6,910 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 19,398 posts 36,215 battles Report post #1 Posted August 11, 2016 Because of 'Reason,' I like to keep my PvE total at a round '50' by total games played. Finished 'Grab the Torch' yesterday in co-op, and so after finishing the Daily Mission, decided to play some more just to relax, work towards evening out the total games played, and so I wouldn't stress out pointlessly like I seem to do on occasion in PvP. What a nice game to start with... This is my best PvE in Erie ever, and was played after switching back to the smaller guns for a faster rate of fire, after reading or watching a review (I don't remember which,) saying the ship actually performed better with the original guns. Of course doing well should be expected, with so many games under my belt; but doing so much damage and getting so many citadels surprised me a little; the game even beat my top game record for PvP in the Erie. Top PvE Top PvP So I ask once more; is it still clubbing if you're deleting bots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
320 SandraSmiles Members 3,014 posts Report post #2 Posted August 11, 2016 It is still clubbing. You're not there for the bots.... You're not there for the points... You're there for the stat padding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #3 Posted August 11, 2016 AI =/= seals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
131 Shatara422 Beta Testers 537 posts 2,625 battles Report post #4 Posted August 11, 2016 It is still clubbing. You're not there for the bots.... You're not there for the points... You're there for the stat padding. How do you pad stats that don't even count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
320 SandraSmiles Members 3,014 posts Report post #5 Posted August 11, 2016 How do you pad stats that don't even count? I wouldn't know! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,337 battles Report post #6 Posted August 11, 2016 It's more like kicking brain dead automatons. Scored 192k dmg in my Tirpitz the other day in PVE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,910 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 19,398 posts 36,215 battles Report post #7 Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) It is still clubbing. You're not there for the bots.... You're not there for the points... You're there for the stat padding. Only good for padding Co-op stats. Even then I don't pay as much attention to them as it seems some players do. I look at WST when I feel like it, but don't really understand how some of the number are calculated, and am completely clueless as to why the line charts fluctuate the way they do... Edited August 11, 2016 by Estimated_Prophet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
560 [SFBBW] Retnav54 Beta Testers 1,325 posts 10,907 battles Report post #8 Posted August 11, 2016 Because of 'Reason,' I like to keep my PvE total at a round '50' by total games played. Finished 'Grab the Torch' yesterday in co-op, and so after finishing the Daily Mission, decided to play some more just to relax, work towards evening out the total games played, and so I wouldn't stress out pointlessly like I seem to do on occasion in PvP. What a nice game to start with... This is my best PvE in Erie ever, and was played after switching back to the smaller guns for a faster rate of fire, after reading or watching a review (I don't remember which,) saying the ship actually performed better with the original guns. Of course doing well should be expected, with so many games under my belt; but doing so much damage and getting so many citadels surprised me a little; the game even beat my top game record for PvP in the Erie. Top PvE Top PvP So I ask once more; is it still clubbing if you're deleting bots? It was probably iChase that did the review, same one I watched a month or so back, did at the request of his Patreon supporters. They're 5"/51's, same as on the A hull Tier 5 Nicholas, 960 m/s velocity, the USN version of Russian 130 mm rail guns. Unfortunately, in 5.10, those guns are going away on the Erie, along with the other changes to Tier 1's. Seems even at Tier 1, the USN isn't allowed to have better guns than the Russians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #9 Posted August 11, 2016 May not be true in your case, but most people who "club" bots are in fact seals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
244 [GAMMA] jkirschy Members 909 posts 18,538 battles Report post #10 Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) AI =/= seals Agreed. It is still clubbing. You're not there for the bots.... You're not there for the points... You're there for the stat padding. You left out one more possible reason people might play low-tier co-op. That being that its just fun. In my experience, the matches are quick paced, people generally don't complain if you screw up, the community is congenial, and you can mint credits and free XP if you're reasonably good. So after a long, crap day at work, low-tier co-op offers a wonderful way to just relax and have some fun without worrying about things like stats and win-rates. In that respect its very much like the Jacuzzi mode Wargaming made available back in April. They're 5"/51's, same as on the A hull Tier 5 Nicholas, 960 m/s velocity, the USN version of Russian 130 mm rail guns. Unfortunately, in 5.10, those guns are going away on the Erie, along with the other changes to Tier 1's. Seems even at Tier 1, the USN isn't allowed to have better guns than the Russians. Say it isn't so. Better yet, is there information on this in the form of patch notes? Reason I'm commenting on this is I really like the Erie's 5-inch guns because they pump out the damage, are reasonably accurate, fire fast, and turn quick. I might actually sell my Erie if they did this because the 6" guns on Erie are decidedly underwhelming. Not that nerfing Erie's guns would make me play that horrid piece-of-crap that is the Orlan. I'd just devote my time in T1 to the Hashidate and Hermelin. Edited August 11, 2016 by jkirschy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,337 battles Report post #11 Posted August 11, 2016 It was probably iChase that did the review, same one I watched a month or so back, did at the request of his Patreon supporters. They're 5"/51's, same as on the A hull Tier 5 Nicholas, 960 m/s velocity, the USN version of Russian 130 mm rail guns. Unfortunately, in 5.10, those guns are going away on the Erie, along with the other changes to Tier 1's. Seems even at Tier 1, the USN isn't allowed to have better guns than the Russians. I swear. It's like they are trying to completely get rid of the 127/51. Heaven forbid a gun that can pin the ears back on an equivalent RU gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,890 [-K--] vak_ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,179 posts 10,923 battles Report post #12 Posted August 11, 2016 You're there for the stat padding. Who cares about PvE stats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
691 [LLMF] StoptheViolins Alpha Tester 2,544 posts Report post #13 Posted August 11, 2016 The lower the tier the greater the ai dispersion and more random the targeting. I've seen ai miss a Chester by a ship length at a ship length. On the plus side t1's won't have better stats than the t2 cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
131 Shatara422 Beta Testers 537 posts 2,625 battles Report post #14 Posted August 11, 2016 I swear. It's like they are trying to completely get rid of the 127/51. Heaven forbid a gun that can pin the ears back on an equivalent RU gun. I guess we have to invent time travel, go back to 1920, and tell the USN brass that they need to put the 5"/51 on everything so our pretend pixel ships can be as good as Russian ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
244 [GAMMA] jkirschy Members 909 posts 18,538 battles Report post #15 Posted August 11, 2016 I guess we have to invent time travel, go back to 1920, and tell the USN brass that they need to put the 5"/51 on everything so our pretend pixel ships can be as good as Russian ones. Or go back in time, give the USN a dual purpose 5" gun with a muzzle velocity of 1500 meters per second, a rate of fire of 100 rounds per minute, and the ability to penetrate Yamato belt-armor at 20km so that Wargaming would think the 5"/51 was a downgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
116 [Y81] BanditSE1977 Members 836 posts 4,615 battles Report post #16 Posted August 11, 2016 Got 7 kills in the Hermelin a few weeks ago in co-op,Hermelin + AP = OP! ( If I ever play it enough to get AFT is gonna be even more OP!). I'd play it in PVP if I knew we had the population and the MM was going to 'work as advertised'!Don't want to put new players off bt qrecking their early games PVE games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,414 yUPPatriots Members 3,929 posts 22,281 battles Report post #17 Posted August 11, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
