus that their shells don't just straight spazz out and give the enemy ship a nice shower.

 

CV's hide in the corner of a map completely immune to any retaliation,aside from the enemy cv(who is probably busy deleting enemies himself),while playing a crappy version of an rts and clicking on red ship icons to instantly end someone else's game.

 

CV's deleting BB's are basically normal

[Personator]

Please don't compare bb and cv play when talking about people getting deleted.

You aren't helping yourself any.

 

BB's have to show themselves and become vulnerable to enemy fire and torpedoes to take a shot,while praying to rngesus that their shells don't just straight spazz out and give the enemy ship a nice shower.

 

CV's hide in the corner of a map completely immune to any retaliation,aside from the enemy cv(who is probably busy deleting enemies himself),while playing a crappy version of an rts and clicking on red ship icons to instantly end someone else's game.

 

So apparently, being vulnerable to becoming a toothless predator isn't being risky?

 

So... the risk of becoming a useless ship isn't fun? Here's a different comparison.

 

Imagine that everytime you jump into a BB, you have a high chance of losing one turret every 2 minutes. Not temporarily incapacitated, destroyed.

 

Now have fun with being a Myogi again.

 

Read this over and think about it. This is how it's like to be a CV.

[Misniso]

Please don't compare bb and cv play when talking about people getting deleted.

You aren't helping yourself any.

 

BB's have to show themselves and become vulnerable to enemy fire and torpedoes to take a shot,while praying to rngesus that their shells don't just straight spazz out and give the enemy ship a nice shower.

 

CV's hide in the corner of a map completely immune to any retaliation,aside from the enemy cv(who is probably busy deleting enemies himself),while playing a crappy version of an rts and clicking on red ship icons to instantly end someone else's game.

 

This from the class that can bow tank and laugh as Cruiser HE gets progressively less damaging.  Then you promptly lolpen them for good measure.

 

When you're stuck dealing 1k of HE damage per salvo and the battleship is on its way to recovering 1/3 of its hp, you tend to realize that battleships don't die unless they meet another battleship or a wall of torps.  How cheap is that?

[Alexandrix]

 

So apparently, being vulnerable to becoming a toothless predator isn't being risky?

 

Read this over and think about it. This is how it's like to be a CV.

 

while that may be a thing for low tier cv's(which i get this thread is about),that wil happen so rarely to higher tier cv's as to not even be a consideration,much less any kind of real threat to your game.

Higer tier cv's have anywhere from 50ish(tier 6) to 100(A HUNDRED FRIGGIN PLANES/t10).

So no,losing 1 or 2 planes every time you delete someone isn't a real threat to you,and to be honest i'm shocked you even tried to use that as an argument or justification.

[Misniso]

 

while that may be a thing for low tier cv's(which i get this thread is about),that wil happen so rarely to higher tier cv's as to not even be a consideration,much less any kind of real threat to your game.

Higer tier cv's have anywhere from 50ish(tier 6) to 100(A HUNDRED FRIGGIN PLANES/t10).

So no,losing 1 or 2 planes every time you delete someone isn't a real threat to you,and to be honest i'm shocked you even tried to use that as an argument or justification.

 

So, how many of those 50 / 100 planes are TBs?

18 - 25.

 

Between all ships, how many planes are generally shot down during a match?  Like 50.

 

Go ahead and watch as that type of plane disappears from your inventory before the match is halfway done.

[Alexandrix]

 

So, how many of those 50 / 100 planes are TBs?

18 - 25.

 

Between all ships, how many planes are generally shot down during a match?  Like 50.

 

Go ahead and watch as that type of plane disappears from your inventory before the match is halfway done.

 

But did you die?

 

You still have plenty of fighters and dive bombers left.You can still actually play the game.No,it might not be with the insta-gibbing hand of god that you'd like to,but you can still participate and contribute with fighters to scout/kill other planes and db's to cause damage/set fires.

 

Anyone you delete with ufo planes that drop torps 2 feet from someone's bow,well,their game is just straight over.