Pink and Penalties ...it has to be said....

[SILENTCREEPER56]

I know this topic has been beaten to death but I HAVE to say this..

 

 

The people that FLOAT into a "Fight Scenario" and don't know their ships or don't pay attention to whats happening....or don't know enough to stay OUT of a Fire Fight NEED to turn BROWN and be PENALIZED....Do these people walk in front of guns in a firing range too ?? I wonder sometimes.

 

I've been pink more times lately than I care to say and its ALL been because some "Dolt" goes floating thru my Torps right before they smack the enemy.

 

Today I had an Atago out for battle and fyi.....ATAGOS HAVE TORPS PEOPLE !!!!    Apparently this person had no idea or just plain didn't care and he Floats right thru the middle of a fire fight....and he (of course) got taken out by Atago's torps......I was DOING MY JOB.....HE is the MORON.   Why should we be turned PINK ??   These people need a Penalty too... "BROWN" and "POINTS TAKEN"  ..that's my suggestion... 

 

And by the way WOWS....The penalty says FIVE Battles for the Penalty and I'm having to do 35-40 Battles to be released from Pink Status.....Whats up with THAT ??   And that is no exaggeration.....35-40 games before being let go...THAT is NUTS.....If your going to Penalize someone that strongly you should SAY SO....Don't post 5 games then Hold me HOSTAGE for 40.....I'm losing Points and Money...its NOT the right thing to do to people.

 

 

And while I'm on the topic....  When I get RUN OVER and DRAGGED AROUND THE MAP by a Battleship or Cruiser when I'm a DD.....and I GET POINTS TAKEN OFF ME........That's another problem.......That's plain WRONG......If I'm hit,  the person smacking me should get Points Taken......NOT the VICTIM.... Someone at WOWS needs to look at these issues and play the game right...its getting out of hand.....I'm sick of losing points because of others.......  (and I'm not saying I'm perfect..I screw up too but not like these issues...just be courteous and pay attention people).

 

And on a "Good Note"....Thank's WOWS for not spamming the chat anymore when you Announce Penalties....its easier now to play with your partners and not have to wait for the pink to stop running.....so Thank You for that ......

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[Terrible_Turtle]

Don't ever fire torpedoes if there's a chance they'll hit a friendly. Common sense. 

[StingRayOne]

serious face palm, the float guy did not do anything wrong.

You should not have fired,

The pink system has improved quite a bit.

I should know

I have been tkd 23 times.

[Czevak]

Brown color is used by Russian server as designation for cheaters.

 

Just don't launch torps if there's a chance, only launch torps if your division is aware of your intentions.

[Stonehammers]

Because YOU are responsible for YOUR ordinance, your allies have enough to worry about with the reds firing shells and torps at them. They don't need to also be babysitting your torpedoes because you can't be bothered to check before firing them.

[Terrible_Turtle]

And by the way WOWS....The penalty says FIVE Battles for the Penalty and I'm having to do 35-40 Battles to be released from Pink Status.....Whats up with THAT ??   And that is no exaggeration.....35-40 games before being let go...THAT is NUTS.....If your going to Penalize someone that strongly you should SAY SO....Don't post 5 games then Hold me HOSTAGE for 40.....I'm losing Points and Money...its NOT the right thing to do to people.

 

Five for the average player. I'm pretty sure the removal of "pinkness" is based how how much damage you deal to the enemy. If it's taking you more than 5 games, my guess is you're not hitting enough red players. 

 

Also, running into or otherwise damaging friendlies during your time of purgatory will prolong said punishment. 

[dionkraft]

Well there are times that a friendly is turning away and you fire torps behind him then suddenly he makes a U-TURN and headed for your torps!   It happens and thats all there is too it. 

Just have to work off the pinky.  

[Terrible_Turtle]

One more thing. I'd suggest you master the basics and etiquette of the game before collecting all the premiums. The higher tiers aren't forgiving and you must learn to crawl before you can walk or run. 

[Stonehammers]

 

Five for the average player. I'm pretty sure the removal of "pinkness" is based how how much damage you deal to the enemy. If it's taking you more than 5 games, my guess is you're not hitting enough red players. 

 

Also, running into or otherwise damaging friendlies during your time of purgatory will prolong said punishment. 

 

It's actually five; more gets added if you continue to shoot at allies whilst pink. I'm guessing the OP is too stuck to his guns about being in the right to be bothered to be more careful so the number has gone up.

[Terrible_Turtle]

 

It's actually five; more gets added if you continue to shoot at allies whilst pink. I'm guessing the OP is too stuck to his guns about being in the right to be bothered to be more careful so the number has gone up.

 

Stonehammers, thanks for clarifying. 

[Dutch_81]

I turned pink for the first time, I did a grand total of 137 hp of damage to his ship but yes I killed him. He collided with me at one point and after I managed to finally get off his ship he sat there didn't move anymore so for me the battle continued as multiple ships were closing in on us. I popped some smoke to cover us and moved to fire a spread of torpedoes across his bow but again he hadn't moved at this point for some time but of course now he decides to move forward, and one of my torpedoes finishes him off, the rest of my spread takes out a enemy DD. I finished the game with over 63,000 dmg and 3 enemy kills and a whole slew of medals but turned pink. For a T3 DD that was a pretty awesome game for me. I was very careful after not to collide in subsequent battles or do any friendly damage but I had to play more than 5 games in pink as well it seemed to stick at 2 for some time. I like the pink stuff I think it helps but they might have gone a bit overboard on it at this point.

[LuminousWraith]

The current system is too easily grief with. Just a little tap by someone wanting to troll, just like a giant pink status reset button.

[paradat]

Ships in front have the right of way

[gillhunter]

I have been team killed a number of times by accident with torps. Just played a game where I was team killed on purpose for the 1st time. A person with over1400 battles, many at T8 decided it would be fun (I assume) to see if he could take my CL out with his BB (took him 3 salvos). Never remember playing a game with the guy before and honestly have no idea of what motivates people to do this.  

[Umikami]

Don't ever fire torpedoes if there's a chance they'll hit a friendly. Common sense.

 

Nonsense. I have had friendly DD players BLOCK my torp shots so they could finish off some enemy with their guns and gain the points instead of me. Dude is right, people in this game have NO awareness of their surroundings. That is why I am so upset about everyone getting SA; many of WoW's players aren't aware enough to use it but it guts any IJN DD's ability to stay concealed. All cruisers do now is pair up and follow the "DETECTED" light to kill DD's. It is time for WoW to be responsible and do one of two things. First, if they are really against team kills, MAKE IT SO FRIENDLY FIRE DOES NOT HURT FRIENDLY SHIPS. PERIOD. If they don't want to do that, THEN DO NOTHING AND LET PLAYERS SORT IT OUT FOR THEMSELVES. PERIOD.

[BrushWolf]

I know this topic has been beaten to death but I HAVE to say this..

 

 

 

The people that FLOAT into a "Fight Scenario" and don't know their ships or don't pay attention to whats happening....or don't know enough to stay OUT of a Fire Fight NEED to turn BROWN and be PENALIZED....Do these people walk in front of guns in a firing range too ?? I wonder sometimes.

 

 

I've been pink more times lately than I care to say and its ALL been because some "Dolt" goes floating thru my Torps right before they smack the enemy.

 

 

Today I had an Atago out for battle and fyi.....ATAGOS HAVE TORPS PEOPLE !!!!    Apparently this person had no idea or just plain didn't care and he Floats right thru the middle of a fire fight....and he (of course) got taken out by Atago's torps......I was DOING MY JOB.....HE is the MORON.   Why should we be turned PINK ??   These people need a Penalty too... "BROWN" and "POINTS TAKEN"  ..that's my suggestion... 

 

 

And by the way WOWS....The penalty says FIVE Battles for the Penalty and I'm having to do 35-40 Battles to be released from Pink Status.....Whats up with THAT ??   And that is no exaggeration.....35-40 games before being let go...THAT is NUTS.....If your going to Penalize someone that strongly you should SAY SO....Don't post 5 games then Hold me HOSTAGE for 40.....I'm losing Points and Money...its NOT the right thing to do to people.

 

 

 

 

And while I'm on the topic....  When I get RUN OVER and DRAGGED AROUND THE MAP by a Battleship or Cruiser when I'm a DD.....and I GET POINTS TAKEN OFF ME........That's another problem.......That's plain WRONG......If I'm hit,  the person smacking me should get Points Taken......NOT the VICTIM.... Someone at WOWS needs to look at these issues and play the game right...its getting out of hand.....I'm sick of losing points because of others.......  (and I'm not saying I'm perfect..I screw up too but not like these issues...just be courteous and pay attention people).

 

 

And on a "Good Note"....Thank's WOWS for not spamming the chat anymore when you Announce Penalties....its easier now to play with your partners and not have to wait for the pink to stop running.....so Thank You for that ......

 

The reason you are getting 35 - 40 game punishments is you keep causing team damage, the punishment escalates when you cause enough team damage to trigger the system too often. When you are causing that much team damage the problem is on your end. This is a self inflicted wound and you are going to get little sympathy, start paying attention when you send those fish down range, you and only you are responsible for them, it is not the other players job to dodge your ordnance.

[Dutch_81]

I disagree, I want team damage to remain. But it need to be able to distinguish between an accident and maliciousness, it needs to discern between minor damage and massive damage. The minor collisions need to be removed from the computation of willful team damage.

[Skramjet]

WG should be a bit more lenient. I had an ally charge an enemy Colorado. He was down to 305 health when a stray shell from my Kutsov hit and killed him. He didn't care, he was dead, yet I was pink for 5 games.

[Jinxed_Katajainen]

I disagree, I want team damage to remain. But it need to be able to distinguish between an accident and maliciousness, it needs to discern between minor damage and massive damage. The minor collisions need to be removed from the computation of willful team damage.

 

Game can't distinguish who is at fault so all parties are penalized.

Agree, collisions do need to be removed from the TK penalty reset time though... 

[Hifumin]

I'm going to be honest here.

 

1. Your only problem is you.

 

2. Honestly I think you should play coop until you get the hang of killing enemies and not team killing. I did look at your stats to try and temper myself in case you were a fairly new, but honestly you need practice as you are not even remotely new at this point. Practice makes perfect.

[Fishrokk]

The reason you are getting 35 - 40 game punishments is you keep causing team damage, the punishment escalates when you cause enough team damage to trigger the system too often. When you are causing that much team damage the problem is on your end. This is a self inflicted wound and you are going to get little sympathy, start paying attention when you send those fish down range, you and only you are responsible for them, it is not the other players job to dodge your ordnance.

 

While I understand your point, I think you are wrong about one detail here - I don't think the punishment escalates when you cause "enough" team damage.  I think it escalates when you cause any team damage.

 

Based on the opening post and subsequent, I think OP is the type who would keep doing what he has been doing and complain that the system is keeping him in the doghouse, however there is one point in his complaint that is valid.

 

A player is not always able to avoid a collision.  If it is your opinion that it is possible, we can test that in a training room.  I'll help; we'll join a training room on the same team, I'll set one inactive bot on the other side.  I'll drive my Sims, you can drive any battleship you want.  If you can keep me from colliding with you without using your guns on me, while I try to ram you, you win and I will concede that a player can always avoid a collision.

 

For this reason, it is my opinion that collision damage should not be counted in the team damage system.  Any part of the team damage system that can be so easily abused should be removed.

 

But that's just my opinion.

[SweetRollThief]

Keep thinking it was someone else's fault and it will keep happening. Learn when to not fire torps.

[BrushWolf]

 

While I understand your point, I think you are wrong about one detail here - I don't think the punishment escalates when you cause "enough" team damage.  I think it escalates when you cause any team damage.

 

Based on the opening post and subsequent, I think OP is the type who would keep doing what he has been doing and complain that the system is keeping him in the doghouse, however there is one point in his complaint that is valid.

 

A player is not always able to avoid a collision.  If it is your opinion that it is possible, we can test that in a training room.  I'll help; we'll join a training room on the same team, I'll set one inactive bot on the other side.  I'll drive my Sims, you can drive any battleship you want.  If you can keep me from colliding with you without using your guns on me, while I try to ram you, you win and I will concede that a player can always avoid a collision.

 

For this reason, it is my opinion that collision damage should not be counted in the team damage system.  Any part of the team damage system that can be so easily abused should be removed.

 

But that's just my opinion.

 

I am talking about when you get the X number of games punishment. For someone like the OP who has to be teetering on the edge of a ban, if he isn't trolling, that gets clear of their pink status and then causes enough damage to trigger TK status in the next match or two, rinse and repeat, the number required to get clear increases. For the average player that doesn't do this match after match the occasional pink is not a big issue, they serve their penalty, learn from their mistake, and press on.

[Crucis]

Don't ever fire torpedoes if there's a chance they'll hit a friendly. Common sense. 

 

 

Don't drive between enemy ships and friendly torp armed ships.  Common sense.