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^ True. Graf Zeppelin is the only German CV they almost complete. And other 4 German CV are: German CV 1 (1942) & German CV 2 (made out of incomplete French cruiser De Grasse never finish), & on paper Jade-class CV. With German Cruiser Seyditz the Fourth Hipper was incomplete trying to make into CV but scrap. If they had more time to finish them in time they could made a difference. 

 

There were other designs, though, like large Atlantic raider-carriers. These were never put into production, but, if they had, it would have probably changed the course of the war of the Atlantic.

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There were other designs, though, like large Atlantic raider-carriers. These were never put into production, but, if they had, it would have probably changed the course of the war of the Atlantic.

 

​It would be fun to have Atlantic Raider-Carriers in WoWS.  It will make things interesting in a fight.

The Question now is how many Squadrons for the German CV: 5 or less/more?  Graf Zep: 41 planes of  Arado Ar 19​ or/upgrade to ​Bf 109 F dive & torp JU 87 D-4. German CV 1915 (Ausonia) had 23 to 30 of fighters, torp, & dive. Europa: 24 Bf 109 T & 18 JU 87 C dive bomber. German CV 2 (Half finish French Cruiser): 11 Bf 109 T & 12 Ju 87 D. Jade: 12 of Bf 109 E & Ju 87 D. Weser: 10 of  Bf 109 E & Ju 87 D. If WG going to put them in as a normal or 2 or 3  Premium ships witch of 6 German CV that is the Question. This goes up to tier 9 missing a 10.

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​It would be fun to have Atlantic Raider-Carriers in WoWS.  It will make things interesting in a fight.

The Question now is how many Squadrons for the German CV: 5 or less/more?  Graf Zep: 41 planes of  Arado Ar 19​ or/upgrade to ​Bf 109 F dive & torp JU 87 D-4. German CV 1915 (Ausonia) had 23 to 30 of fighters, torp, & dive. Europa: 24 Bf 109 T & 18 JU 87 C dive bomber. German CV 2 (Half finish French Cruiser): 11 Bf 109 T & 12 Ju 87 D. Jade: 12 of Bf 109 E & Ju 87 D. Weser: 10 of  Bf 109 E & Ju 87 D. If WG going to put them in as a normal or 2 or 3  Premium ships witch of 6 German CV that is the Question. This goes up to tier 9 missing a 10.

 

I mean, practically any land-launched fighter can be launched off of a carrier if you give it a tail-hook and train the pilot. I think that, to remain competitive, the Germans need larger squads of strike aircraft, but smaller fighter squads, as the Focke-Wulfe.190 was a stellar aircraft, as were many other German fighters. However, the number of squads... I'm not sure about that. Hopefully more at Tier 7 and 8 than the Americans currently get...

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I mean, practically any land-launched fighter can be launched off of a carrier if you give it a tail-hook and train the pilot. I think that, to remain competitive, the Germans need larger squads of strike aircraft, but smaller fighter squads, as the Focke-Wulfe.190 was a stellar aircraft, as were many other German fighters. However, the number of squads... I'm not sure about that. Hopefully more at Tier 7 and 8 than the Americans currently get...

 

​So the layout of German CV similar to the Saipan squads? If so that cool.

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​So the layout of German CV similar to the Saipan squads? If so that cool.

 

Possibly, although I'm no expert on balance. Hopefully, there won't be an option for 3 fighters.

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Possibly, although I'm no expert on balance. Hopefully, there won't be an option for 3 fighters.

Let's hope. My opinion for 4 Fighter than 3 fighters.

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Thanks for the support

 

​Ur welcome. Is what I do on the Forums & on the Game.

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Let's hope. My opinion for 4 Fighter than 3 fighters.

 

No, I mean, 3 fighter squads as opposed to 3 fighter aircraft.

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No, I mean, 3 fighter squads as opposed to 3 fighter aircraft.

 

Alright I'm good with that.

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For torpedo bombers, I think they should use Fw 190 F-8/U3, since the real Graf Zeppelin was going to use biplane torpedo bombers, and compared to the Stuka and the Bf 109, that isn't going to work well in a high tier game, so using the F-8/U3 is going to be a better option since it'll be on the same level as the other aircraft being used.

 

190s (any variant) would never get off a carrier flight deck,they had too high of wingload and required longer runways then the 109s

actually the only 109s that would do it would be the E or F models. maybe a G2 or K4 if it was light on fuel.

JU 87 would be the best choice for attack role,but they are slower then a school bus on cinder blocks lol

Also as a reminder to those who are ignorant of naval aviation,air cooled engines are the top preferance over liquid cooled,due to the durability and ease of maintenance.

Bottom line is that Germans never had a dedicated naval aviation program,there fore any ships that WG would add to the fleet would be loaded with fantasy planes.


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190s (any variant) would never get off a carrier flight deck,they had too high of wingload and required longer runways then the 109s

actually the only 109s that would do it would be the E or F models. maybe a G2 or K4 if it was light on fuel.

JU 87 would be the best choice for attack role,but they are slower then a school bus on cinder blocks lol

Also as a reminder to those who are ignorant of naval aviation,air cooled engines are the top preferance over liquid cooled,due to the durability and ease of maintenance.

Bottom line is that Germans never had a dedicated naval aviation program,there fore any ships that WG would add to the fleet would be loaded with fantasy planes.

 

It doesn't have to be 100% realistic, wargaming does balance these things out. As an example, all german dreadnoughts of WWI had torpedoes, but wargaming didn't give them that because that would be incredibly broken as a Nassau launches torpedoes at enemy ships when they get close enough and cause massive damage.

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It doesn't have to be 100% realistic, wargaming does balance these things out. As an example, all german dreadnoughts of WWI had torpedoes, but wargaming didn't give them that because that would be incredibly broken as a Nassau launches torpedoes at enemy ships when they get close enough and cause massive damage.

 

Then i want a catapult launched B29 for my NM with fat boy bomb,,,,,,,,,game over

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Then i want a catapult launched B29 for my NM with fat boy bomb,,,,,,,,,game over

 

I said it wouldn't be 100% realistic to BALANCE it against other aircraft carriers of tiers 6-7. And what you just said isn't balanced for the game in the slightest, so the point your trying to make here is invalid.

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I said it wouldn't be 100% realistic to BALANCE it against other aircraft carriers of tiers 6-7. And what you just said isn't balanced for the game in the slightest, so the point your trying to make here is invalid.

 

The point i am trying to make is that anything that is physically impossible should not be added to the game.

Balance is a joke,and we all know it.

I have no issue with removing some things from some ships in the name of balance,but adding something that never existed is another story.

Germany never developed naval aviation,so why have it in the game.


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The point i am trying to make is that anything that is physically impossible should not be added to the game.

Balance is a joke,and we all know it.

I have no issue with removing some things from some ships in the name of balance,but adding something that never existed is another story.

Germany never developed naval aviation,so why have it in the game.

 

What would you rather have as torpedo bombers? Fw-190s or crappy biplanes that were originally going to be used on the graf zeppelin?

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What would you rather have as torpedo bombers? Fw-190s or crappy biplanes that were originally going to be used on the graf zeppelin?

 

crappy bi plane of course, at least its realistic and not fiction.

with your line of thinking,American CVs should have P-51 mustangs and P-47s

while the IJN could also get N1k1s and Ki 67s

ohh yeah and while we are at it

if a RN CV comes to play lets put tempests and moquitoes on it just for [edited]n giggles. :facepalm:

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with your line of thinking,American CVs should have P-51 mustangs and P-47s

 

There was a test project to navalize the P-51, but it was cancelled after the Marines conquered enough islands that they didn't need to put the long-range escorts on carriers.

 

while the IJN could also get N1k1s and Ki 67s

 

I see no reason why the N1K4 couldn't be in-game, being a carrier-borne version of the N1K1-J land fighter, itself a variant of the N1K float fighter.

 

if a RN CV comes to play lets put tempests and moquitoes on it just for [edited]n giggles. :facepalm:

 

You mean Sea Furies and Sea Hornets?


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crappy bi plane of course, at least its realistic and not fiction.

with your line of thinking,American CVs should have P-51 mustangs and P-47s

while the IJN could also get N1k1s and Ki 67s

ohh yeah and while we are at it

if a RN CV comes to play lets put tempests and moquitoes on it just for [edited]n giggles. :facepalm:

 

I only supposed that it would be Fw-190s because it's the only german plane that has a torpedo bomber variant that isn't a biplane, and when comparing the biplanes to the stuka and bf 109, there is a very large gap between them.

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crappy bi plane of course, at least its realistic and not fiction.

with your line of thinking,American CVs should have P-51 mustangs and P-47s

while the IJN could also get N1k1s and Ki 67s

ohh yeah and while we are at it

if a RN CV comes to play lets put tempests and moquitoes on it just for [edited]n giggles. :facepalm:

 

You know what, if that's how it goes, then instead of the Fw-190 torpedo bomber, what about the Ju-88 torpedo bomber?

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You know what, if that's how it goes, then instead of the Fw-190 torpedo bomber, what about the Ju-88 torpedo bomber?

 

​I agree with Creepershark77. Ju-88 trop bomber sounds a lot better than strange looking Fw-190.

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​I agree with Creepershark77. Ju-88 trop bomber sounds a lot better than strange looking Fw-190.

 

​Never mind. I found Fw-190 with a torpedo and information.

The Fw 190 was fitted with a wide variety of weapons, and one of the most strange was the BT aerial torpedo bomb. This weapon was designed to replace the bombs used by fighter-bombers against shipping, but could also be used against land targets.
The bomb consisted of a long truncated nose cone with a cylindrical centre section and a tail unit which tapered towards the rear on which were positioned three fins. It was designed to enter the water on a flat trajectory and continue beneath without deviation at as fast a speed and for as greatest distance as possible.
There were several variants of the BT torpedo bomb (BT 400, 700, 1400) each one named keeping in mind the approximate weight (in kilos) of the weapon.
The Fw 190 was tested with all variants of this torpedo. As the BT 1400 was the largest type, the aircraft was modified for carrying this device. A special strong support was fitted under the fuselage, and the tailwheel leg had to be lengthened to ensure the ground clearance for the fins of the torpedo. Even so, the lower tail fin of the weapon had to be partially folded on its right side for to avoid bumping when the plane was on the ground.
This version was called Fw190F-8/U3. An aircraft carrying the radio call signs SS+GF was flown from June to October 1944 at Hexengrund, by Maj. Videbantt and Oblt. Heuer.
The following version, the Fw 190 F-8/R15, was fitted with an enlarged tail unit taken from a Ta 152.

 

bFw190V14_12.jpg

 

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190s (any variant) would never get off a carrier flight deck,they had too high of wingload and required longer runways then the 109s

actually the only 109s that would do it would be the E or F models. maybe a G2 or K4 if it was light on fuel.

JU 87 would be the best choice for attack role,but they are slower then a school bus on cinder blocks lol

Also as a reminder to those who are ignorant of naval aviation,air cooled engines are the top preferance over liquid cooled,due to the durability and ease of maintenance.

Bottom line is that Germans never had a dedicated naval aviation program,there fore any ships that WG would add to the fleet would be loaded with fantasy planes.

Sorry Cobia_38 u were right. sry I've doubt u.


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