New Japanese Destroyers: A Good or Bad Addition?

[Captain_Suzuki]

Hello, everyone. I am sure you guys have heard of the new Japanese destroyers, and I am very excited to see them: The Akatsuki (Fubuki sub-class) at tier 7, Shiratsuyu at tier 8, Akizuki at tier eight, and Yugumo at tier 9. However, I am worried about the current Japanese destroyers and how the changes will affect them.

 

First, at tier five, the Mutsuki has been demoted from tier six to five. I don't know how this ship will compare to the Minekaze, but it will most likely be less liked. Or maybe, because it was dropped a tier, it may be more liked. I don't know.

What worries me the most is the Fubuki and Hatsuharu at tier six. The Hatsuharu, in my opinion, is worse in every respect to the Fubuki. I didn't hate it when I played it, but I think it will compare not be compared well to the Fubuki... unless they buff the Hastsuharu and nerf the Fubuki. This worries me. I currently have the Fubuki at tier 8. I don't want to see such a good ship nerfed and thrown back two tiers. Besides, it hinders my progress down the Japanese destroyer line. Currently, I am at tier 8. I don't want to be demoted back to tier six! So, will players that already have progress on the Japanese DD line get the equal tier ship unlocked for free, or will they be sent back to the new tier of the ship?

 

Just a lot of questions, I'd love to hear some other opinions and answers on this topic.

 

Thanks,

Capt. Akio Suzuki

[Nuk_]

With the Fubuki, what'll probably happen is that you'll get the new tier 8 for free, and if WG is feeling generous, they'll give you the Fubuki at tier 6 too.

[VTAdmiral]

I'm mostly optimistic because

 

 

[Captain_Suzuki]

Okay, what about all the equipment and commander crew skills? If what you say is true, everything should happen as follows: I get Kagero, I unlock Akatsuki for free, and I may or may not keep Fubuki? If I don't get to keep Fubuki, what about the commander? I have no extra spaces in the barracks, so will he get placed in Kagero?

[Kevik70]

More ships is good, though I never really planned to go to far up the IJN DD line. Maybe I will now. On the down side its just more ship stats I need to memorize.  (Well gun performance, detection, and torpedo, since the rest is rather irreverent.) 

[Nuk_]

Okay, what about all the equipment and commander crew skills? If what you say is true, everything should happen as follows: I get Kagero, I unlock Akatsuki for free, and I may or may not keep Fubuki? If I don't get to keep Fubuki, what about the commander? I have no extra spaces in the barracks, so will he get placed in Kagero?

 

Your commander will probably go to the new ship.

[Captain_Suzuki]

Well then... how badly will they nerf the Fubuki? I know it needs the nerf, but I've notice that when WG nerfs something to a lower tier, they tend to do it a bit too overly...

[Czevak]

From a ship that could delete any ship, into a ship that fires ticklish torpedoes..

 

We present to you.. FUBUKI! 

[HKRevolutionOfOurTime]

Who knows? We have no real clue the stats of any of these ships on release.

[Warlord_Deadeye_Pete]

 

so lets see, Shiratsuyu historically mounts DP main guns so OMG a IJN DD with something resembling AA.  And the Akizuki is a gun boat ( had a automated shell handling system significantly improved its rate of fire) a class 2 DD but still mount 2 4 tube launchers..gonna be a scary ship, also, should have radar. Did historically.  Yugumo also has DP guns and in its final form significant short range AA (with the air spotting range of IJN DD"S those crappy 25mm mounts become very usefull)

IJN DD skippers rejoice!  Yer getting ships with guns that work!  Which is a good thing.. as improving over all player skill has been making it over all much more difficult to score kills with torp's consistantly.  The Akatsuki's will also be quite welcome.

 

I think this is an awesome additions to the IJN DD line.  And it starts showcasing the IJN concept of type A DD's which were designed to go out and hunt down cruisers and BB's.  While the Type B DD"s were anti sub, andto air, and anti enemy DD's ships.. or in other words, fleet escorts.

 

Of course all these ships will have torps capable of 7 to 15 km range.  Mostly whats gained I'm thinking is going to be improved gunnery performance, primarily ROF in the main line, and DP main guns and improved AA in the second line.

 

While gunnery ROF and range may not be as good as the US DD's, the IJN DD guns typically hit just a hair harder then their US conterparts, but they've suffered from poor gun performance.  This should redress some of that.  There still not going to be gun boats.. but they will be significantly more able to play  a gun ship role and should be significantly better ships then the main line IJN DD in their tier over all.

 

That's my best guess.. which of course WILL NOT survive wargaming's game balancing  but it should still be great fun!

 

Bring 'em!

 

 

[Submarine_Wahoo]

We do not know how the shuffling of destroyers will affect their stats. Will Mutsuki and Hatsuharu get a ROF buff, as a way of making them IJN gun ships much like Akizuki? Will torpedoes in the existing line be buffed to more solidly distinguish them as torpedo ships? Only WG knows at this point and even then, it might be debated heavily internally.

[awiggin]

Well then... how badly will they nerf the Fubuki? I know it needs the nerf, but I've notice that when WG nerfs something to a lower tier, they tend to do it a bit too overly...

 

Probably something along these lines....

 

 

 

[MajorRenegade]

Bad because Battleships players got more new things to whine about. Anything with torp must be nerfed! *ranting bb player*

 

[BlazerSparta]

And the Akizuki is a gun boat ( had a automated shell handling system significantly improved its rate of fire) a class 2 DD but still mount 2 4 tube launchers..gonna be a scary ship, also, should have radar. Did historically. 

 

Akizuki only had 1x4 torp tubes, with a second set of 4 in quick reloads.

 

As for radar, lots of ships had radar historically. Most of them don't have it in game.

 

What Akizuki is more likely to get is defensive fire.

[Captain_Suzuki]

This update is gonna be so confusing for me. You see, I don't put money into games, so what I do is I sell the ship of previous tier before moving on to the next one. So, I'm gonna do some rearranging in my port.

[Jenska]

I'm of the same opinion as the OP. I don't want  my PROGRESS to be demoted from T8 back to T6 along with my boats; I've already unlocked T8, I don't expect to have to do it again in yet another new T7 boat. I hope they put slots on sale so we can keep the old boats until we decide what we want at the new lower tiers. I was on the verge of rebuying a Hatsu, but now maybe not, but I still want my Fubuki and Mutsuki until I see how things work out.

[tortelloni]

Since the ships have not even hit the test servers, I'm gonna go with good...no, wait, bad, no good, no bad, wait a minute, they are definitely gonna be ....whatever they turn out to be

[Royeaux]

I can only hope this means WGing is taking a closer look at balancing the IJN DD line, since if torpedo boats can't land any torpedoes, no one is going to grind the line apart from kancolle fans.

[MotorheadEddie]

I'm a Battleship main, but this is too cruel of punishment for Fubuki by my standards. I feel for those who loved the T8 Fubuki have just been shafted, as for Fubuki herself as a T8 you were an honorable adversary in battle. I detonated your magazines, you torpedoed me when I wasn't paying attention, or I sunk you with my secondary brawler builds. In conclusion we were allies, enemies, who constantly got back at each other as we engaged in battle or assisted each other as fellow comrades. Now you are gone as a T8 Destroyer....to be replaced as a T6 destroyer my T8-10 ships will miss you Fubuki the German wing of the fleet will present you a Viking Funeral/ Ceremony and bid you farewell as an Ally and worthy opponent for a T8-10 ship. Go forth now to the Gates of Valhalla, Odin awaits as you join them as one of the valiant dead..

 

[Battleship_DukeofYork]

Feh. More destroyers. I'm personally ready for the desperately needed light cruiser/heavy cruiser split, as well as the BB/BC split for countries that can handle it.

 

Also, Britain ANYTHING.

[MotorheadEddie]

Feh. More destroyers. I'm personally ready for the desperately needed light cruiser/heavy cruiser split, as well as the BB/BC split for countries that can handle it.

 

Also, Britain ANYTHING.

 

​I agree, HMS Warspite the grand old lady must be reunited with her fleet sooner or later. I'll just wait a little longer

[LordCorellon]

Really been ripping it up with the Fubuki lately, going to be sad to see her lose her spot. Will probably sell her now and buy the kag. Hopefully(fingers crossed) that when the new ships roll out, and the changes made I'll get the T9 ship.

 

[LordCorellon]

Feh. More destroyers. I'm personally ready for the desperately needed light cruiser/heavy cruiser split, as well as the BB/BC split for countries that can handle it.

 

Also, Britain ANYTHING.

 

will have a whole line of British ones coming soon.

[Midnitewolf]

New ships are always a good thing however I am pretty disappointed the WG is wasting their time with adding new IJN DDs when we still don't have any German or British DDs in the game.  Instead of modelling something we don't really need right now, I want them to be focusing on the stuff we do need.  Heck even Russian BBs would be a better use of their modelers times. 

[gurudennis]

It's a good addition, but the timing couldn't be any worse. Until the cruiser population increases beyond the current critical level, creating incentives to run other ship types is irresponsible of WG.