Captain skills and new patch?

[StevebDancer]

I spent alot to redistribute and want to know what you think. I just want fair business. I spent over 1600 doubloons and asked for 1400 back... they said sorry. that is greedy.. I would of spent the rest on premium days but not after that. let me know what you think.. they should of game me and everyone else a heads up when 5.9.0 was about to be tested.. then they spring the sale and 100 doubloons.. after the point.. just sucks..

[Aduial]

Well, this was an unexpected and sudden decision for WG as well, because they only decided to do this when people started saying that giving BoS by default for the new captain changes was unfair. So they couldn't have warned you at all.

Also, let's say a shopping mall was holding a major sale, let's say 90% off for everything. Does it make sense for you to go to them and say, "i would like my money back, because i bought an item a while ago, and it's not fair because you didn't tell us you were going to have a sale."?

[Infeedel]

I spent a bit too Stephen and it was pretty sucky, even moved a Captain off DDs (17 points) and fully retrained him to another class.

But I figured that I was a little out of pocket but had the option now to retrain many Skippers that don't really need it, but I can optimise them while the special is on.

Have you actually sent a ticket to support?

Did you come to the forums and join in any of the conversation threads we were discussing the impending changes in?

I really think if you are severely miffed, you might get a sympathetic ear with the staff and hope you recognise the value if that is what happens...

[Landing_Skipper]

I am much more frustrated about having spent time and effort to get to 16 points for one captain and 15 for another, only now it was a waste of time because Situational Awareness is free to everyone. These captains were for ships where I felt I needed SA plus another 1-point skill. 

 

The very low cost of rearranging skill points for everyone is a nice bonus. 

[Captain_Dorja]

I spent alot to redistribute and want to know what you think. I just want fair business. I spent over 1600 doubloons and asked for 1400 back... they said sorry. that is greedy.. I would of spent the rest on premium days but not after that. let me know what you think.. they should of game me and everyone else a heads up when 5.9.0 was about to be tested.. then they spring the sale and 100 doubloons.. after the point.. just sucks..

 

There was no need to spend a dime on redistributing skill points. WarGaming told how to avoid this in the pre-patch notes. If people didn't notice the method, several forumites and other people in the community pointed out how to do things without spending a dime, grinding, or costing so much as a wrinkled brow.

 

What your post is saying is that you accidentally chose a worse method to do something which could easily have been done for free, and now you want someone else to literally pay for your mistake. You think you've been screwed, but really you have just been unwise and are now trying to basically take something from someone else that you didn't need, and don't deserve.

[pmgaudio]

long poll is long....

TL/DV

[Morpheus29]

The only reason they gave 100 DBs and put the sale down to 1 DB/skill point was due to the massive amount of butthurt from the community. For the people who spent the DBs on re-specing, that's on you- WG didn't need to do anything, props to them for doing it though. You thought it was the end of the world getting BoS and were impatient. Thumbs up to the people who waited and got a sweet deal  ...Pays to be patient!

[Morpheus29]

 

There was no need to spend a dime on redistributing skill points. WarGaming told how to avoid this in the pre-patch notes. If people didn't notice the method, several forumites and other people in the community pointed out how to do things without spending a dime, grinding, or costing so much as a wrinkled brow.

 

What your post is saying is that you accidentally chose a worse method to do something which could easily have been done for free, and now you want someone else to literally pay for your mistake. You think you've been screwed, but really you have just been unwise and are now trying to basically take something from someone else that you didn't need, and don't deserve.

+1

[tortelloni]

 

Also, let's say a shopping mall was holding a major sale, let's say 90% off for everything. Does it make sense for you to go to them and say, "i would like my money back, because i bought an item a while ago, and it's not fair because you didn't tell us you were going to have a sale."?

 

Actually, in the USA there are indeed several retailers, small and large national ones even, who have "30 day price guarantees" whereby if I purchase something, say August 1, if the price is lowered/goes on sale during the month I can bring receipt and get the difference refunded/credited/gift card   https://www.google.com/search?q=30+day+price+guarantee&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

Noted in the Google search results are price matching competitions including the 30 day from date of purchase so if retailer X has a sale and 25 days later retailer Y has even better sale take X receipt in for adjustment.

 

 

With ALL online games I have found it best to wait till updates, xpacs, etc. actually drop before spending. One never knows for sure what the content is until it's Live. Sure, one can get burned on occasion by waiting, but more often one gets burned spending early.

[Captain_Dorja]

+1

 

You;re welcome.

[Captain_Dorja]

I spent alot to redistribute and want to know what you think. I just want fair business. I spent over 1600 doubloons and asked for 1400 back... they said sorry. that is greedy.. I would of spent the rest on premium days but not after that. let me know what you think.. they should of game me and everyone else a heads up when 5.9.0 was about to be tested.. then they spring the sale and 100 doubloons.. after the point.. just sucks..

 

Time for round 2.

 

When WG release pre-patch notes, there is always a disclaimer that the patch notes are prelim notes, and everything is subject to change, and that any actions players take on the live server based on pre-patch info is 100% their responsibility if changes occur and things don't work out as the player initially thought. In other words, if you act on pre-patch notes, and they change their mind, they warned you not to do it. It's your fault.

 

Secondly, WarGaming couldn't advertise this sale ahead of time because it was 100% unplanned. This whole shltstorm about the captain's skills is 100% caused by people being whiny little girls. Everything we needed to know was told ahead of time, and a method was already provided to avoid even needing to redistribute points, but even after being told from multiple sources multiple times, people still got their knickers in a twist over being given a bunch of stuff for free. On the spur of the moment, to try and placate people who should have been told to sit down, shut up, and use the system to their advantage next time, WarGaming decided to give everyone 100 gold and let us all redistribute captain points basically for free. That is a huge gift, and the need to even do it (first off, the need never existed, no not even for one second) was unforseeable. That makes advanced notice impossible to provide.

 

TLDR - We've been given more than we deserve because a bunch of people pissed and moaned about getthing things for free in a format that was less than 100% perfect for all the people and ships and times concurrently. You deserve nothing back, but a moderately polite message saying, "We're sorry you feel that way."

[Rapsidy]

Thankfully I had extra points on most of my ships to spend, on something other than the default that was going to be given.  But I did have to redistribute on one ship.  Kinda of dumb to just automatically choose a captain skill.   Does anyone review this stuff before it is released, preferably by an actual player?   It was an instant red flag, when they said they were going to refund the point and then automatically choose which skill to give you.  Big DUH factor there.   

[MrEndeavour]

I'm glad I don't have the money to spend on this game so I wouldn't have ever wasted so much. It really pays to be patient literally. Even if they didn't give the 100 DBs and a discount to respec I would have waited until they came out with more skills allowing for free respec. It may have been 0.5.3 or something like that but I think we all remember when they just gave us all our points back without the doubloon respec discount.

[RJC_1]

Why do you need 10 million xp (9,999,999) for captains skill 19, seems like a bug.

 

[jagdoc]

When ever I get a new ship I always move my most senior commander to that ship.  If I have enough doubloons I will move all commanders up to the next ship.  The commander that came with the new ship goes to the lowest tier ship in that class w 3 training skill credits so that will cost 500 doubloons plus the retraining for the other commanders.  I wish there was a package deal where you could check a box automatically moving all the commanders to a higher ship within the navy and retrain them all.  As of now I have 9 US ships, 6 commanded by Vice Admirals, 2 by Upper Rear Admirals, and 1 my only DD by a Captain.  The Commander of my Montana will be a 4 star Admiral by the end of the month with 2 more close behind.  I think the number of XP required to move the captains along is too high.  Oh how about changing the contrast or color of the column headings in the captain skills screen?  You can't see them.