13 [OPGS] LOVESOCK307 Beta Testers 61 posts 7,511 battles Report post #1 Posted August 19, 2016 Anyone else having issues getting wins in the GK? I've avg'd 118k dmg over 27 matches and I'm finding it really difficult to get wins. Running an 18pt captain with CE focus. Anyone else finding success in a different build or play style? I play it just like a Montana. I don't want to make this one of those "Its my team not me" posts but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Lol tell me its bad teams and not just me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,370 Terrible_Turtle Members 5,202 posts Report post #2 Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) You seem to be doing quite well in the Großer. I suspect your WR woes are the result of your team as it appears you're pulling your weight. You're averaging 32k more damage in the GK than the Montana. That's not a small number. You're also more accurate with your guns and are sinking more ships. Doesn't seem like you're doing anything wrong. Unfortunately, the brawling play style of the German BBs doesn't suit the current NA meta very well. The addition of hydro is supposed to let you close the distance with the enemy with more confidence, but doing so quickly gets you focused. At least you've got a massive HP pool, eh? Do you have replays? Edited August 19, 2016 by Kombat_W0MBAT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13 [OPGS] LOVESOCK307 Beta Testers 61 posts 7,511 battles Report post #3 Posted August 19, 2016 You seem to be doing quite well in the Großer. I suspect your WR woes are the result of your team as it appears you're pulling your weight. You're averaging 32k more damage in the GK than the Montana. That's not a small number. Unfortunately, the brawling play style of the German BBs doesn't suit the current NA meta very well. The addition of hydro is supposed to let you close the distance with the enemy with more confidence, but doing so quickly gets you focused. At least you've got a massive HP pool, eh? Do you have replays? I don't have any replays but I should start doing that. But I'm relived to hear you think it's the team and not just me haha. I know more goes into a win than the amount of damage you do but the constant losing makes me reeeeeeeally salty in chat to my own team. I apologize for what I said when I was salty (and hungry) haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69 [EF21] Rusty_Bucket__ Members 676 posts 46,849 battles Report post #4 Posted August 19, 2016 I asked myself the same question with a lower tier KM BB. I was scoring really well, but my team couldn't get a win. I analyzed my own play and concluded I needed to fight harder to win and hold a CAP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,183 mohawkdriver Members 4,535 posts 16,610 battles Report post #5 Posted August 19, 2016 I hope the reports like this continue so maybe WG will buff the GK appropriately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
112 anonym_QOibb7dMvRGh Members 557 posts Report post #6 Posted August 19, 2016 The point about the NA 'meta' is so true. People are afraid of getting their paint scratched. Fair enough if you go alone you are easy prey, but if the team as a whole would grow some man fruits and push, things would be different. Especially with the new German bb's that are taylor made for up close and personal brawling. Had a great game in my Nassau last night where about 4 Nassau's from each team met mid-map and had an epic secondaries battle. Even though my team lost it was great fun. A far cry from the sit back and snipe bb play that is so prevalent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #7 Posted August 19, 2016 How to win: find DDs that won't sit inside their own smoke and eat a torp and die within the first 5mins. Preferably, find 5 of them that don't do that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #8 Posted August 19, 2016 What would really help the German BBs is repair cost reduction. Because sorry, until the fix repair costs, if my Izumo sinks, I'm losing credits or if I do well, barely scrape even. If costs were lower, I would be much more open to leading a charge. If repair costs get cut permanently, then people as a whole will be much more encouraged to engage for high risk/reward actions, which in most cases is attempting to rush and brawl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,322 [-K-] Special_Kay Beta Testers 5,660 posts 18,914 battles Report post #9 Posted August 19, 2016 Bear in mind, when it's only NA that has the high-tier meta we do, they can't really buff the brawler line to also be competitive in long-range standoffs. That would be incredibly unfair in the regions where being a brawler is already a leg up on one's peers. It'd be like Yamato receiving a traverse buff to help her knife-fight in the RU meta. (Take this with a grain of salt; it's not the same thing, but the point remains.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,230 battles Report post #10 Posted August 19, 2016 I hope the reports like this continue so maybe WG will buff the GK appropriately. I was under the impression after hearing a few people, super-testers in fact, say that BEFORE it came out, compared to what it is now, it GOT a buff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
89 [-KWH-] Rhal_ Members 208 posts 8,261 battles Report post #11 Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) You didn't seem to have any problem blowing my FDG out of the water earlier today. It was my fault for letting you catch me broadside, but that will happen from time to time. I can confirm that the concealment build is annoying; you would drop out of sight as soon as I had a shot lined up. I'm having the same problem as you, but with the Bismarck. It's a great ship, and I enjoy playing it. I get plenty of damage and kills in it, but I've lost the last 7 games I've played with it. Regardless, I don't think the GK is a bad ship, but I only have 4 games in it so far. It's lack of torpedo protection really does need to be addressed though. Edited August 19, 2016 by Rhal_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,544 [PSA] KaptainKaybe Members 5,118 posts 3,754 battles Report post #12 Posted August 19, 2016 I can't comment on how potato your team is or not as I really don't know without replays, but from my experience, battleship captains with high damage numbers and low win rates tend to focus too much on damage rather than pushing an objective or controlling an area. Mostly staying on the edge picking off stray ships one by one. OP, do you support your team in capping in Domination matches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13 [OPGS] LOVESOCK307 Beta Testers 61 posts 7,511 battles Report post #13 Posted August 19, 2016 I can't comment on how potato your team is or not as I really don't know without replays, but from my experience, battleship captains with high damage numbers and low win rates tend to focus too much on damage rather than pushing an objective or controlling an area. Mostly staying on the edge picking off stray ships one by one. OP, do you support your team in capping in Domination matches? I like to think I do. But dd's end up getting evaporated quickly and cruisers won't push caps so we usually end up on the defensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,544 [PSA] KaptainKaybe Members 5,118 posts 3,754 battles Report post #14 Posted August 20, 2016 That's the problem with tier 10 game play. Everyone is too scared to take risks, so team that manages to cap first tends to win as they control the middle. It's why I prefer tiers 6 through 8 ships. I have an Iowa and I rarely play her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,434 battles Report post #15 Posted August 20, 2016 The GK needs teammates to help it. Teammates to either punish enemies or to protect it by detecting torpedoes or smoking for it. Without those, it's almost impossible to play. A division ship as opposed to the solo capabilities of say a Moskva. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
211 [QAPLA] Kanzler_Bismarck Beta Testers 1,186 posts 4,640 battles Report post #16 Posted August 20, 2016 It does suck when even your DDs are "sniping".... I just said "_ _ _ k this" and now just sit back and snipe with wveryone else... Got sick of getting torped by DDs no one is scouting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
