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Just unlocked Hipper

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Finally done with the Yorck grind. Have to say, despite hating her initially, I warmed up to her over time. I still don't like the fact that she's an HE spammer until she gets into close range (which almost never happens until very late in the game if at all) but she has her strengths. She's fairly survivable (for a cruiser) and I LOVE the German torpedos and their arcs. I've rushed many a BB down thanks to those. But I still don't think I will keep her. I don't have the Myoko yet but I played 1 game in the new ARP ship and she was powerful. Definitely a better T7 cruiser in my opinion.

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Still, Hipper is one of those marquee ships you have your eye on when you begin the line and I'm pretty hyped. I have free EXP saved to unlock all her modules as well as a 13 point captain which I'm moving into her.

 

Questions:

 

Which skills should i take? My skipper is currently 

T1: BoS, BFT

T2: EM

T3: ViG 

T4: DE

 

He was sitting in the Yorck so I made good use out of HE. Should I stick with DE or move to AFT as Hipper's AA seems pretty good. I'm assuming concealment is worth taking at 15 since CA's get deleted by and need to hide as much as possible obviously

 

And again, Hydro or Def AA? I feel like both have their merits. CV's at T8 seem to be somewhat regular and German hydro is OP. Which do you guys prefer? 

 

Lastly modules? I'm assuming the standard ones apply but anything else let me know!

 

Otherwise I'm totally pumped. I love the German cruiser line play style and I can't wait to get her into combat. 

 

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Hipper is a very good ship. Once upgraded you have excellent AA so you do not fear CVs.

 

I sold after getting Roon but might buy her back some time. Liked the ship but needed the captain.

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This is how I've set mine up. I won't claim this is the only way to do it, but it works for me.

 

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Hipper is a very good ship. Once upgraded you have excellent AA so you do not fear CVs.

 

I sold after getting Roon but might buy her back some time. Liked the ship but needed the captain.

 

So you definitely think its worth grabbing AFT and running Defensive AA? I still feel like I see regular CV's. Maybe 1 in every 2 or 3 matches. And while I would always have the potential to use hydro, the higher in tiers you go as a cruiser the more passive and farther away you tend to be so I don't know if its all that useful either. 

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Just a warning, you will get normal penetrated a ton but citadels won't happen for you unless it is plunging fire hitting you.

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This is how I've set mine up. I won't claim this is the only way to do it, but it works for me.

 

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I was thinking something very similar. Do you find Hydro or Defensive AA more beneficial? 

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I would recommend hydro if you're more aggressive, and Def AA if you would rather protect you team. But with lack of CVs, Hydro seems better imo.

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So you definitely think its worth grabbing AFT and running Defensive AA?

 

AFT? Yes

Defensive AA? No. German hydro is best in game. Use it.

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Do you find Hydro or Defensive AA more beneficial? 

 

In the current meta a very strong case can be made for Hydro.

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Whelp. Had a couple games in her. First was terribly mediocre as it was a 5 DD T9 game with multiple Fletchers per team and theirs stomped ours and you can imagine how it ended up.

 

2nd game was much better. 3 kills, 99k damage!. Not bad. I do very much like her guns. Their velocity is so good. She seems pretty tanky too. Took a ton of punishment in that game and ended on 4000 life but never took a citadel. 

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I love the ship and it does some really good damage with AP. I only use HE for DDs and well angled targets since the AP will do some serious damage to just about anything you see the side of.

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This is how I've set mine up. I won't claim this is the only way to do it, but it works for me.

 

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I just got my Hipper today as well. I currently have the same capt skills on my captain.

 

It'll take time to get used to how the Hipper plays from the Yorck.

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I quite liked Adm.Hipper to the point on getting the Premium Camo for her early on when I got her.  IMO, a very all-around Cruiser.  Toss in Demolition Expert, you have additional HE+Fire capability on top of her good AP shells.  The guns are great.  The shells behave nicely.  She handles just right.  Her protection is sufficient.  She has decent torps with favorable arcs.  IJN Cruisers have far superior torpedoes but from Tier VII on, have horrible arcs (Atago being exception).

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I just got my Hipper today as well. I currently have the same capt skills on my captain.

 

It'll take time to get used to how the Hipper plays from the Yorck.

 

 

The best thing you can do in a Hipper is stick with a friendly Battleship and escort it. Hopefully they aren't a complete moron and will actually contribute to the team. You are just too squishy to be a frontline ship, but you can really help BBs take out enemy cruisers and DDs. Also, your AA is pretty darn good.

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I didn't go with AFT since Hipper doesn't have the most spectacular AA, i went with demo expert, and it works well so far, the extra fire chance gives me a chance against yamato and montana. I haven't sailed her since before the KMS BB's were introduced, but i can say, bow on she can fight moskva 1v1, i know cause I've done it. She's definitely better than New Orleans, since NOLA is more of a fire support and anti air build support ship, whereas hipper like the rest of the german fleet in game is a commerce raider designed to run the Royal Navy bloclades and wreak havoc on the Atlantic, unfortunately, the only hipper that actually did much of anything was Prinz Eugen, since Seydlitz was wrecked by norwegian coastal batteries, and Hipper was essentially mothballed.

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I'm missing something here.  Hydro means water.  Now as far as I know you are talking about AFT for AA and DE for Hydro??  shouldn't that be pyre or something akin to that or am I way off base?

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I'm missing something here.  Hydro means water.  Now as far as I know you are talking about AFT for AA and DE for Hydro??  shouldn't that be pyre or something akin to that or am I way off base?

 

DE is the 4th tier Captain skill, Demolition Expert, which grans a 3% increase in chance of starting a fire. "Hydro's" is short for Hydroacoustic Search, which is one of the upgrade options. You can choose either Hydro which greatly increases torpedo detection range OR you can choose Defensive Fire AA to help shoot down planes. 

 

Personally I use Hydro. I find it FAR more useful match to match as there is almost always destroyers, and at high tiers usually 3 or more. 

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Hipper is a real target rifle. It's HE can be very effective against BBs and DDs. Her AP is very destructive against CAs that show their flank. Bow on against CAs, use HE. When close in to a BB showing their flank, consider AP right in the Cit.

 

Just avoid shots from everyone, including DDs.

 

By the way, I figured your question was answered so I thought some generic Hipper advice was ok.

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DE is the 4th tier Captain skill, Demolition Expert, which grans a 3% increase in chance of starting a fire. "Hydro's" is short for Hydroacoustic Search, which is one of the upgrade options. You can choose either Hydro which greatly increases torpedo detection range OR you can choose Defensive Fire AA to help shoot down planes. 

 

Personally I use Hydro. I find it FAR more useful match to match as there is almost always destroyers, and at high tiers usually 3 or more. 

 

Hydro = Hydroacoustic Search consumable which detects ships & torpedos within 5.6 km and 3.8km range, respectively, regardless of smoke or cyclone obscuring. This is a Consumable.

Vigilance = +25% to torpedo detection range. This is a Commander Skill.

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