55 [SKDSH] Aldo_Raine__ [SKDSH] Members 309 posts 15,995 battles Report post #1 Posted August 22, 2016 When firing a salvo is like rolling a dice. Cruiser, broadside, 4 km away>>>>that's "delete" or "almost delete"....yeah well....not with Gneisenau....with this epic POS everything is possible....you may completely over-penetrate, you may completely straddle the lucky target, you may do some insignificant damage like 3660, or my favorite 2110! I may as well start playing poker coz I really don't see the difference between Gneisenau and a damn slot machine... 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
320 [AARG] Adm_Nate_Ellis937 Beta Testers 1,249 posts Report post #2 Posted August 22, 2016 Word of advice: take her into Co-op or Training Room and practice practice practice. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
762 IceSerpen7 Members 3,959 posts 7,738 battles Report post #3 Posted August 22, 2016 Practice makes perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,605 [HINON] Nuk_ Beta Testers 3,931 posts 8,150 battles Report post #4 Posted August 22, 2016 Uh... No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55 [SKDSH] Aldo_Raine__ [SKDSH] Members 309 posts 15,995 battles Report post #5 Posted August 22, 2016 No. Practice has nothing to do with. It just can't shoot. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #6 Posted August 22, 2016 Considering that ship has the highest average damage at tier 7, i'm going to say user error. 29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
391 Venom81 Members 1,840 posts 2,716 battles Report post #7 Posted August 22, 2016 When firing a salvo is like rolling a dice. Cruiser, broadside, 4 km away>>>>that's "delete" or "almost delete"....yeah well....not with Gneisenau....with this epic POS everything is possible....you may completely over-penetrate, you may completely straddle the lucky target, you may do some insignificant damage like 3660, or my favorite 2110! I may as well start playing poker coz I really don't see the difference between Gneisenau and a damn slot machine... Sounds like you were getting a lot of overpens. I'd say back up, but does that even matter in this game? Does being closer to a target increase chances of overpens? If muzzle velocity is consistent for the entire gun range, I wouldn't think it would matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55 [SKDSH] Aldo_Raine__ [SKDSH] Members 309 posts 15,995 battles Report post #8 Posted August 22, 2016 Considering that ship has the highest average damage at tier 7, i'm going to say user error. It may have the highest AVERAGE, i don't disagree.However, I am talking about CONSISTENCY. It's completly unpredictable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,555 [GWG] AVR_Project Members 8,019 posts 15,941 battles Report post #9 Posted August 22, 2016 I'll trade you my Krasny Krym for it... LOL Take a break. A bad day is a bad day. Do something you can enjoy - like some low tier blasting in co-op. Let's face it, you got to the Gneiseau the hard way. You know how to shoot stuff. You also know by now that there will be bad days. This is a bad day. That ship is high tier so taking it into Co-op will cost you. Just let it sit. It'll be there tomorrow when your luck might be good enough to detonate an Iowa on your first salvo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #10 Posted August 22, 2016 uwot Gneisenau is great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55 [SKDSH] Aldo_Raine__ [SKDSH] Members 309 posts 15,995 battles Report post #11 Posted August 22, 2016 I'll trade you my Krasny Krym for it... LOL Take a break. A bad day is a bad day. Do something you can enjoy - like some low tier blasting in co-op. Let's face it, you got to the Gneiseau the hard way. You know how to shoot stuff. You also know by now that there will be bad days. This is a bad day. That ship is high tier so taking it into Co-op will cost you. Just let it sit. It'll be there tomorrow when your luck might be good enough to detonate an Iowa on your first salvo. I didn't get it the "hard way". I free XP it. The dispersion pattern is worse than on NC before the sigma upgrade. It goes from pin-point accurate to a choke-less shotgun spread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
315 [BONKZ] YukikazeFortunateBeaver Members 3,880 posts 16,745 battles Report post #12 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) I didn't get it the "hard way". I free XP it. The dispersion pattern is worse than on NC before the sigma upgrade. It goes from pin-point accurate to a choke-less shotgun spread. there's the problem. You dont know how to play it yet Edited August 22, 2016 by Marie_splatoon 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55 [SKDSH] Aldo_Raine__ [SKDSH] Members 309 posts 15,995 battles Report post #13 Posted August 22, 2016 there's the problem. You dont know how to play it yet Are you implying that one can "learn" to improve dispersion?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
391 Venom81 Members 1,840 posts 2,716 battles Report post #14 Posted August 22, 2016 there's the problem. You dont know how to play it yet This isn't true. The OP has fought in over 5000 battles. You're thinking of someone who doesn't understand game mechanics. This is clearly not the case here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
315 [BONKZ] YukikazeFortunateBeaver Members 3,880 posts 16,745 battles Report post #15 Posted August 22, 2016 Are you implying that one can "learn" to improve dispersion?... know how your guns act and use that to your advantage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 Covalence Beta Testers 110 posts 2,637 battles Report post #16 Posted August 22, 2016 The only downside to the ship is the number of guns. the Gneisenau has the trollish armour of the Scharnhorst with Warspite calibre guns that can effectively damage anything. I don't have the ship, but from my experience facing off against them it plays like a tier 7 North Carolina. Point front at enemy, hit the gas, angle slightly, and giggle intently when the poor guy realizes you also have torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #17 Posted August 22, 2016 Seems understandable. On paper, she just seems like a T7 Myogi with torps. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
114 [NDA] Wolff_Punisher Beta Testers, Beta Testers 1,097 posts 11,236 battles Report post #18 Posted August 22, 2016 The ship is better than most think it is. It's a good all around ship, AA is very good for it's tier, takes a pretty good beating and can dish it out even with only 6 guns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #19 Posted August 22, 2016 The only downside to the ship is the number of guns. the Gneisenau has the trollish armour of the Scharnhorst with Warspite calibre guns that can effectively damage anything. I don't have the ship, but from my experience facing off against them it plays like a tier 7 North Carolina. Point front at enemy, hit the gas, angle slightly, and giggle intently when the poor guy realizes you also have torps. Just torped an Ognevoi trying to torp me. Never going to get old 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,057 [DAMP] Fodder4U In AlfaTesters, In AlfaTesters 2,696 posts 14,166 battles Report post #20 Posted August 22, 2016 I am currently at the Gneisenau and it is my favorite of the line so far with the Konig a close second. No issues at all dealing damage with it. I was one of the ones doubting it's ability when we were told it was not going to have the 11" guns the Scharn has but I have been converted and truely love this ship and it will be my keeper T7 for sure. So OP I highly recommend you practice with it and also watch any vids of it in action as the issue is not with the ship but with how you are playing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #21 Posted August 22, 2016 having a citadel is almost impossible to hit inside of 15km is a big bonus to survivability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
391 Venom81 Members 1,840 posts 2,716 battles Report post #22 Posted August 22, 2016 Does being closer to a target increase chances of overpens? If muzzle velocity is consistent for the entire gun range, I wouldn't think it would matter. Hellu? I'm still curious about this. Common sense says yes, but limitations of game design make me think it very well may not matter. Does anyone have any infos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
109 [CWGC] Summon3r Members 848 posts 2,977 battles Report post #23 Posted August 22, 2016 OP if your at 4km of a cruiser and your guns dont delete him then why on earth are you not torp deleting? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,750 [FOXEH] Kitsunelegend Beta Testers 6,103 posts 1,313 battles Report post #24 Posted August 22, 2016 OP, are you in any way related to a user by the name of GUTB? Cause if not, I'm sure you two would get along greatly. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
93 [BOOTY] USSWest_Virginia Beta Testers 385 posts 9,531 battles Report post #25 Posted August 22, 2016 I just looked at your ship stats and you have a better main gun hit ratio in it than most of your other bbs. 34% in the gneisenau, 24% in the NM, 28 in the yamato, 23 in the fuso 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
