344 Mahrs Members 1,797 posts 7,977 battles Report post #1 Posted August 7, 2016 I cannot help it. I obsess over WR. I just started playing WoWS, and already the same WoT like sickness has caught me. It's hugely frustrating to play your first 50 matches with a 60% WR...and end up where I am now, just sub 50%, 150 games later. I can look at Warships Today and see that, despite my noobishness and the numerous mistakes I make, my performance is above average. In fact, if I were to dump some of the stinkers (looking at you, Wyoming and New York), my WTR would be borderline good. This highlights a reality of WoWS - if your team doesn't win, neither do you. What's a kid to do? I suppose, learning to carry is the answer. I guess that means I need to learn how to play DDs a lot better than I do now. At this rate, either my teams will start winning because I carried them...or the best I can hope for is what MM bestows upon me. I don't want to be at the mercy of MM anymore... Curse you, WG, curse you! <shakes fist meaningfully!> Ok....out of my system for now, gonna go wheel my Jeep...because otherwise I will lose my sanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
46 B4lduR_28 Members 267 posts 4,277 battles Report post #2 Posted August 7, 2016 I was a total potato for my first 500+ games, I think most non beta testers have bad stats they have to improve on after initial noobishness In the beginning I was the master of 1 kill yolo rushes and still suffer below avg survival after 2000+ games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,287 [WG-CC] SireneRacker -Members-, Members 9,101 posts 8,050 battles Report post #3 Posted August 7, 2016 Win rate is nothing I would care about. I personally would watch out for average damage and xp. Your team can't influence that one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,912 [CNO] Soshi_Sone Members 7,450 posts 23,087 battles Report post #4 Posted August 7, 2016 I think I was 37% after my first 100 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
662 [13TH] HMCS_Devilfish Members 4,901 posts 9,124 battles Report post #5 Posted August 7, 2016 Yea this game will do that to yea , learning the basics is easy learning to play as aggressively as possible and survive contributing to a win is somthing that takes time, who can range me? What side of the Island should I go on, Be aware of whos shooting at you and check the enemy ship for MM may have you fighting a Vll at full health and you a V ,zoom out after each shot and check threats, develop good habits early, its a fun game and after awhile it becomes second nature Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
255 [2GOOD] collisionSpace Members 970 posts 23,995 battles Report post #6 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) You've played 223 games at this moment, 'you know nothing, Mahrs'. By which I mean, don't stress about the win rate, learn to play well and the win rate will follow. Edited August 7, 2016 by collisionSpace 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
295 [BONKZ] Amogussy Members 888 posts 11,837 battles Report post #7 Posted August 7, 2016 The more you play the game, the more you will learn to do and the better you will do, and slowly, the better your win rate will be 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
440 [BLKHS] 11thACRColdsteel Beta Testers 1,612 posts 8,174 battles Report post #8 Posted August 7, 2016 I cannot help it. I obsess over WR. I just started playing WoWS, and already the same WoT like sickness has caught me. It's hugely frustrating to play your first 50 matches with a 60% WR...and end up where I am now, just sub 50%, 150 games later. I can look at Warships Today and see that, despite my noobishness and the numerous mistakes I make, my performance is above average. In fact, if I were to dump some of the stinkers (looking at you, Wyoming and New York), my WTR would be borderline good. This highlights a reality of WoWS - if your team doesn't win, neither do you. What's a kid to do? I suppose, learning to carry is the answer. I guess that means I need to learn how to play DDs a lot better than I do now. At this rate, either my teams will start winning because I carried them...or the best I can hope for is what MM bestows upon me. I don't want to be at the mercy of MM anymore... Curse you, WG, curse you! <shakes fist meaningfully!> Ok....out of my system for now, gonna go wheel my Jeep...because otherwise I will lose my sanity. A couple thoughts on techniques that work well to improve WR in WG products (WOT, WOWP, and WOWS): 1. Try not to use stock ships. Save up enough cash and EXP to trick out your ship before you roll it into battle. 2. Ensure you make judicious use of consummables. Not there are pften two kinds of smoke, planes, etc (one for 12k, and one for 22k). Personally, I use the 22k at this point in time. 3. In all WG products, the sniper style is generally advantageous. It's hard to get a good WR if you brawl in every ship, every time. 4. It is amazing how many battles a good player can Win simply by staying alive to the end of the battle. Don't die early being stupid, and if you're there at the end game you can pick up wins that you would otherwise not have. 5. Playing in 2 or 3 ship divisions with decent players who coordinate on voice chat or teams speak also will pump up the WR. Typically your WR will be 5-10% in divisions. Hope this helps. See you at sea! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,725 battles Report post #9 Posted August 7, 2016 I was a noob for close to initial 1,000 games. My WR did not go over 50% till the first 1,800. So what? I finally decided to apply myself, learn, get gud, understand the meta, learn how to aim and shoot with more success, and the hardest, how to do strategy, when to push and when not to. Started playing some ships more often till I got them. Started watching YT videos and paying attention, replaying gun and torpedo aiming sections. Then it clicked. Lately I started Divisioning often. Got a mic. My game improved. If you play with a stronger player who tells you stop there, don't go past that island because. You learn fast that way. I am still average, but my numbers have improved and WTR/WR are on the green. I am getting a little better every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,287 [WG-CC] SireneRacker -Members-, Members 9,101 posts 8,050 battles Report post #10 Posted August 7, 2016 A general idea would be that you unlock the Training room via mods and train how to handle planes and long range shots there. If you need a sparring partner give me a call Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
114 Vinidoanker Members 938 posts 16,048 battles Report post #11 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) Battles 3792 Winrate 52.43 % Cant get past 53% about 2-3 month.. but never give up except service cost too much in high tier.. Edited August 7, 2016 by bandits86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [B2P] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 44,054 battles Report post #12 Posted August 7, 2016 After about 2000 games I was 42% win rate. So don't feel bad. Things will definitely get better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
109 Alien_Observer Beta Testers 297 posts 15,974 battles Report post #13 Posted August 7, 2016 Just play the game and enjoy yourself. WR aside,the less you worry about it, the more fun the game becomes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 [-STAR] fswaluszko Members 72 posts 15,297 battles Report post #14 Posted August 7, 2016 I dont care about WR, i play all my ships and all lines. Some ships i hate in the grind process, but i play it anyway, that put my numbers very low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [SCCC] Peregrinas Members 3,181 posts 17,727 battles Report post #15 Posted August 7, 2016 Win rate is nothing I would care about. I personally would watch out for average damage and xp. Your team can't influence that one Xp is influenced by win rate because you get +50% xp for winning. So having a streak of bad teams will lower your average xp, even if your performance remained the same or even increased. Overall though, the best statistics come from large data pools. A beginner doesn't have too many battles and their statistics are easily influenced by lucky/unlucky streaks and will fluctuate a lot until many more battles are achieved. To the OP, this means to not care too much about the statistics for now. Learn the game, get better, and lastly, have fun doing it before worrying too much about stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
552 [NDA] InvalidKey Alpha Tester 1,658 posts 6,794 battles Report post #16 Posted August 7, 2016 I think I was 37% after my first 100 games. Here here! me too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
344 Mahrs Members 1,797 posts 7,977 battles Report post #17 Posted August 7, 2016 You've played 223 games at this moment, 'you know nothing, Mahrs'. By which I mean, don't stress about the win rate, learn to play well and the win rate will follow. I am not sure if you were going Game of Thrones or Star Wars...or something else. Thing is, I know you're right...I KNOW IT...and yet...<more meaningful shaking of fist...also, perhaps, teeth gnashing> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
344 Mahrs Members 1,797 posts 7,977 battles Report post #18 Posted August 7, 2016 A general idea would be that you unlock the Training room via mods and train how to handle planes and long range shots there. If you need a sparring partner give me a call Hmm...yes...training room, eh? I suppose I need to finally pull the trigger on a mod. I have wanted a scaling crosshair from day 1 (for those of you who are shooters, a first focal plane optic is where it's at!). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
81 BubbleRapper Members 645 posts 2,685 battles Report post #19 Posted August 7, 2016 Although I obviously try my best to win each game, I stopped caring about the actual win rate stat the minute I had my first random massive string of defeats where it made no difference how I did personally. Those absurd defeat marathons that happen sometimes are soul crushing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
176 [COOP] UnseenSpectacle Members 812 posts 5,604 battles Report post #20 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) First thing I would recommend is don't try to "learn to carry." Carrying isn't something you set out to do; It is something that happens over the course of a match. Even then, sometimes no matter how hard you end up carrying, you will lose. The biggest thing to learn in this game is learning the difference between reckless aggression and effective aggression. Reckless aggression is akin to YOLO charging at the beginning of a match and perhaps getting a single kill before you meet Davey Jones. Effective aggression is knowing when to exploit mistakes of your enemy and taking the calculated risk that you can do much more damage to them than they can to you. It is also knowing your weapons and what weapon will be most effective for the job. Effective aggression is directly tied to the next most important skill to learn. That skill is survival. If you are unable to survive a battle, you are unable to dictate the outcome. When you die in battle, the best you can realistically hope in solo queue is a 50-50 shot at winning over the long term. If you are able to survive and affect the outcome, that is when you start to be able to clear 50% WR easily. To increase your survival, you need to know what engagements are favorable, when to engage/disengage, how to angle your ship, general map positioning, and a whole host of other factors. Survival by itself isn't the end all be all though. If you just sail around the edge of the map or hang back in spawn and never engage the enemy, you are effectively dead to your team. If you can survive while learning to do damage that is where you make an impact. A ship on 400 health can still do as much damage per salvo as a ship on full health. Overall, you are doing pretty well for only having 223 games under your belt. Keep focusing on being a better player in general and your WR, damage, and experience will follow. Edited August 7, 2016 by UnseenSpectacle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
572 [O7] Kevik70 [O7] Beta Testers 1,654 posts 10,699 battles Report post #21 Posted August 7, 2016 Yeah I'd say don't worry about it too much yet. Focus on your own gameplay and try to improve yourself by watching good players play (like on You Tube, Mighty Jingles is pretty good to watch) Overall you have so few games that you can easily change it for the better with a good bit of hard work, also find some good players to div up with helps too. My win rate dropped from 55% to 52% 2 months ago because I just couldn't figure out how to play the Mahan right, I had maybe 300 games at the time. But I got past the Mahan and improved, found a lot of great guys to play with and that 52% went away very quickly. (I have 56% win rate solo) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
391 Venom81 Members 1,840 posts 2,716 battles Report post #22 Posted August 7, 2016 It's how anyone who strives to do well in something will feel unfortunately. You can't know your being graded on something and not, at the very least, care a little. Well, I can't anyways. It's npnp, just blow crapup. Everything will be ok. You'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
164 [CAG-1] Wyngs_2015 Members 1,091 posts 4,406 battles Report post #23 Posted August 7, 2016 What I have always tried to do for a long time is to consistently be in the top 3rd of my team, which probably 70-80 percent of the time I am. Much prefer being in the top 3, win or lose. Maybe take that approach. WR made me crazy and not enjoy the game in Random when I started paying too much attention to it. So much so that I stopped playing so much for a while, now am a bit rusty. You just cant control what other people do. That said, there are some thing you can do if you pay attention. Ive made note of what time of day the better players are on and what days of the week. In my area, weekends are a complete crap shoot. I guess that's when the kiddies are on, IDK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 [TIKI_] Lightning_Lad64 Beta Testers 504 posts 6,462 battles Report post #24 Posted August 7, 2016 Although I obviously try my best to win each game, I stopped caring about the actual win rate stat the minute I had my first random massive string of defeats where it made no difference how I did personally. Those absurd defeat marathons that happen sometimes are soul crushing. going through one of those right now. My game has completely fallen off a cliff. Part of it is full potato teams, but I have been God-awfu! Myself in lot of them.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
391 Venom81 Members 1,840 posts 2,716 battles Report post #25 Posted August 7, 2016 going through one of those right now. My game has completely fallen off a cliff. Part of it is full potato teams, but I have been God-awfu! Myself in lot of them.. Step away. Go do something else. Playing emotionally leads to even more mistakes, which makes you more emotional. It's a vicious cycle. After some people here explained this to me, I've done just that, and it does help. Sometimes, the game is just NOT fun. So why even play it? Life's too short. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites