1 Greg_Anderson_GA Members 1 post 3,159 battles Report post #1 Posted August 12, 2016 Why is the repair cost on the higher tiers so high? I do not enjoy playing higher tier battles, just not worth it..... WOW what are you thinking????? REDUCE THE COST OF REPAIRS ON T8 TO T10 SHIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #2 Posted August 12, 2016 I'm personally fine with the repair costs at tier VIII and IX, it's not hard to break even at tier VIII, you just need a good-ish match, and at tier IX I've been able to make a profit with some flags and a good game. I don't have a tier X, so I have no idea what it's like there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,229 [HINON] MaliceA4Thought Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 2,632 posts 6,436 battles Report post #3 Posted August 12, 2016 Search is your friend here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 [AFW-] Apewar Members 297 posts 16,826 battles Report post #4 Posted August 12, 2016 its high to help maintain mid tier population Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,605 [HINON] Nuk_ Beta Testers 3,931 posts 8,150 battles Report post #5 Posted August 12, 2016 I'm personally fine with the repair costs at tier VIII and IX, it's not hard to break even at tier VIII, you just need a good-ish match, and at tier IX I've been able to make a profit with some flags and a good game. I don't have a tier X, so I have no idea what it's like there. I have Premium, and as long as you survive and do decent, you should make a bit of money. However, if you die, expect to have your precious credits ripped away right before your very eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #6 Posted August 12, 2016 I have Premium, and as long as you survive and do decent, you should make a bit of money. However, if you die, expect to have your precious credits ripped away right before your very eyes. If you die, yeah you're probably going to lose credits. but if you survive and have a decent game, I've found that it's really hard to lose credits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
839 Show_Me_Your_Cits Beta Testers 2,589 posts 8,799 battles Report post #7 Posted August 12, 2016 I'm personally fine with the repair costs at tier VIII and IX, it's not hard to break even at tier VIII, you just need a good-ish match, and at tier IX I've been able to make a profit with some flags and a good game. I don't have a tier X, so I have no idea what it's like there. Do 100k, sink, and lose? -1-200k WITH premium! Do 100k, sink, and win? -50-100k WITH premium! It's lovely. They won't even sell Zulu flags to help offset it a bit more. Thanks WGNA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
37 [NBB] Luphelia Members 163 posts 17,383 battles Report post #8 Posted August 12, 2016 I too don't have a problem with the repair since at T10 there is nothing left to buy after that ship. Roughly, a repair bill on a Yamato or Midway is 350k, assuming a bad game you'll probably lose 250k since you always earn some credits. You can easily get this back by playing any premium from T5-8 A bigger deterrent for me is the camp play style at T10. Additionally, the recent discount to T10 ships has illustrated people do not play conservative solely b/c of the high repair as the meta did not change during this discount period. In my opinion the camp meta style is more due to the longer ranges available to people at this tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,626 battles Report post #9 Posted August 12, 2016 Outstanding first post... Would definitely read again.... BTW welcome to the forum, feel free to utilize the search option upper left...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,482 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,859 posts 27,312 battles Report post #10 Posted August 12, 2016 What are they thinking? They're thinking that by encouraging the sale of their actual product (that they earn actual money with) by making high tiers unprofitable they can ensure an income. Considering this very monetizing model has turned WG from a small garage developer into a multi-million dollar multinational AAA developer over the span of a mere 7-ish years suggests they are doing something right with this model. Plus, it ensures healthy population in the middle tiers which helps ensure the health of the game, so that's a good thing. Several ways around the 'paywall': - Buy premium time and premium ships - Get better so that you can make a profit at high tiers - Win premium time and premium ships in contests, there are always some going on - Grind for credits in your favorite tier 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 ships 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
839 Show_Me_Your_Cits Beta Testers 2,589 posts 8,799 battles Report post #11 Posted August 12, 2016 its high to help maintain mid tier population Except now it's going to murder the T8 population, since there aren't as many T9/10s and they have to get queue dumped down. People will get frustrated and go seal clubbing. See my 30% winrate from yesterday and my 900 WTR? That was from trying to play T8s and getting murdered every game. By the time I decided to hop in my 10s (and lose a bunch of credits) and start winning, there was no coming back from that streak. The nerfed repair costs need to come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,081 1Sherman Alpha Tester 6,683 posts 3,338 battles Report post #12 Posted August 12, 2016 If reducing repair costs will get my teammates to support me when I'm in my Colorado, then I'm all for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,596 [-KIA-] TenguBlade Banned 9,382 posts 29,095 battles Report post #13 Posted August 12, 2016 It's to keep idiots like the OP from making money at tiers where you shouldn't even be if you aren't good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,326 [MUDDX] CAPTMUDDXX Banned 8,144 posts 25,482 battles Report post #14 Posted August 12, 2016 the cost are high so that threads like this are posted on a daily basis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,143 Raven114 Members 2,341 posts 6,921 battles Report post #15 Posted August 12, 2016 When you demand in Cap's it gets a lot of attention, Not WG attention, but a lot of attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
649 [D6] Nachoo31 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,051 posts Report post #16 Posted August 12, 2016 I lost 50k in a tier 8 .. not running premium. I didn't cry. I jumped in my fujin and died right away. Not proving myself in a match. I logged for bed. I be back at it again tonight. Silver is silver. Its not real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
150 Cruiser_Senjo Beta Testers 1,011 posts 4,573 battles Report post #17 Posted August 12, 2016 yeah bu huu u cant make profit on tier 10 q.q ! op just grind some tier 5-6 and save a lot then go to tier 10 and waste silve thats the plan .-. ooor buy a tier 8 premium (coff coff tirptiz) and make da monis ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 [SIM] LadyJess Members 1,747 posts Report post #18 Posted August 12, 2016 Didn't think repairs to tier 8 were all that bad. Will have to try this out again. On tiers 9 & 10 yes it would be nice to reduce these a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
649 [D6] Nachoo31 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,051 posts Report post #19 Posted August 12, 2016 Didn't think repairs to tier 8 were all that bad. Will have to try this out again. On tiers 9 & 10 yes it would be nice to reduce these a bit. It could been 20k... but if you run premium consumables it adds up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,626 battles Report post #20 Posted August 12, 2016 yeah bu huu u cant make profit on tier 10 q.q ! op just grind some tier 5-6 and save a lot then go to tier 10 and waste silve thats the plan .-. ooor buy a tier 8 premium (coff coff tirptiz) and make da monis ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
150 Cruiser_Senjo Beta Testers 1,011 posts 4,573 battles Report post #21 Posted August 12, 2016 idk im bored and hate seen people that only complains .n. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 Swami504 Members 21 posts 5,666 battles Report post #22 Posted August 12, 2016 Had a great battle in the Shimakaze yesterday. The 4 DDs on my team worked together fantastically; we all had great games. I got 2 kills, 2 base captures, etc., and ended the game alive with a credit gross intake of 273k. With premium I brought home 40k; without premium I'd have lost 50k. With a base score of 1470 iirc, that's too much to have to do to make a profit without premium in my opinion. Even though I usually keep premium, non-premium should be the baseline. If I'd only gotten 1 kill and 1 base capture, and ended the game alive, that should be enough really to break even - a "decent" game, not a great one, say a base score of 1000-1100 or so. The way it is I'd need probably 1600-1700 base score to break even without premium; maybe 1300-ish to break even with premium. Again, it's too much. Oh and remember this is a DD, not a BB - the repair costs are MUCH more for my Izumo than my Shimakaze, just using this for an example. I do agree that tier 8 is fine as is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
46 B4lduR_28 Members 267 posts 4,277 battles Report post #23 Posted August 12, 2016 Since the temporary reduction on high tier repair cost got canned the game has become much more frustrating for me, since I almost exclusively play t7+ mostly t8+ even (still grinding my kiev). I do run premium and have premium credit grinders (atago, tirp) that I do well in but it is still frustrating as hell getting enough credits for a new t9 or t10 ship + modules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #24 Posted August 12, 2016 I don't really have a problem with earning credits at tier 8-9. Don't know about tier 10, but tier 10 isn't for making credits anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,228 battles Report post #25 Posted August 13, 2016 they are putting in permanent reduction on repair on the next patch I believe. 25% for t8-9 and 40% for t10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
