194 dem0lsh0r Members 1,677 posts 266 battles Report post #1 Posted August 23, 2016 Question: is there any way the weapons from the Halo series could work in real life? Not any bullpup weapons like the Assault Rifle or DMR, weapons like the SAW, Magnum, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
194 dem0lsh0r Members 1,677 posts 266 battles Report post #2 Posted August 23, 2016 As to why I didn't post this in the Small Arms thread, I actually did post it there about a week or 2 ago, and never got an answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 DivineCause Members 28 posts 2,189 battles Report post #3 Posted August 23, 2016 Could you add some more context? Your question is a little vague, like when you say 'work', do you mean the tech that are in the weapons or the design of the weapons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
194 dem0lsh0r Members 1,677 posts 266 battles Report post #4 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Could you add some more context? Your question is a little vague, like when you say 'work', do you mean the tech that are in the weapons or the design of the weapons? I just mean would it be possible for them to exist and function the way they do in-game. It's possible to see if a weapon could function in reality just from looking at the profile and seeing it function in-game (reloading, firing, etc.) For example, look at the SMG. It doesn't seem like it could work until you look at how the P-90 works. All you have to do is move the magazine on to the side of the gun and use caseless rounds. Edited August 23, 2016 by dem0lsh0r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 DivineCause Members 28 posts 2,189 battles Report post #5 Posted August 23, 2016 Then yes. In the case of the SAW, look at the Russian RPD, or the American Colt CMG as examples for drum fed LMGs(If I'm understanding your question properly). As for the Magnum, the Corner Shot system is the closest thing we have for a camera/scope on a handgun; but who knows, in a few more years, something almost exactly like Halo's Magnum could appear, but it's unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #6 Posted August 23, 2016 Simple weapons like the Magnum could probably work. The SAW & Magnum look based off of real life weapons imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 DivineCause Members 28 posts 2,189 battles Report post #7 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) If you want a VERY comprehensive list of most modern firearms: http://world.guns.ru/index-e.html Very good site, if you've thought of it, someone has tried it and it either worked well, was so-so, or just plain failed. Chances are, you'll be able to find what you're looking for in terms of concept and execution. Edited August 23, 2016 by DivineCause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
194 dem0lsh0r Members 1,677 posts 266 battles Report post #8 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) So with this in mind, is there actually a way for the bullpup rifles to work? -]EDIT[- I noticed that the charging handle acts as the mag release on the AR and BR, which doesn't move while firing, and I'm guessing that while the handle isn't directly connected, it can still push back the bolt for unlocking, but the bolt can't pull it back while firing. Edited August 23, 2016 by dem0lsh0r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
496 Stratego89 Members 2,046 posts 2,264 battles Report post #9 Posted August 23, 2016 I'd say that near all of the (conventional) weapons used by the... oh god it's been so long I've forgotten the name... USMC?.... "Master chief side" would work in real life, as again- conventional. I'd say that once we move our technology along a bit further even some of the covenant or even prothean weapons could be created in real life as well. SoonTM... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
77 Punisher_One Members 383 posts Report post #10 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) The AR has a mag release on the right side of the magazine well. The charging handle charges the bolt but it is not connected and it is held in place by a latch when pushed forward. You gotta get out of the house, lol. I don't know how old you are but if you go to a firing range everyone there would be glad to show you their weapons and how they function. Edited August 23, 2016 by Punisher_One Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
964 [PLPT] SergeantHop Members 4,435 posts 6,599 battles Report post #11 Posted August 23, 2016 I'd say that near all of the (conventional) weapons used by the... oh god it's been so long I've forgotten the name... USMC?.... "Master chief side" would work in real life, as again- conventional. I'd say that once we move our technology along a bit further even some of the covenant or even prothean weapons could be created in real life as well. SoonTM... UNSC But, yeah, most of them look theoretically workable. The charging handle on AR-pattern guns doesn't move, either. It locks to the upper receiver when the weapon is operating, and the bolt just moves under it. Very simple design. As to how it would release the magazine, that would take some engineering, but I'm sure it could be done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,455 [FOXEH] DoomStomper Beta Testers 3,985 posts 2,373 battles Report post #12 Posted August 23, 2016 So with this in mind, is there actually a way for the bullpup rifles to work? Sure. The closest modern analogues would likely be the 5.56x45 FN F2000 for the assault rifle, and the 7.62x51 Kel-Tec RFB for the DMR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,148 [NDA] kerensky914 Supertester 3,926 posts 2,863 battles Report post #13 Posted August 23, 2016 Sure. The closest modern analogues would likely be the 5.56x45 FN F2000 for the assault rifle, and the 7.62x51 Kel-Tec RFB for the DMR. There are a lot of good bullpup designs out there. Main problem with bullpups is getting the trigger to work well, because the trigger up front but the firing mechanism is at the back of the stock. I like both the Steyr AUG and the IWI Tavor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58 [WRHD] EroSun Alpha Tester 336 posts 5,808 battles Report post #14 Posted August 23, 2016 Sure. The closest modern analogues would likely be the 5.56x45 FN F2000 for the assault rifle, and the 7.62x51 Kel-Tec RFB for the DMR. don't forget the british SA80 series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA80 its a bullpup too and in active military service. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,455 [FOXEH] DoomStomper Beta Testers 3,985 posts 2,373 battles Report post #15 Posted August 23, 2016 There are a lot of good bullpup designs out there. Main problem with bullpups is getting the trigger to work well, because the trigger up front but the firing mechanism is at the back of the stock. I like both the Steyr AUG and the IWI Tavor. True, the extended linkage of bullpups often yields a subpar trigger feel. The RFB, however, is widely praised in reviews as being an exception to this. I would very much like to own one at some point, but not until the supply catches up with the demand, as most of the ones I've encountered at gun shows are priced hundreds above MSRP. Haven't encountered many Tavors in person, but understand them to be a very promising platform. As for the AUG, I was considering including the HBAR variant with an aftermarket drum magazine like a Beta C-Mag as an analogue for Halo's SAW. The ergonomics of that combination would be pretty awkward, though. don't forget the british SA80 series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA80 its a bullpup too and in active military service. Another groundbreaking design. Always liked the look of those, but it's a shame they were plagued with so many reliability issues. The L86A2 variant with a drum mag could also be a contender for a present-day Halo SAW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
194 dem0lsh0r Members 1,677 posts 266 battles Report post #16 Posted August 23, 2016 So since the only requirement for a bullpup configuration is for the magazine to be behind the trigger, would most handguns count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58 [WRHD] EroSun Alpha Tester 336 posts 5,808 battles Report post #17 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Nope, handguns are just that....Handguns. The definition back in the 50's however did include handguns...providing they had "fancy" stocks lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullpup Edited August 23, 2016 by EroSun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
