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How are the German Cruisers after tier 6?

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So, if you know me, all I do is whine and whine about shell velocity this shell velocity that.

Hence, I've decided to pick up German Cruisers where I left off. Since they have MONSTER Shell Velocity, and their AP is vicious even to BBs. I've messed up a few New Mexicos already. After a couple games I must say that even stock I'm enjoying Nuremburg a lot! So, how do the rest of the German Cruisers compare to Nuremburg?

 

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they are finally worth playing

 

Edit: the yorck kind of feels like a battle cruiser. I citadel'd a colorado at 7km. that felt nice. ive had more success in it being 10km or less otherwise the shell travel time seems to increase significantly over longer distances. it could all be in my head.  It felt flat arcs to about 10km then felt like i was in an atlanta at 12+km.

 

I hated the konigs and nurn. Yorck was the first one ive had fun with.

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Yorck is meh due to bad shell velocity, whereas Hipper, Roon, and Hindenberg have stupidly good AP pen and good AA.

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Everyone hates the Yorck, the Hipper is forgettable, the Roon is the most well-loved tier 9 CA, and the Hindenburg has god-level AP that can go toe to toe with even the Moskva's AP.

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Everyone hates the Yorck, the Hipper is forgettable, the Roon is the most well-loved tier 9 CA, and the Hindenburg has god-level AP that can go toe to toe with even the Moskva's AP.

There's a reason the "Battleship Hindenburg" joke exists, and yeah, if the rumors about Eugen coming out as a premium are true, no reason to keep the Hipper.

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Was just in a T10 match where a Hindenburg was cutting loose. Er Mah Gawd - the rate of fire on that thing... wow... and his round were very accurate. I only wish he'd been firing AP instead of HE and would have engaged like that earlier. 

 

We might have won :-) 

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Personally I enjoyed the Yorck. You do need to keep zigzagging though, and your turrets are sort of slow. I found the AP to be very unreliable, but better results are achieved under 10km, as Zhoyzu mentioned. It seemed that my games were either ~10k damage, or 50k+. Have patience, watch your mini map, and the ship can be a blast. Lose that awareness or grow impatient, and the ship will punish you.

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So, if you know me, all I do is whine and whine about shell velocity this shell velocity that.

Hence, I've decided to pick up German Cruisers where I left off. Since they have MONSTER Shell Velocity, and their AP is vicious even to BBs. I've messed up a few New Mexicos already. After a couple games I must say that even stock I'm enjoying Nuremburg a lot! So, how do the rest of the German Cruisers compare to Nuremburg?

 

 

Usable armor from the Yorck and up, atleast vs 8 inch fire. But battleships still delete them, but hey that's cruiser vs BB. But it's not like konisberg and Nurnberg if you get sneezed on and something breaks.

 

Though I will warn you Yorck is completely backwards from the whole line. The AP is rather weak while the HE is quite strong.

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I don't see why people hate the Yorck so much. It's a pretty easy ship to play IMO. Stay farish away, use HE on pretty much everything until it's closer tan 7km or so. Then use AP on broadsides and watch the citadels make people die.

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The German ships are only strong if you can catch peoples' broadsides with AP. Their AP penetration is actually seriously lacking and unreliable against angled ships. The one upside the German ships do have is their high RPM, so the damage can rack up quickly if you're up against captains who are unaware of your presence.

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Yorck has a worse reputation than it deserves.

 

The chief failing is that it's AP shell is a ww1 era design with poor aerodynamics. I'm pretty sure it has a faster muzzle velocity than the HE round, but the HE round is a WW2 era shell which retains velocity better (and flies quite flat even at max range, unlike the AP which goes Cleveland at max).

 

I found 10km to be the switch point between shell types (AP under 10, HE over).

 

I'm enjoying Hipper right now, though, like all tier 8 CAs, one must be ever paranoid about the locations of red BBs, it does have good armor against 8" and smaller shells.

 

Consensus seems to favor Roon a lot and Hindy almost as much, I'm definitely looking forward to them

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Konigsberg is so much fun, now  that the rear turrets are 360 degrees...
Angling either side is  so much dam fun now, I started playing it again...
Nurn was ok...
Those two make for the best Kiting ships in game... 

being chased in a Konig by a Wyoming or Aoba is so much dam fun!!!!

 


The Yorck? Meh, it wasn't so bad...
Hipper was a lot of fun... but now I have the ROON, and as soon as the capt is trained in the dirp, I will relish in it....
I loved it in the test server, and it is one of the best cruisers in the game....especially for it's tier/.././
Hindy was a crap ton of fun too, and cannot wait to get to her.....
(after I  to get the ZAO and Moskva of course)
 

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Yorck (VII) stands out like a sore thumb. Always use HE and get into fighting retreats. You'll do fine.

 

Admiral Hipster (VIII) has good AP and decent survivability for the tier. Don't expect to be able to carry, but it's fun to obliterate a cruiser every now and then.

 

Roon (IX) is pretty good overall and very tough, but once again her versatility is hurt by her weak HE.

 

Hindenburg (X) was statistically the second worst CA at her tier behind Des Moines last time I checked. She is essentially an even tougher version of Roon with more AP firepower. As such, she's just as inflexible. Her main issue is that all other tier X cruisers are a giant leap from tier IX, but Hiundenburg is merely a solid incremental improvement.

 

Overall impression: OK. Not bad, not great.

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