310 [BTD] mustangman6579 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,253 posts 5,851 battles Report post #1 Posted August 20, 2016 So the Camo I understand. It gets used. But why do consumables? I never used a single one. In WoT you only get charged for what you use. So basically if I had this set to gold, I get charged real money for something I never used. Also why repairs? I never got hit once. In fact I never even got spotted until the very end. I understand ammo costs. But repairs? This game is a huge money sink already, why the need for more? Basically I got rip off for 54000 credits. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
825 [ARMDA] Unabletony Members 9,004 posts 6,614 battles Report post #2 Posted August 20, 2016 If WG gets enough complaints, they might be able to implement this. However, it seems there are enough threads about this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #3 Posted August 20, 2016 If they removed those charges, they'd just lower the reward to compensate.....less credits == greater chance of getting a player to spend.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
22 Rusten_De_Mont Beta Testers 268 posts 4,323 battles Report post #4 Posted August 20, 2016 Also, the price will rise if you don't get charged for non used consumables. Right now, I think repair and service costs need a slight reduction, but other than that I thin we're ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
123 LordCorellon Members 711 posts 2,197 battles Report post #5 Posted August 20, 2016 Really sucks when you have a pile of level 2 consumables and its burning them when you dont use them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #6 Posted August 20, 2016 The ability to have them on hand and available for use. Even if you don't use them in the match, you pay for them to be on your ship and the 'reassurance' that you have faster repair, smoke, health etc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
182 [WHS] TheBlackWind Beta Testers 1,073 posts 14,492 battles Report post #7 Posted August 20, 2016 The ability to have them on hand and available for use. Even if you don't use them in the match, you pay for them to be on your ship and the 'reassurance' that you have faster repair, smoke, health etc.. That argument doesn't make much sense since logically that same consumable left unused would be there still on the ship for the next battle. That's how it is in WoT. They just decided to change it here for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,596 [-KIA-] TenguBlade Banned 9,382 posts 28,311 battles Report post #8 Posted August 20, 2016 You know you can buy premium consumables for credits too, right? To my knowledge WoT doesn't have that feature, which is probably why the devs haven't done as you suggested with doubloon prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #9 Posted August 20, 2016 That argument doesn't make much sense since logically that same consumable left unused would be there still on the ship for the next battle. That's how it is in WoT. They just decided to change it here for some reason. *shrugs shoulders* Don't ask me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,414 yUPPatriots Members 3,929 posts 21,416 battles Report post #10 Posted August 20, 2016 This inst WoT now is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
744 Admiral_Ice Beta Testers 2,319 posts 9,297 battles Report post #11 Posted August 20, 2016 This is why I dont buy consumables Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,106 [WKY19] Zaydin Beta Testers 2,674 posts 19,350 battles Report post #12 Posted August 20, 2016 Because WG stubbornly insists on including Fun Taxes in all their games. I mean, for all the faults, early on with MechWarrior Online, Piranha Games correctly recognized repair costs as exactly that and removed them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,048 SteelClaw Members 1,226 posts Report post #13 Posted August 20, 2016 Be thankful you can even use those better ones. They could go back to the old WoT days when the only way you could use them was to buy them with gold. So be thankful you can buy them here without using doubloons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,106 [WKY19] Zaydin Beta Testers 2,674 posts 19,350 battles Report post #14 Posted August 20, 2016 Be thankful you can even use those better ones. They could go back to the old WoT days when the only way you could use them was to buy them with gold. So be thankful you can buy them here without using doubloons. Uhhh... so far as I know, the only way to get the premium consumables is to buy them with doubloons, barring the ones I have stockpiled from the Project R event and such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #15 Posted August 20, 2016 Why do you pay for it? SerB wills it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #16 Posted August 20, 2016 It's a cash grab. Lock out the good content behind the pay wall and people will buy premium. If you're me, and were going to do that anyway, it's just philosophically really irritating. If you're my buddy John, when the discounts for high tier repairs went away, you stopped playing anything above tier 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
310 [BTD] mustangman6579 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,253 posts 5,851 battles Report post #17 Posted August 20, 2016 You know you can buy premium consumables for credits too, right? To my knowledge WoT doesn't have that feature, which is probably why the devs haven't done as you suggested with doubloon prices. No, WoT lets you use credits too. I see no answers why to repairs as well. WOuld be nice to see WG answer on this money grab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
22 Rusten_De_Mont Beta Testers 268 posts 4,323 battles Report post #18 Posted August 20, 2016 Uhhh... so far as I know, the only way to get the premium consumables is to buy them with doubloons, barring the ones I have stockpiled from the Project R event and such. Click the Dubloon sign when you go to select the prem consumables and you can pay silver for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,445 [BLKRS] Lady_Athena Alpha Tester 1,176 posts 3,088 battles Report post #19 Posted August 20, 2016 Because WG stubbornly insists on including Fun Taxes in all their games. I mean, for all the faults, early on with MechWarrior Online, Piranha Games correctly recognized repair costs as exactly that and removed them. No No No, they think its "fun and engaging" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,106 [WKY19] Zaydin Beta Testers 2,674 posts 19,350 battles Report post #20 Posted August 20, 2016 Click the Dubloon sign when you go to select the prem consumables and you can pay silver for them. Was not aware of that. Will have to check it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 [-KWF-] UnchartedHammeR [-KWF-] Members 63 posts 4,084 battles Report post #21 Posted August 21, 2016 I agree with the OP. premuim consumables not used should not be charged when not used. If WG can give us them in bundles and from events and missions. Why can't they not be charged for non I use. It would also be nice to be able to switch back to the free version without destroying them. Since they clearly have a way to have multiples on hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,425 [0456] _ENO_ Members 3,945 posts 10,545 battles Report post #22 Posted August 21, 2016 I don't know about WOT but in Blitz they had consumables like cola, chocolate and extra rations or something like that and you burned through it every mission no matter what. I suspect this is the same and while you may not activate the crews they are on standby on your ship and therefore "consumed." At least you don't get charged for every time they're activated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
91 ADM_Zakk_Zero Members 811 posts 4,250 battles Report post #23 Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) I can't find it at the moment, but I started a thread once after discovering I was always charged a repair fee even when I survived a battle with 100% of my HP remaining. If not already brought up, there is always a at least a standard fee for repairs the moment you return to port. IIRC, the first time I noticed it was when I returned to port in a tier 10 Gearing and was charged 22,500 in silver for repairs, despite returning with all of my hit points. IMHO it's not right, it's not fair, and it's not completely logical, but it is the way it is. It being this way generates more real world revenue for WG, so unless someone there says "Hey, we're earning too much money", it will never change unless it causes a large enough uproar from the player base. I think my previous post on this thread was about the consumables, but I apologize if I have repeated some stuff I already said. *side note: just now realized my previous comments I was referring to were in a completely separate but similar/related thread: http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/91546-auto-resupply/page__p__2236142#entry2236142 **even further side note: found the thread I mentioned at the top of my post. I include this not to beat a dead horse and vent further, but only to provide more info & insight to help others and prevent the creation of more/redundant threads on the same issue: http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/85673-mystery-repair-costs/page__fromsearch__1 That thread is the journey of one lowly player as he transitioned from an innocent ignorant noob to a wiser, resigned, crotchety old veteran. Already used by someone on another thread: "You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." ―Morpheus Edited August 21, 2016 by ADM_Zakk_Zero 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
281 [YYZ] The_Necromancer_015 Members 536 posts 13,790 battles Report post #24 Posted August 21, 2016 Says Repair and Service, so I assume it is fuel, food, payroll, dock fees, shoreside electrical and sewage fees, bar damages and bail in Olongapo/Subic Bay etc... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
91 ADM_Zakk_Zero Members 811 posts 4,250 battles Report post #25 Posted August 21, 2016 Says Repair and Service, so I assume it is fuel, food, payroll, dock fees, shoreside electrical and sewage fees, bar damages and bail in Olongapo/Subic Bay etc... +1 Likely accurate- and very fun to read..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
