Bring Your Bias!!! (RU Bias vs NA Bias)

[Terrible_Turtle]

Happy Monday! Time for our weekly poll and troll. 

 

While I'm asking "does Russian bias exist", I acknowledge that the data won't be very useful since this is the NA server. Still, just curious what your entirely biased thoughts are!  

 

I'm just gonna leave these here...

 

 The Khabab outperforms the numbers of the Shima and Gearing by the following:

Win Rate:   13.8% 

Damage:    44.9%

K/D:            58.3%

Ship Frag:  33.3%

Calculation

 X = [Khabarovsk-(Gearing+Shimakaze)/2] / [(Gearing +Shimakaze)/2]

 

 

 

 

[Lert]

Yes and No, respectively.

[PelicanHazard]

Yes and Yes. Too many personal experiences to add flesh to stats for me to deny.

[Brofisticus]

That's only listing the one ship. List the rest. 

 

[goldeagle1123]

It's not coincidence that Soviet vehicles are the best in every WG game, and that they can be blatantly OP and never get nerfed.

[Terrible_Turtle]

That's only listing the one ship. List the rest. 

 

Too lazy. 

[Freecloud]

I don't think there's Russian bias in terms of ship performance since their stronk guns are offset by their Tzar Metal (the inferior monarch version of Stalinium ) armor.  In terms of adding ships in-game, I think there's a bit of Russian bias partly because it's easier to get the blueprints for such vessels since they're near Russia.  The lack of blueprint accessibility is the reason why the Royal Navy hasn't been added in full force yet in the game...

[Compassghost]

I've got your top sekret Russian bias right here!

Imaginary design, check! Insane speed, check! Laser guns, check! Glorious Stalinium, check! Fair and balanced, check! 

[VTAdmiral]

[Swine_007]

Yes and No respectively.  But Wombat you should change the poll to accurately read United States in place of 'Murica as some of us are from the continent but definitely not from the US.      

 

.....And no I cannot resist being pedantic about that subject.  

[Lert]

some of us are from the continent but definitely not from the US.      

 

Meh, it all looks the same from where I'm sitting.

 

 

 

[Adm_Nate_Ellis937]

Bias: a word to describe unfairness or one-sided to a particular subject. 

 

So that means......

 

German BBs will destroy "Communist bias".

[kerensky914]

Imaginary design, check! Insane speed, check! Laser guns, check! Glorious Stalinium, check! Fair and balanced, check!

Takes three days to complete a 180 degree turn, check.  Only defense against red shells is overpen, check.  Can be seen further away than an on-fire Yamato, check. ;)

 

... you should change the poll to accurately read United States in place of 'Murica as some of us are from the continent but definitely not from the US.

Perhaps he specifically wants to poll *actual* USAmericans rather than Mexicamericans and Canadamericans.

[Hunter_Steel]

No and no.

I think it's just Confirmation Bias, and I'm not even from the American continent.

 

~Hunter

[DoomStomper]

 

[VTAdmiral]

No and no.

I think it's just Confirmation Bias, and I'm not even from the American continent.

 

~Hunter

 

Continents. There are two of them. 

[BossmanSlim]

Unlike the other lines, I think the current Russian lines filter people out more than other lines.

 

Russian DDs = crap torpedoes, slow turret traverse and low number of guns until tier 7, then they get relatively good

Russian CAs/CLs = glass, lots and lots of glass, which means people who aren't careful in them get murdered quickly, thus making them unfun.  By the time people get to high tier, the ships glass nature becomes less of an issue because all the cruisers are glass.

Russian premiums = except for the Emporer and Gremy, while most of them are excellent, they aren't anymore overpowered than other top premiums.  Emporer and Gremy should nerfed to bring them inline, rather than never being sold again, as that is pure bias against those who weren't around or didn't invest.

 

Tier IV Win Rate DD

Isokaze > Clemson > Izyaslav

 

Tier VIII Win Rate DD

Benson > Tashkent > Fubuki

 

Tier IV Win Rate CL

Svietlana = Kuma > Phoenix > Karlsruhe

 

Tier VIII Win Rate CA/CL

Chapayev > Mogami > Admiral Hipper > New Orleans

 

[Xero_Snake]

No such thing as "just Russian Bias alone". There are other kind of biases, too. " 'Murica Bias", "Wehraboo Bias", "Wapanese Bias", "anti-[insert anything you hate] bias", "People's bias", you name it. World is not black and white, but a one solid object with shades of grey and light. There are no lines to cross. Only lines exist are drawn within our heads, and there are all over the places. Which is why not everyone can always get along.

[Terrible_Turtle]

Yes and No respectively.  But Wombat you should change the poll to accurately read United States in place of 'Murica as some of us are from the continent but definitely not from the US.      

 

.....And no I cannot resist being pedantic about that subject.  

 

Perhaps he specifically wants to poll *actual* USAmericans rather than Mexicamericans and Canadamericans.

 

We 'Muricans have the occasional (and sometimes frequent) tendency to believe ANYTHING with the "Made in USA" sticker is superior.  Hence the clarification. 

[Gaishu_Isshoku]

It's hard to argue against Russian bias when the majority of Russian ships statistically significantly outperform other nations.

[Montana_Prussian]

Yes,and Yes.

[1nv4d3rZ1m]

Unlike the other lines, I think the current Russian lines filter people out more than other lines.

 

Russian DDs = crap torpedoes, slow turret traverse and low number of guns until tier 7, then they get relatively good

Russian CAs/CLs = glass, lots and lots of glass, which means people who aren't careful in them get murdered quickly, thus making them unfun.  By the time people get to high tier, the ships glass nature becomes less of an issue because all the cruisers are glass.

Russian premiums = except for the Emporer and Gremy, while most of them are excellent, they aren't anymore overpowered than other top premiums.  Emporer and Gremy should nerfed to bring them inline, rather than never being sold again, as that is pure bias against those who weren't around or didn't invest.

 

Tier IV Win Rate DD

Isokaze > Clemson > Izyaslav

 

Tier VIII Win Rate DD

Benson > Tashkent > Fubuki

 

Tier IV Win Rate CL

Svietlana = Kuma > Phoenix > Karlsruhe

 

Tier VIII Win Rate CA/CL

Chapayev > Mogami > Admiral Hipper > New Orleans

 

 

Tier VI Win Rate CA/CL

Molotov > Buddy >>> Cleveland = Aoba > Nurnberg

[VGLance]

Yes and Yes.

 

Of course there is bias.  But I don't think it's as significant as it is in WT or WoT (at least at the time I was playing WoT).  I don't have the Khab yet though, and I just purchased the Chappy.  I also don't have any of the Russian premiums people know are OP.  So your mileage may vary.

[VTAdmiral]

Unlike the other lines, I think the current Russian lines filter people out more than other lines.

 

Russian DDs = crap torpedoes, slow turret traverse and low number of guns until tier 7, then they get relatively good

Russian CAs/CLs = glass, lots and lots of glass, which means people who aren't careful in them get murdered quickly, thus making them unfun.  By the time people get to high tier, the ships glass nature becomes less of an issue because all the cruisers are glass.

Russian premiums = except for the Emporer and Gremy, while most of them are excellent, they aren't anymore overpowered than other top premiums.  Emporer and Gremy should nerfed to bring them inline, rather than never being sold again, as that is pure bias against those who weren't around or didn't invest.

 

Tier IV Win Rate DD

Isokaze > Clemson > Izyaslav

 

Tier VIII Win Rate DD

Benson > Tashkent > Fubuki

 

Tier IV Win Rate CL

Svietlana = Kuma > Phoenix > Karlsruhe

 

Tier VIII Win Rate CA/CL

Chapayev > Mogami > Admiral Hipper > New Orleans

 

 

So he picks the only tiers where RU ships aren't overperforming for his example that there is no bias?

 

This is getting better than I expected.

[JohnBlackJackGeary]

I said yes to both but I do not believe the balance is as off as people make it out to be. I have played both WOT and WOWs now and I like to drive the American stuff. The RU stuff might be better on paper but only slightly. I have no problems doing well in any of the U.S. BBs or with any American tank tier 5 and up in WOT. So is there some bias? Yeah probably but not enough to make the games unplayable for fans of other nations.