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Bismarck Secondaries fun, but not as good as hoped.

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Been running the Bismarck for a while now, got a full secondary build going. Virtually all targets fired upon were battleships. Here are the results of a few matches:

Best Game so far. total of 182 secondary hits, damage + fire = ~25k damage. 14.5% of damage caused. Overall accuracy, 28.5%

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bad game, 112 secondary hits, total of only 5.9k damage, 1 fire. 8% of damage caused. Overall accuracy 30.1%

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Another bad game but 80 secondary hits, 12.6k damage this time. 17% of damage contributed. Overall accuracy 15.6%

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Another low damage game, team was just wiping stuff off the map. 86 secondary hits for a whopping 8.7k damage. 13.6% of damage caused though, no fires. Overall accuracy 21.7%

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Edit: With Manual secondaries, the hit rate of the guns approaches that of the average main battery accuracy. Maybe enough to make a difference in sub 10km fights. The sight of the secondaries going off is awesome and I will keep using the build to see how it performs. Currently  it sometimes does decent but other times it falls flat.

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I'm about to unlock manual secondary on my Bayran :trollface:. just 20k more exp to go

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I don't think stats alone do secondary builds justice. You'd have to tell us how you did that damage. I mean if most of the damage was done at 10km, then the extra 12k damage is pretty okay considering that's basically a DD's entire health pool. The strength of the secondary build is that it basically causes a massive zone of denial around your ship. Secondary hits rack up as ships get closer which means that DDs often won't yolo charge you (because it's not worth it or they literally can't due to being sunk). Having a zone of immunity against DDs, and to a lesser extent CAs, like that is something that can't be understated.

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I don't think stats alone do secondary builds justice. You'd have to tell us how you did that damage. I mean if most of the damage was done at 10km, then the extra 12k damage is pretty okay considering that's basically a DD's entire health pool. The strength of the secondary build is that it basically causes a massive zone of denial around your ship. Secondary hits rack up as ships get closer which means that DDs often won't yolo charge you (because it's not worth it or they literally can't due to being sunk). Having a zone of immunity against DDs, and to a lesser extent CAs, like that is something that can't be understated.

 

True, I had a kiev dip within 10km range and it noped the hell out. So far my targets have been BB's have yet to see what manual secondaries do to DD's but I won't hold my breath.

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The problem with German secondaries is they use HE only while being mounted on ships that have unilaterally garbage HE because national flavor.  Saturation doesn't take hold as fast as it does with the Japanese, but when it does it hits even harder because the German fire chance is lower.  

 

The bright side is that short of versus broadside cruisers under 7km the Japanese AP secondaries aren't much more effective.

 

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The problem with German secondaries is they use HE only while being mounted on ships that have unilaterally garbage HE because national flavor.  Saturation doesn't take hold as fast as it does with the Japanese, but when it does it hits even harder because the German fire chance is lower.  

 

The bright side is that short of versus broadside cruisers under 7km the Japanese AP secondaries aren't much more effective.

 

 

Better fire chance than USN though. However, why is the fire chance better for the 105's than the 150? lol.

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