Account Unification, a false promise swept under the rug?

[vonnoe]

How much longer will WG drag this out. They advertised it, still nothing. Players spent money based on this unification. They removed the suggestions area for comments on forum, so here's a suggestion, do what you say, and print online. This failure is so obvious, so blatant, and tarnishing to WG brand. How can they just ignore this, I think they just want to forget about it, we have to keep on them to keep there word. WG, we're waiting to hear why this has not happened as advertised.

[Lert]

They removed the suggestions area for comments on forum

 

It's right there, on the main page:

 

 

As for a full unified economy, that's not going to happen.

 

"But they~"

 

Yes, they. It's still not going to happen, for various reasons. However, by the tone of our OP I'm going to assume you're not really interested in discussion.

[pyantoryng]

They won't unify it...because they want Planes to stay dead...

[B_Wilco]

What I have learned from 5 years in WG games: Just assume they are BSing until you see it physically in the game. They say alot and do little.

 

The only reason they combined WOT and WoWp was to give those that bought in to WoWp a way out of a dead game. So while it would be nice if they did combine with WoWs. They are trying to milk as much as they can. Hence I bought the one ship I wanted in CBT and have stuck to only using the gold it came with. Everything else I get via codes and missions

[BrushWolf]

Unified free experience is highly unlikely because our experience earning rates and the costs to spend it are much higher. I would assume, yes a very dangerous thing to do, that unified gold will happen this year as they seem to have figured out how clans will work within the three games with the recent division of clans between tanks and planes.

[Submarine_Wahoo]

The only reason they combined WOT and WoWp was to give those that bought in to WoWp a way out of a dead game. So while it would be nice if they did combine with WoWs. They are trying to milk as much as they can. Hence I bought the one ship I wanted in CBT and have stuck to only using the gold it came with. Everything else I get via codes and missions

 

That is absolutely false. It was announced prior to the release of Warplanes that the accounts will be unified, so the plan was there before the game was determined to be a flop. WG delayed the implementation of a unified account system in WoWP rather than implement it off the bat because they simultaneously ran a "rush to Tier 10" event at the start of the game. It strongly encouraged players to spend money specifically on WoWP in order to be one of the winners of the event, rather than stockpiling through WoT and using the UAS to instantly get a T10 plane. UAS is finally put in while the title is floundering. Correlation does not equate causation.

 

The bolded statement is hilarious in particular because the tin foil hat conspiracies are supposed to say that WG only cares about your money. UAS doesn't give WG more money.

[pmgaudio]

 

It's right there, on the main page:

 

 

As for a full unified economy, that's not going to happen.

 

"But they~"

 

Yes, they. It's still not going to happen, for various reasons. However, by the tone of our OP I'm going to assume you're not really interested in discussion.

HEY!!!

[Skramjet]

I wouldn't mind unifying gold/ doubloons, but seriously, credits and XP? You get exponentially more credits and XP in WOWS... be realistic. And they did unify premium, which is most important.

[BrushWolf]

What I have learned from 5 years in WG games: Just assume they are BSing until you see it physically in the game. They say alot and do little.

 

The only reason they combined WOT and WoWp was to give those that bought in to WoWp a way out of a dead game. So while it would be nice if they did combine with WoWs. They are trying to milk as much as they can. Hence I bought the one ship I wanted in CBT and have stuck to only using the gold it came with. Everything else I get via codes and missions

 

 

That is absolutely false. It was announced prior to the release of Warplanes that the accounts will be unified, so the plan was there before the game was determined to be a flop. WG delayed the implementation of a unified account system in WoWP rather than implement it off the bat because they simultaneously ran a "rush to Tier 10" event at the start of the game. It strongly encouraged players to spend money specifically on WoWP in order to be one of the winners of the event, rather than stockpiling through WoT and using the UAS to instantly get a T10 plane. UAS is finally put in while the title is floundering. Correlation does not equate causation.

 

The bolded statement is hilarious in particular because the tin foil hat conspiracies are supposed to say that WG only cares about your money. UAS doesn't give WG more money.

 

When the unified clans were implemented the few WoT clans that absolutely controlled the clan wars map raised a stink and managed to get all or most of the remaining door mat clans to go along. They did have some points such as the 100 member limit which should have been addressed but that is only one of the many things that were mishandled by Persha and WG with WoWP. Even with its problems it is still a much better arcade flyer than WT's arcade mode which even the most ardent WT fan boys say is garbage.

[USMC2145]

I think the main reason is that they have not figured out what to do about clans yet and also how to do a conversion of gold vs doubloons. It was brought up a while ago they did not know if they were going to let clans from WoT be the same calns over here or make people have new clans. 

[Shatara422]

Amsuingly, I got an email from WoT not long ago begging me to spend my 3k+ gold, which I've been saving since World of Boats was announced to go towards nice premium, like a Fletcherpult.

[BrushWolf]

I think the main reason is that they have not figured out what to do about clans yet and also how to do a conversion of gold vs doubloons. It was brought up a while ago they did not know if they were going to let clans from WoT be the same calns over here or make people have new clans. 

 

The cost for gold is so close to the cost for doubloons that is more likely a round-tuit thing than anything else. With the recent allowing people to be in different clans in Planes and Tanks that says to me that any road blocks to ships clans have been removed and think they will show up this year along with combined gold.

[VTAdmiral]

I seem to recall a game that uses the same unified currency for planes and tanks and that they're working on ships. And that their planes were far better modeled than World of Warplanes, too.

 

What was it, again? It's on the tip of my tongue.

[Vader_Sama]

I would like to use my reserve gold in WoT here in WoWS

[1nv4d3rZ1m]

Warships kind of dug themselves into a hole when they decided to use a different value for silver and xp in this game. WOT costs significantly less in terms of silver and xp than this game does meaning that there would have to be some kind of conversion factor between the games. On top of that the conversion ratios for converting xp and silver from gold are the same in both games so that complicates things further. 

 

Something should be done IMO, I have a significant amount of gold from competitions, league, and CW in WOT I cant use. 

[Kuckoo]

I seem to recall a game that uses the same unified currency for planes and tanks and that they're working on ships. And that their planes were far better modeled than World of Warplanes, too.

 

What was it, again? It's on the tip of my tongue.

 

Kind of non sequitur.  "That game" would inherently use the same economy for both, being that once you log in it has tanks and planes in the same application anyway.

[BrushWolf]

Warships kind of dug themselves into a hole when they decided to use a different value for silver and xp in this game. WOT costs significantly less in terms of silver and xp than this game does meaning that there would have to be some kind of conversion factor between the games. On top of that the conversion ratios for converting xp and silver from gold are the same in both games so that complicates things further. 

 

Something should be done IMO, I have a significant amount of gold from competitions, league, and CW in WOT I cant use. 

 

The credit income doesn't matter because there was never going to be unified credits but unlike in tanks & planes where the amount of experience earned per match is different but the amount earned over time is almost identical here our experience rates are much bigger. I don't see why there couldn't be conversion rates between the games just as there are between real world currencies.

[1nv4d3rZ1m]

 

The credit income doesn't matter because there was never going to be unified credits but unlike in tanks & planes where the amount of experience earned per match is different but the amount earned over time is almost identical here our experience rates are much bigger. I don't see why there couldn't be conversion rates between the games just as there are between real world currencies.

 

I just think it would a lot easier if the relative costs of things was similar between the games. I would make everything work a lot cleaner, there is no reason why gold has to buy less in this game. 

[BrushWolf]

 

I just think it would a lot easier if the relative costs of things was similar between the games. I would make everything work a lot cleaner, there is no reason why gold has to buy less in this game. 

 

Yeah but that would require a complete retooling of experience rates and they would still have to  convert all of the already earned free experience here so actually more work up front but what I would like to see done.

[B_Wilco]

 

That is absolutely false. It was announced prior to the release of Warplanes that the accounts will be unified, so the plan was there before the game was determined to be a flop. WG delayed the implementation of a unified account system in WoWP rather than implement it off the bat because they simultaneously ran a "rush to Tier 10" event at the start of the game. It strongly encouraged players to spend money specifically on WoWP in order to be one of the winners of the event, rather than stockpiling through WoT and using the UAS to instantly get a T10 plane. UAS is finally put in while the title is floundering. Correlation does not equate causation.

 

The bolded statement is hilarious in particular because the tin foil hat conspiracies are supposed to say that WG only cares about your money. UAS doesn't give WG more money.

 

The original plan goes back to when WoWp was announced as a project. But WoWp was DOA in Beta due to poor management and a rush to publish the game ASAP in order to try and compete with WT in a full market release (they lost by several months because of issues attempting to push more UI and Controls changes at the last second with minor testing.. again).

 

  When they were hyping up the WoWp release they spoke of all 3 games sharing a launcher, and even announced that all current released WG titles(and future titles) would share premium time and Gold (no mention of Free exp, but see that change in my previous remark) that was September 2013, the game launched with some fan fair, but by then it had already lost most of its audience(the delays let it sit in Open Beta for 5 months, allowing a lot of people to see an unfinished product.) and when the free exp came a month later the population was already in decline The race to the top contest was just an attempt to spur more players to play, you know, like the 5k gold given out for playing in the beta or all the gold given out during E3 and PAX events to try and make the servers look active. So sure, maybe the change wasn't introduced as a way to give players a way out of a dead game, but it sure let a lot do it.

 

Anyways the UAS draws in some money in a kind of backwards way. Players with gold in the bank aren't spending money. So by letting them spend it in a different title, gives them another avenue of using that gold up and possibly buying more. However WoWs started out as a much better product and was able to produce plenty of revenue through Premium shop sales alone meaning in game gold has not been a large priority. 5k is enough to buy a dozen slots and have enough to train captains and demount crew. maybe even get some free exp. With that trend they may never combine them, especially if they are not seeing many players crossing between the WoT and WoWs.

[atPrick__]

I would rather have a more functional replay system 

[gurudennis]

Something should be done IMO, I have a significant amount of gold from competitions, league, and CW in WOT I cant use. 

 

This here is the answer to why gold isn't unified. Think about it from the perspective of WG trying to keep WoWs profitable and popular:

 

1. More gold in the combined system effectively inflates the WoWs gold but has little positive effect on WoT. This is because a not-insiginifcant number of people share your situation: they have a quantity of gold on WoT but don't have much to spend it on, perhaps because they effectively quit WoT (can't blame them).

 

2. WoWs players will feel it's unfair because you currently can't earn gold in WoWs through CW / events / whatever, but you can in WoT. So long as the ecosystems stay separated, such concerns are moot.

 

3. WG want your money. If they were to allow you to spend WoT gold in WoWs, they would materially miss out on at least a portion of potential sales (granted, not all of it can be written off as lost profits).

 

4. As a consequence of #3, WG would have to limit premium ship availability in the tech tree. As a result of #1, they might have to inflate the price of those tech tree premiums that remain.

 

5. WG feel that as long as you can spend WoT gold on premium time, the status quo is not seen in the community as entirely unfair.

 

Gold unification sounds like nothing but bad news for WG and even for those in the WoWs playerbase who don't have much gold on WoT.

[Kuckoo]

I would rather have a more functional replay system 

 

A rewind function would be really appreciated.

[SPACEDUDE71]

if they unify accounts...u will see instant t10 ships. and every premium ship bought.

u obviously dont know how much gold some in wot have accumulated.

tens of thousands of gold isnt uncommon.

quite a few have hundred thousand gold.

most ive seen was 438k gold.

they have so much gold they cant even spend it.

 

 

so u wany them to come here and elite instantly?

[atPrick__]

if they unify accounts...u will see instant t10 ships. and every premium ship bought.

u obviously dont know how much gold some in wot have accumulated.

tens of thousands of gold isnt uncommon.

quite a few have hundred thousand gold.

most ive seen was 438k gold.

they have so much gold they cant even spend it.

 

 

so u wany them to come here and elite instantly?

 

yes

I want more people to shoot at in my Des and Yamato, I could care less if they go through the lines to quickly, game can always use more players and a few are waiting to play WoWs until WG unifies Gold and Doubloons.