Frustrated with CV imbalance...

[SkywhaleExpress]

 

 

Currently, there are only two USN CV's with a win rate at or above 50%. Saipan, and Midway. Meanwhile, every IJN CV in the game is well above 50% win rate. The grueling grind to Midway is phenomenally painful. I've tried air superiority, but it leaves me entirely dependent upon 11 other randoms to deal damage. I have tried strike, but then AS USN or strike IJN beats me out easily. 

 

For instance, Essex has to go AS just to match the 3 fighters of Taiho's full strike group.  Taiho gets 3 fighters groups, 2 TB/2DB. Stock Essex cannot compete in either air or strike capability, because it's 2/1/1, vs. 2/2/2 off the bat.....

 

What do I do to counter this horrendous imbalance of CV's? Has anyone learned/posted videos that show how to successfully combat a superior vessel? 

[vak_]

For instance, Essex has to go AS

 

Essex does just fine with strike. Hell, Lexington does just fine with strike, and it doesn't even get a fighter.

 

But yeah, USN CVs need some buffs. And not in the form of bigger fighter ammo capacity, unless that corresponds with a 50% or so boost to credit and XP income from shooting down airplanes. The only USN carrier that truly benefits from that buff is Saipan -- and not like it needs a buff in the first place, the ship is basically P2W.

[Madwolf05]

But we of givings you extra ammo for fighters comrad. Problem is of solved!

[1nv4d3rZ1m]

Didnt you get the memo? 

 

Apparently USN CVS are terribly OP and need huge nerfs immediately, at least according to people that play IJN CVs. 

[ckupf]

As much as I hate CVs to begin with the massive balance issue needs to be addressed, and the 30% increase in US fighter ammo is not what they need to do. CVs are by far my least played class (haven't gone past T5) but having played thousands of higher tier battles I can say this, when my team has a USN CV and they have an IJN CV I know it will be a tough battle. Unless the USN CV player is far better there is often nothing you can do. CVs have an outsize influence on the battle and there is not much to be done.

 

I am suprised the Langley is that low honestly... I preferred it the Hosho. 

 

This isn't a case of what you can do, it's a case of what WG can do, which is to not make IJN CVs so freaking powerful. 

[ckupf]

Didnt you get the memo? 

 

Apparently USN CVS are terribly OP and need huge nerfs immediately, at least according to people that play IJN CVs. 

 

Yeah, this is one case of general agreement about which is better.

[Madwolf05]

WarGaming is smarter than this, they're just hell bent on not changing a system that clearly doesn't work.

[War_Maggot]

Those who whine about cv's bring overpowered have never played them. I don't know if you noticed, but the complainers never have anything above a Ryujo or Bogue.

If played PROPERLY, a cv is by far the hardest ship in the game to play. AA at tier 4 and above has become a joke; most cvs end up with no planes at the end of a mid-long running game. Def AA is ridiculous and should never have been implemented. When I can shoot down 2 planes in a game with my AURORA, the game is imbalanced. This all happened with the update before last, due to the whiners who refused to learn how to deal with planes. People act like getting bombed or torped by planes should never happen, yet they don't see a problem with ships having unlimited ammo and doing 150K damage in a game.

I have an Essex and there isn't a Taiho I have run into yet that I couldn't handle. Besides, it is NOT a cv's job to wipe out the enemy cv, whether he is strike or not. 

[vak_]

If played PROPERLY, a cv is by far the hardest ship in the game to play

 

Please. Playing CV is easy mode, everybody knows that.

[Nachoo31]

 

Essex does just fine with strike. Hell, Lexington does just fine with strike, and it doesn't even get a fighter.

 

But yeah, USN CVs need some buffs. And not in the form of bigger fighter ammo capacity, unless that corresponds with a 50% or so boost to credit and XP income from shooting down airplanes. The only USN carrier that truly benefits from that buff is Saipan -- and not like it needs a buff in the first place, the ship is basically P2W.

 

LOL Saipan is Pay to win.  If you have tier 5 captain it might be.  But like OP says you have to have a team that can kill ships if you run AS. As what I run 100% of the time.  

[SkywhaleExpress]

 

Please. Playing CV is easy mode, everybody knows that.

 

Please, show me how. I am CV n00b.

[SkywhaleExpress]

The one thing I don't understand is:  One half of people are telling me to run AS, the other half tell me to run strike.

[vak_]

LOL Saipan is Pay to win

 

If you have tier 5 captain it might be

 

you have to have a team that can kill ships if you run AS

 

Yep. It is.

 

Five point captain is nice (and easy to get on a premium ship), but Saipan does just fine without one.

 

Oh no, air superiority Saipan isn't P2W, that's P2_sorta_do_some_damages_and_try_to_deny_the_other_carrier. 2/2 Saipan is where its at.

 

Please, show me how. I am CV n00b.

 

1. Enter a match as a CV

2. Do over 90000 damages

3. ???

4. PROFIT

 

The one thing I don't understand is:  One half of people are telling me to run AS, the other half tell me to run strike.

 

Depends on tier. Bogue and Indie strike loadouts are pretty terribad, since you have so little airplanes. On the other hand, Lexington strike is the only good way to play that ship, after WG removed the 2/1/1 loadout.

[VTAdmiral]

Didnt you get the memo? 

 

Apparently USN CVS are terribly OP and need huge nerfs immediately, at least according to people that play IJN CVs. 

 

Speak for yourself, I've been campaigning to buff USN carriers for months.

[Madwolf05]

 

Yep. It is.

 

Five point captain is nice (and easy to get on a premium ship), but Saipan does just fine without one.

 

Oh no, air superiority Saipan isn't P2W, that's P2_sorta_do_some_damages_and_try_to_deny_the_other_carrier. 2/2 Saipan is where its at.

 

 

1. Enter a match as a CV

2. Do over 90000 damages

3. ???

4. PROFIT

 

 

Depends on tier. Bogue and Indie strike loadouts are pretty terribad, since you have so little airplanes. On the other hand, Lexington strike is the only good way to play that ship, after WG removed the 2/1/1 loadout.

 

Bogue's best loadout is default. She gets 1 fighter squad and 1 torpedoe bomber squad. She has plenty of reloads for both.

[Taichunger]

CVs ARE balanced. 

 

From WG's point of view. 

 

These threads are so wonderful. 

[vak_]

Bogue's best loadout is default

 

Yep, that's how I played her, and how I would play her if I wanted to play Bogue again for some reason (I don't, of course)

[Raptor_alcor]

Sad part is the USN is in such bad state because the IJN does everything the USN can do but  better due to having more squads. I don't know about anyone else but I'd rather have the carrier that has 4/2/2 over the carrier that has 3/0/2 if only because the 4/2/2 can intercept enemy aircraft effectively AND still put the hurt on the enemy, god forbid we point at the IJN not having a strike loadout, just balanced and stronger balanced.