2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #1 Posted August 3, 2016 Well, just doing my weekly file backup (not to be confused with my SSD backup, every day at 5:00).. In the middle of backup, elapsed time about two hours.. Watching Pirates of the Caribbean At Worlds End (because you can never watch it once and not watch it again.. and again. And then I hear my CPU fan running hard and I see Settings in the Task manager taking up CPU and Network usage.. I think "Did windows seriously just download the next big update?" Well, it did/is. ..Why you do this? My CPU is running at a nice and toasty 83 degree celsius. GG, CPU/MOB life expectancy. I ain't canceling no backup, and there ain't no option to cancel this update. Because, you know Microsoft and their force updates. *sigh* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #2 Posted August 3, 2016 Didn't the free offer end four days ago? Or am I imagining things? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
496 Stratego89 Members 2,046 posts 2,264 battles Report post #3 Posted August 3, 2016 And this is why I refuse to use Windows 10. Just like I said from day 1, the free update was a trap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #4 Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) Didn't the free offer end four days ago? Or am I imagining things? I already have Windows 10, it's just doing the 'Windows 10 Anniversary' update. And this is why I refuse to use Windows 10. Just like I said from day 1, the free update was a trap. I think Windows 10 is great! But the force-update is pretty damn annoying.. Edited August 3, 2016 by DarthDoge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
822 BURN_Miner Members 3,010 posts 10,193 battles Report post #5 Posted August 3, 2016 Yup, was just logging in (had to relog in and am trying to, well "was" trying to restore everything) when you posted the Anniversary update comment, but was going to say the exact same thing. With that said, it "could" be worse Darth. No really, it could. lol At the moment, I am still dealing with the stuttering/rubber-banding issue from 5.7 and am actively in contact with Customer Support. However, I have reinstalled Windows 10 Pro twice now in hopes that it was some form of corrupt file on that end due to some of the dxdiag reports I have been getting. Unfortunately, upon my last installation and checking to see if that was a fix, a memory leak within World of Warships popped "back" up. I say "back" up as it went away when the Anniversary update went through earlier today, but for some odd reason, came back about 45 minutes ago... /bangs head on brick wall..... Yup, with each new installation, the dxdiag reports keep fluctuating on the errors for some unknown reason. System specs are in my signature. It could always be worse. lol ---------------EVR Power Information---------------Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality) Quality Flags: 2576 Enabled: Force throttling Allow half deinterlace Allow scaling Decode Power Usage: 100 Balanced Flags: 1424 Enabled: Force throttling Allow batching Force half deinterlace Force scaling Decode Power Usage: 50 PowerFlags: 1424 Enabled: Force throttling Allow batching Force half deinterlace Force scaling Decode Power Usage: 0 ---------------Diagnostics--------------- Windows Error Reporting:+++ WER0 +++:Fault bucket 129167266702, type 5 Event Name: RADAR_PRE_LEAK_WOW64 Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: WorldOfWarships.exe P2: 0.5.9.0 P3: 10.0.14393.2.0.0 P4: P5: P6: P7: P8: P9: P10: +++ WER1 +++:Fault bucket 129146849103, type 5 Event Name: CLR20r3 Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: MSI_ActiveX_Service.exe P2: 1.0.0.6 P3: 574e961c P4: System.Management P5: 4.6.1586.0 P6: 575a1410 P7: 8c P8: 3f P9: System.Management.Management P10: +++ WER2 +++:Fault bucket 129146849103, type 5 Event Name: CLR20r3 Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: MSI_ActiveX_Service.exe P2: 1.0.0.6 P3: 574e961c P4: System.Management P5: 4.6.1586.0 P6: 575a1410 P7: 8c P8: 3f P9: System.Management.Management P10: +++ WER3 +++:Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: PnPGenericDriverFound Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: x64 P2: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0900&SUBSYS_1462D976&REV_1000 P3: P4: P5: P6: P7: P8: P9: P10: +++ WER4 +++:Fault bucket 116189965988, type 5 Event Name: BEX64 Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: NvStreamNetworkService.exe P2: 7.1.2084.9592 P3: 57605ac0 P4: NvMdnsPlugin.dll_unloaded P5: 0.0.0.0 P6: 57605fbb P7: 00000000000d45a0 P8: c0000005 P9: 0000000000000008 P10: +++ WER5 +++:Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: PnPGenericDriverFound Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: x64 P2: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0900&SUBSYS_1462D976&REV_1000 P3: P4: P5: P6: P7: P8: P9: P10: +++ WER6 +++:Fault bucket 126739585645, type 5 Event Name: MpTelemetry Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: unspecified P2: HardeningTelemetry P3: HardeningTelemetryDisableAS P4: 4.10.14393.0 P5: unspecified P6: unspecified P7: unspecified P8: P9: P10: +++ WER7 +++:Fault bucket 126739585453, type 5 Event Name: MpTelemetry Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: unspecified P2: HardeningTelemetry P3: HardeningTelemetryDisableAV P4: 4.10.14393.0 P5: unspecified P6: unspecified P7: unspecified P8: P9: P10: +++ WER8 +++:Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: MpTelemetry Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: unspecified P2: HardeningTelemetry P3: HardeningTelemetryDisableAS P4: 4.10.14393.0 P5: unspecified P6: unspecified P7: unspecified P8: P9: P10: +++ WER9 +++:Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: MpTelemetry Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: unspecified P2: HardeningTelemetry P3: HardeningTelemetryDisableAV P4: 4.10.14393.0 P5: unspecified P6: unspecified P7: unspecified P8: P9: P10: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
853 Xero_Snake Members 5,165 posts 60 battles Report post #6 Posted August 3, 2016 It's true. Win 10 runs hotter than it used to on Win 8.1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
478 Final_Spark Beta Testers 2,440 posts 8,653 battles Report post #7 Posted August 3, 2016 You can't schedule the Windows update to a more convenient time? Or even better, have it go through the motions when you're shutting down the PC. I'm just a Windows 7 pleb, but any sort of updates have not bothered me. Heck, I've never gotten anything dealing with Windows 10 for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
416 Mezurashi -Members- 1,117 posts 3,733 battles Report post #8 Posted August 3, 2016 You can't schedule the Windows update to a more convenient time? Or even better, have it go through the motions when you're shutting down the PC. I'm just a Windows 7 pleb, but any sort of updates have not bothered me. Heck, I've never gotten anything dealing with Windows 10 for some reason. You can't. There are no settings to change the update. Microsoft built it in to update whenever they want. It's annoying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #9 Posted August 3, 2016 Yup, was just logging in (had to relog in and am trying to, well "was" trying to restore everything) when you posted the Anniversary update comment, but was going to say the exact same thing. With that said, it "could" be worse Darth. No really, it could. lol At the moment, I am still dealing with the stuttering/rubber-banding issue from 5.7 and am actively in contact with Customer Support. However, I have reinstalled Windows 10 Pro twice now in hopes that it was some form of corrupt file on that end due to some of the dxdiag reports I have been getting. Unfortunately, upon my last installation and checking to see if that was a fix, a memory leak within World of Warships popped "back" up. I say "back" up as it went away when the Anniversary update went through earlier today, but for some odd reason, came back about 45 minutes ago... /bangs head on brick wall..... Yup, with each new installation, the dxdiag reports keep fluctuating on the errors for some unknown reason. System specs are in my signature. It could always be worse. lol ---------------EVR Power Information---------------Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality) Quality Flags: 2576 Enabled: Force throttling Allow half deinterlace Allow scaling Decode Power Usage: 100 Balanced Flags: 1424 Enabled: Force throttling Allow batching Force half deinterlace Force scaling Decode Power Usage: 50 PowerFlags: 1424 Enabled: Force throttling Allow batching Force half deinterlace Force scaling Decode Power Usage: 0 ---------------Diagnostics--------------- Windows Error Reporting:+++ WER0 +++:Fault bucket 129167266702, type 5 Event Name: RADAR_PRE_LEAK_WOW64 Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: WorldOfWarships.exe P2: 0.5.9.0 P3: 10.0.14393.2.0.0 P4: P5: P6: P7: P8: P9: P10: +++ WER1 +++:Fault bucket 129146849103, type 5 Event Name: CLR20r3 Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: MSI_ActiveX_Service.exe P2: 1.0.0.6 P3: 574e961c P4: System.Management P5: 4.6.1586.0 P6: 575a1410 P7: 8c P8: 3f P9: System.Management.Management P10: +++ WER2 +++:Fault bucket 129146849103, type 5 Event Name: CLR20r3 Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: MSI_ActiveX_Service.exe P2: 1.0.0.6 P3: 574e961c P4: System.Management P5: 4.6.1586.0 P6: 575a1410 P7: 8c P8: 3f P9: System.Management.Management P10: +++ WER3 +++:Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: PnPGenericDriverFound Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: x64 P2: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0900&SUBSYS_1462D976&REV_1000 P3: P4: P5: P6: P7: P8: P9: P10: +++ WER4 +++:Fault bucket 116189965988, type 5 Event Name: BEX64 Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: NvStreamNetworkService.exe P2: 7.1.2084.9592 P3: 57605ac0 P4: NvMdnsPlugin.dll_unloaded P5: 0.0.0.0 P6: 57605fbb P7: 00000000000d45a0 P8: c0000005 P9: 0000000000000008 P10: +++ WER5 +++:Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: PnPGenericDriverFound Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: x64 P2: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0900&SUBSYS_1462D976&REV_1000 P3: P4: P5: P6: P7: P8: P9: P10: +++ WER6 +++:Fault bucket 126739585645, type 5 Event Name: MpTelemetry Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: unspecified P2: HardeningTelemetry P3: HardeningTelemetryDisableAS P4: 4.10.14393.0 P5: unspecified P6: unspecified P7: unspecified P8: P9: P10: +++ WER7 +++:Fault bucket 126739585453, type 5 Event Name: MpTelemetry Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: unspecified P2: HardeningTelemetry P3: HardeningTelemetryDisableAV P4: 4.10.14393.0 P5: unspecified P6: unspecified P7: unspecified P8: P9: P10: +++ WER8 +++:Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: MpTelemetry Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: unspecified P2: HardeningTelemetry P3: HardeningTelemetryDisableAS P4: 4.10.14393.0 P5: unspecified P6: unspecified P7: unspecified P8: P9: P10: +++ WER9 +++:Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: MpTelemetry Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: unspecified P2: HardeningTelemetry P3: HardeningTelemetryDisableAV P4: 4.10.14393.0 P5: unspecified P6: unspecified P7: unspecified P8: P9: P10: Definitely client side, I'd just hope for the next update to fix the annoying stutters. You can't schedule the Windows update to a more convenient time? Or even better, have it go through the motions when you're shutting down the PC. I'm just a Windows 7 pleb, but any sort of updates have not bothered me. Heck, I've never gotten anything dealing with Windows 10 for some reason. Unfortunately, when an update is pushed and your computer detects it as available, it will download and install. It's true. Win 10 runs hotter than it used to on Win 8.1. *sizzle* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #10 Posted August 3, 2016 GG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
31 grogh Members 204 posts 4,698 battles Report post #11 Posted August 3, 2016 You can't. There are no settings to change the update. Microsoft built it in to update whenever they want. It's annoying. You can, I have mine set to notify me of updates and I choose when to D/L and install them. I can even postpone it indefinitely if I don't mind it popping up once a day to remind me (no matter what I am doing at the time grrrrr). It's done with the group policy editor. That's for the Pro, Enterprise, or Educational editions. If you have the Home edition it's not so easy unless you're on a WiFi connection (not Ethernet). Then just tell Windows your WiFi is a metered connection. Google is your friend, but here's the first thing to look at: http://www.guidingtech.com/48828/delay-disable-mandatory-updates-windows-10/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #12 Posted August 3, 2016 I already have Windows 10, it's just doing the 'Windows 10 Anniversary' update. I think Windows 10 is great! But the force-update is pretty damn annoying.. Oh, it's been that long since Windows 10 has been out? I'm still on Windows 8.1... Why can't you change the force-update settings? I had to do some googling and messing around, but now Windows only updates if I want it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
437 [ANKER] Combined_Fleet_HQ Members 1,196 posts 6,289 battles Report post #13 Posted August 3, 2016 Seems like your PC...is at wit's end.... YEEAAAAHHHHHH ahem...excuse me... ~HQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #14 Posted August 3, 2016 Seems like your PC...is at wit's end.... YEEAAAAHHHHHH ahem...excuse me... ~HQ Ah.... *Clap* ... Get out. XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
221 Carrier_Graf_Zeppelin Beta Testers 803 posts 5,091 battles Report post #15 Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) I believe only windows 10 pro can delay or postpone updates. Reason being as its for businesses and you know how company's lag behind with keeping programs up to date with operating system updates. The company my dad works for programs only ran on windows XP when windows 7 was the newest operating system and non of the company programs would run on it. They just switched over to 7 a little bit ago. Also you can't afford to have a glitch shutdown your computers from a bad update being forced downloaded in the middle of the night. Edited August 3, 2016 by Carrier_Graf_Zeppelin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
184 [WHS] TheBlackWind Beta Testers 1,074 posts 14,814 battles Report post #16 Posted August 3, 2016 Thumbs up for At Worlds End. Only the best movie ever. Also there's something wrong with your CPU, or it's an AMD. The latter would make me cry. For you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
563 [FOXEH] HowitzerBlitzer [FOXEH] Members 1,983 posts 3,253 battles Report post #17 Posted August 3, 2016 The only reason to upgrade to Windows 10 is if you were running 8.1, otherwise if you are on 7 or 8.2 I'd say not to upgrade. Although I'm running Windows 10 and never had a problem... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #18 Posted August 3, 2016 You can't. There are no settings to change the update. Microsoft built it in to update whenever they want. It's annoying. This is not completely correct. Some Windows 10 editions let you defer upgrades to your PC. When you defer upgrades, new Windows features won’t be downloaded or installed for several months. Deferring upgrades doesn’t affect security updates. Note that deferring upgrades will prevent you from getting the latest Windows features as soon as they’re available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #19 Posted August 3, 2016 I believe only windows 10 pro can delay or postpone updates. Reason being as its for businesses and you know how company's lag behind with keeping programs up to date with operating system updates. The company my dad works for programs only ran on windows XP when windows 7 was the newest operating system and non of the company programs would run on it. They just switched over to 7 a little bit ago. Also you can't afford to have a glitch shutdown your computers from a bad update being forced downloaded in the middle of the night. IT people (and others) normally prefer not to be an early or first adopter of any software updates. If it is currently working, don't break it. Depending on the tasks, systems may not need to be updated to the lastest/greatest OS. Or they are legacy systems with a ka-zillion lines of undocumented code or worse yet, no source code exists... or if it does exist it is not the source code for the current production "objects". There are simply too many ways to break software. Microsoft is going to learn the hard way on this OS... it may take a number of lawsuits or a ton of bad publicity... but I would suggest that within a year's time, much of what they are cramming down folks throats right now will involve an about face. Time will tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
31 grogh Members 204 posts 4,698 battles Report post #20 Posted August 3, 2016 Windows 10 Pro, Enterprise, and Educational editions can turn it off fairly easily. Home Edition can also but it requires some workarounds. See the link in post #11. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #21 Posted August 3, 2016 Thumbs up for At Worlds End. Only the best movie ever. Also there's something wrong with your CPU, or it's an AMD. The latter would make me cry. For you. The only thing wrong with my CPU is it's old. I5-2320 with GTX 950 at max settings with google chrome open + macrium reflect (backup software) will make any older CPU struggle to chooch. Should reapply thermal paste tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
26 [U-P] Long_Range_Sniper Members 87 posts 18,644 battles Report post #22 Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) I tried running update 3 times today, each failed after going through the entire process with an obscure error...possibly related to incompatible network Broadcom drivers which incidentally were working on Windows 10 for a year so I don't get that at all. I had upgraded my Win 8.1 to Windows 10 last summer so I decided maybe it was time to do a clean install as I had already just made a full image backup. I ran my keyfinder software first and noted down my 'new' Windows 10 Pro activation code because I had no intention of spending my time on the phone with Microsoft Support asking them for it. I formatted my SSD and did a clean install off the latest 'Anniversary' release. The only oddity was having to import the four internal data drives as they were listed as 'foreign'. However, now all my software is reinstalled and all is working perfectly fine. The PC boots up amazingly fast. My system hardware is only a couple of years old but the OS was a kludge of all the upgrades and updates from Win 7 to Win 8 to Win 8.1 and then Win 10. So this was long overdue. Edited August 3, 2016 by Long_Range_Sniper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
320 [AARG] Adm_Nate_Ellis937 Beta Testers 1,249 posts Report post #23 Posted August 3, 2016 I'd suggest looking at a water cooler. My APU ran in the mid 80s, but when i got the cooler from Corsair, it runs in the low 30s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,466 [KTKM] IKU19 Beta Testers 4,633 posts 4,078 battles Report post #24 Posted August 3, 2016 What worries me is that for me the update downloaded in about 3 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #25 Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) What worries me is that for me the update downloaded in about 3 seconds. Either GigaBit internet or it downloaded when you were not looking. I'd suggest looking at a water cooler. My APU ran in the mid 80s, but when i got the cooler from Corsair, it runs in the low 30s. Water cooling is.. cool - mind the pun. But I have a little worry that something bad would happen e.g. leaks. Edited August 3, 2016 by DarthDoge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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