26 [RAVEN] Allan_DeGroot Members 141 posts 12,769 battles Report post #1 Posted August 3, 2016 This ship (Kirov) simply SUCKS I would consider it amazing if I could ever survive long enough to fire a third salvo! What I want the apology for is "frustrating game play" Anyone with me on this? I need a drink! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,481 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,858 posts 27,302 battles Report post #2 Posted August 3, 2016 Your inability to make the Kirov work is not the fault of the ship. 24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
53 [DSW] PlayerAltF4 Members 154 posts 4,645 battles Report post #3 Posted August 3, 2016 Sounds like a case of user error. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,080 1Sherman Alpha Tester 6,683 posts 3,338 battles Report post #4 Posted August 3, 2016 Nope. My Kirov has taken on BBs single-handedly at point blank range and won. Also, this video: 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #5 Posted August 3, 2016 Wow, this is a great example of entitlement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #6 Posted August 3, 2016 User Error. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
176 [COOP] UnseenSpectacle Members 812 posts 5,604 battles Report post #7 Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) I have a love/hate relationship with this ship. When she works, she is an absolute terror. However, when she doesn't it's an absolute chore to play her and generally leaves me feeling unsatisfied. Even though my stats in her were okay, I can say I didn't enjoy the play style I needed to use to make the ship the most effective. Though the Kirov can be painful at times, the Budyonny is well worth dealing with Kirov's unique charms. Lastly, even on its' worst day, the Kirov "grind" is infinitely better than the Karlsruhe grind. Edited August 3, 2016 by UnseenSpectacle 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,043 [SALTY] Ace_04 Members 8,932 posts 18,337 battles Report post #8 Posted August 3, 2016 Nope. My Kirov has taken on BBs single-handedly at point blank range and won. Also, this video: Not sure where it came from, but that video frightens me.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 anonym_76iqf0dp5Wvy Members 759 posts Report post #9 Posted August 3, 2016 mahahahaha I Was right after all. Its never the ship, its the player. bacon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #10 Posted August 3, 2016 Lol the Kirov is the most OP non-premium tier V. You just can't play it evidently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
89 [SCCC] AkiraKurai Members 717 posts 23,578 battles Report post #11 Posted August 3, 2016 Not sure where it came from, but that video frightens me.... Kick [edited]2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,337 battles Report post #12 Posted August 3, 2016 This ship (Kirov) simply SUCKS I would consider it amazing if I could ever survive long enough to fire a third salvo! What I want the apology for is "frustrating game play" Anyone with me on this? I need a drink! Sounds like a PBKAC error to me. Those are my stats with it. And i'm a slightly above average player. You can't make it work, PBKAC. And not to be a complete jerk, but looking at your overall statistics, it's not a wonder why you blame the ship instead of your own skills my friend. At the risk of being a complete jerk, I'd highly suggest you start learning how to really play the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
101 [ARP] _Dobrynja_ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 206 posts 8,017 battles Report post #13 Posted August 3, 2016 Point your riot shield at the enemy and critadels all day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
227 devastator5000 Members 1,719 posts 4,106 battles Report post #14 Posted August 3, 2016 Here is a tip, don't show broadside, fire AP against broadside cruisers, and always have backup to support yoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
81 BubbleRapper Members 645 posts 2,685 battles Report post #15 Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) idk if Kirov was nerfed but I remember that it was really good when the Russian cruisers first came out. (I don't have it anymore so I can't compare) Edited August 3, 2016 by BubbleRapper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
944 Gavroche_ Members 2,304 posts 11,472 battles Report post #16 Posted August 3, 2016 Kirov is actually better than Murmansk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
522 [IN3PT] El_Judarino Beta Testers 1,703 posts 6,511 battles Report post #17 Posted August 3, 2016 It is something of a play style change, but keep your Kirov at range and always "serpentine" so nobody gets a clean shot at your tinfoil armored citadel. If you find yourself too close to BB and turning away would only open you up to a multi shot citadel removal procedure, go straight at the BB full speed, wait for him to waste a shot at your slender bow (RNGesus will usually bless this maneuver ) then swing out enough to torp him to oblivion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9 [SAMMI] Mercury49 Members 86 posts 1,995 battles Report post #18 Posted August 3, 2016 Just bought the ship and either my third of fourth game I had 75k damage. I am very impressed by it, especially since I am not a cruiser player. Might keep the grind going and go up the Russian cruiser line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 [SIM] LadyJess Members 1,747 posts Report post #19 Posted August 3, 2016 I've found the Kirov to be not all that bad as compared to some others that i hate but, a friend of mine loves. The Kirov can do quite well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
176 [COOP] UnseenSpectacle Members 812 posts 5,604 battles Report post #20 Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) idk if Kirov was nerfed but I remember that it was really good when the Russian cruisers first came out. (I don't have it anymore so I can't compare) Kirov is still really good. It just has a very specific play style required to maximize her potential. She is one of the few non-BBs I play where this checklist springs to mind constantly. Edited August 3, 2016 by UnseenSpectacle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
837 Fletcher7_1944 Members 4,680 posts Report post #21 Posted August 3, 2016 I know what you mean, OP. My first few battles ended abruptly in sudden fiery explosions... After that, I learned to be much more cautious!! I think Russia was jealous of Germany's glass cannon title, and this was their attempt to steal it. Just think of it as good practice for playing Pepsi. I will say that I love seeing these ships when I'm in Nurnburg! Lots of available citadels! So, lesson #2 of Kirov: Avoid German cruisers- they have your number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,337 battles Report post #22 Posted August 3, 2016 I know what you mean, OP. My first few battles ended abruptly in sudden fiery explosions... After that, I learned to be much more cautious!! I think Russia was jealous of Germany's glass cannon title, and this was their attempt to steal it. Just think of it as good practice for playing Pepsi. I will say that I love seeing these ships when I'm in Nurnburg! Lots of available citadels! So, lesson #2 of Kirov: Avoid German cruisers- they have your number. Naaa. Rule 2 of Russian cruisers, Kill them first. If RU cruisers mid tiers are made from citadels, KM cruisers are nothing BUT citadels. You sneeze on that ship with AP and watch it explode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,850 [AXANR] poeticmotion Members 3,650 posts 23,502 battles Report post #23 Posted August 3, 2016 https://na.warships.today/vehicle/4184782288/Kirov Kirov looks fine. Maybe you should personally apologize to WG for your sense of entitlement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,605 [HINON] Nuk_ Beta Testers 3,931 posts 8,150 battles Report post #24 Posted August 3, 2016 k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #25 Posted August 3, 2016 I'm not WG staff by any stretch of the imagination, but I'll offer my personal apology anyway. I'm sorry, OP. I'm sorry that you are evidently yet to learn how to play Kirov. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites