Carry harder they say...

[I401_Fog]

Carry harder they say...

 

I'm gonna need to find some peace at bottom of the ocean. 

 

 

[godzilla5549]

You didn't do enough to win. That's why you deserve to lose.

 

~ issm

[Cruiser_Senjo]

U are a submarine what did you expect ?

[I401_Fog]

You didn't do enough to win. That's why you deserve to lose.

 

~ issm

 

kill 7 of them, if that's not enough. I don't know what more could I do.

 

And its a team game not me VS red alone.

[RogueFlameHaze]

Man I hate those games when they roll around. WP to you though

[BlazerSparta]

kill 7 of them, if that's not enough. I don't know what more could I do.

 

And its a team game not me VS red alone.

 

Perhaps the game needed you on the other flank where there were fewer kills to be had. Maybe they needed you to pressure or defend a base instead of going for kills.

 

It doesn't matter if you score 11 kills if you let the one critical DD through to cap.

[Oberarzt_U511]

Oh I was in that game as well just now. Grats to you for carrying so hard ... I haven't seen 7 kills in ages from anybody. 

 

 

 

Yeah both teams made some huge mistakes - I got a CQC medal from an Isokaze who charged me and missed 4 whole salvoes of torpedoes ... and your battleships didn't like to WASD very much  . Our Hosho also did a lot of work, while your carriers were busy having a tea party with their fighters, which I couldn't resist strafing.  

[Seraphil]

Man, those deadweight BBs on your team...

[godzilla5549]

 

Perhaps the game needed you on the other flank where there were fewer kills to be had. Maybe they needed you to pressure or defend a base instead of going for kills.

 

It doesn't matter if you score 11 kills if you let the one critical DD through to cap.

 

See?

 

Nothing anyone ever does will live up to this standard you have.

 

Someone could deal all the damage possible in a match while the rest of their team goes AFK, and they lose, you would still blame them and say they don't deserve anything.

 

"Git more gud" is all you are saying.

[A_FIELD_MARSHAL]

 

Perhaps the game needed you on the other flank where there were fewer kills to be had. Maybe they needed you to pressure or defend a base instead of going for kills.

 

It doesn't matter if you score 11 kills if you let the one critical DD through to cap.

 

Not his problem if he scored 7 kills while 11 other players on his side could not kill remaining 5 ships. 

 

He cannot be everywhere on the map at the same time to cover for a bunch of brain dead players.

[Destroyer_HatsuzukiKai]

90k damage in tier 5 is not enought, it doesnt matter if you steal 7 kills, you didnt even got high caliber.

[Goodwood_Alpha]

Perhaps the game needed you on the other flank where there were fewer kills to be had. Maybe they needed you to pressure or defend a base instead of going for kills.

 

It doesn't matter if you score 11 kills if you let the one critical DD through to cap.

 

You like to assume a lot, don't you. The Marines have a saying for that, you know...

[I401_Fog]

 

Perhaps the game needed you on the other flank where there were fewer kills to be had. Maybe they needed you to pressure or defend a base instead of going for kills.

 

It doesn't matter if you score 11 kills if you let the one critical DD through to cap.

 

 

See?

 

Nothing anyone ever does will live up to this standard you have.

 

Someone could deal all the damage possible in a match while the rest of their team goes AFK, and they lose, you would still blame them and say they don't deserve anything.

 

"Git more gud" is all you are saying.

 

Its really easy to criticism others for something that based on pure thesis， I see.

[Mezurashi]

Yep, I've definitely experienced this as well, but I was on my Hatsuharu and only did 6 kills. I was the only DD in my team. We had mostly BBs and CAs. Our coward BBs just stayed behind the lines trying to snipe while the enemy BBs rushed to us which is why I got to kill them with torpedoes. Unfortunately, the BBs in my team refused to move forward. Sigh..

[Goodwood_Alpha]

Its really easy to criticism others for something that based on pure thesis， I see.

 

That's why we all love issm.

[I401_Fog]

Oh I was in that game as well just now. Grats to you for carrying so hard ... I haven't seen 7 kills in ages from anybody. 

 

 

 

Yeah both teams made some huge mistakes - I got a CQC medal from an Isokaze who charged me and missed 4 whole salvoes of torpedoes ... and your battleships didn't like to WASD very much  . Our Hosho also did a lot of work, while your carriers were busy having a tea party with their fighters, which I couldn't resist strafing.  

 

well congratulation on the win, next time hopefully you are on my team.

[BlazerSparta]

 

 

Its really easy to criticism others for something that based on pure thesis， I see.

 

I apply the same standard of gameplay criique to myself.

 

99% of the time, if I die, or lose, there's something I could have done better to eke out the extra few thousand, or hundred HP, or do the extra few points of damage, or extra few cap points I would have needed to survive and/or carry.

 

It's just that 99% of the time, idgaf if I win or lose

 

There's always something you could have done better.

 

If you lose, then you didn't do something you could have, and don't deserve to be rewarded like you won - you didn't. Simple as that.

[I401_Fog]

 

I apply the same standard of gameplay criique to myself.

 

99% of the time, if I die, or lose, there's something I could have done better to eke out the extra few thousand, or hundred HP, or do the extra few points of damage, or extra few cap points I would have needed to survive and/or carry.

 

It's just that 99% of the time, idgaf if I win or lose

 

There's always something you could have done better.

 

If you lose, then you didn't do something you could have, and don't deserve to be rewarded like you won - you didn't. Simple as that.

 

Its pointless to debate on your standards as it does not stand for anything. And I can see you are try to argue with me, but unfortunately I don't have that time for it, so at this point I will simply ignore anything you say.

[Oberarzt_U511]

 

well congratulation on the win, next time hopefully you are on my team.

 

Likewise, you do have quite some skill. 

 

90k damage in tier 5 is not enought, it doesnt matter if you steal 7 kills, you didnt even got high caliber.

 

Yes but sometimes damage isn't the primary goal in helping the team. Considering the aim of the BB players on his team, they probably would have melted away a lot faster if it wasn't for I401 eliminating some of our BBs and destroyers (who seemed to have slightly better aim) 

 

 

I apply the same standard of gameplay criique to myself.

 

99% of the time, if I die, or lose, there's something I could have done better to eke out the extra few thousand, or hundred HP, or do the extra few points of damage, or extra few cap points I would have needed to survive and/or carry.

 

It's just that 99% of the time, idgaf if I win or lose

 

There's always something you could have done better.

 

If you lose, then you didn't do something you could have, and don't deserve to be rewarded like you won - you didn't. Simple as that.

 

You do have a point about the reflection part, and the bit where you shouldn't put too much weight on whether it's a win or a loss. I generally don't really care too much about winning or losing either. It's a great way of improving. And yes, victory/defeat is based on the cumulative efforts of the team - so if you do lose, then yes, it's a loss and it's fine to accept it. I mean we both got pretty decent exp, with a difference of only 300, so we both still did get rewarded per se. But still, I401's performance was impressive (even if it could have been better), so it does warrant some praise along with the criticism. 

[BlazerSparta]

 

Likewise, you do have quite some skill. 

 

 

Yes but sometimes damage isn't the primary goal in helping the team. Considering the aim of the BB players on his team, they probably would have melted away a lot faster if it wasn't for I401 eliminating some of our BBs and destroyers (who seemed to have slightly better aim) 

 

 

You do have a point about the reflection part, and the bit where you shouldn't put too much weight on whether it's a win or a loss. I generally don't really care too much about winning or losing either. It's a great way of improving. And yes, victory/defeat is based on the cumulative efforts of the team - so if you do lose, then yes, it's a loss and it's fine to accept it. I mean we both got pretty decent exp, with a difference of only 300, so we both still did get rewarded per se. But still, I401's performance was impressive (even if it could have been better), so it does warrant some praise along with the criticism. 

 

Praise, certainly, but rewards? He failed to accomplish the objective of the game, why should he be rewarded for that failure?

[Oberarzt_U511]

 

Praise, certainly, but rewards? He failed to accomplish the objective of the game, why should he be rewarded for that failure?

 

There is a distinction between not rewarding 'failure' and compensating for the completion of actions which could have led towards a possible success. 

[Goodwood_Alpha]

Praise, certainly, but rewards? He failed to accomplish the objective of the game, why should he be rewarded for that failure?

 

For the same reason medals are still given to extraordinary soldiers for acts of heroism, even if the overall battle is lost.

[Submarine_Wahoo]

I'm reminded of my 200k damage Lexington game (with High Caliber & Confederate, of course) that ended in a draw of all things...

[HazeGrayUnderway]

I'm pouring out a 40 for you, OP.

[BlazerSparta]

There is a distinction between not rewarding 'failure' and compensating for the completion of actions which could have led towards a possible success. 

 

The actions that earn exp and credits are not necessarily the actions that lead to victory.

 

I've scored top exp previously in matches where I'm escorting the CV, and the team collapses.

 

Do I deserve bonus exp for that?

 

For the same reason medals are still given to extraordinary soldiers for acts of heroism, even if the overall battle is lost.

 

Real life. Game. Different.

 

In games, you're rewarded for accomplishing objectives.

 

Unless there's a mission going around, the objective is to win, not to kill as many enemies as you can disregarding everything else.

 

There are instances where not killing an enemy is the right choice, yet those situations will not result in you placing top xp, even if you contributed more to the game than the guy with 7 stolen kills.