873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #1 Posted July 28, 2016 This isn't the first, and its not likely to be the last, but when one team has THREE detonations and the enemy team has none, there is something seriously wrong with letting a 100% RNG mechanic that is more or less not avoidable decide the outcome of a game. I've been in multiple games since patch 5.8 were there are 2, and at least twice that I can remember, 3 detonations on one team - but none on the other team. Yes, there's that handy dandy -70% detonation module upgrade - but why do players need to gimp themselves over the Main Battery upgrade because of such a randomly [edited]mechanic? Dear Wargaming, I know you don't give a crapunless it's written in Cyrillic, but please, PLEASE remove detonations from the game. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
839 Show_Me_Your_Cits Beta Testers 2,589 posts 8,799 battles Report post #2 Posted July 28, 2016 Maybe, just maybe, they'll realize when nobody take the detonation mod because it gimps their damage output because their turrets die all the time, that the MBM needs to have the reduction to detonation chance put back in. Or maybe even remove detonations entirely! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
746 [LEAK] amade Beta Testers 1,686 posts 209 battles Report post #3 Posted July 28, 2016 But, it's historically accurate! Compare with how many ships detonated on the British side at Jutland, and how many detonated on the German side 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
473 LemonadeWarrior Members 1,776 posts 6,776 battles Report post #4 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) I like having detonations in the game. Sometimes it gives a nice turnaround. I rarely do a detonation or get detonated, so I don't understand your problem with this one game or the few games you had problems with it. Perhaps sometimes more detonations happen than normally, but that has all to do with chance. Just join next battle and enjoy the game Edited July 28, 2016 by joris92 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,626 battles Report post #5 Posted July 28, 2016 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #6 Posted July 28, 2016 But, it's historically accurate! Compare with how many ships detonated on the British side at Jutland, and how many detonated on the German side Except for the whole part about how many other things about this game aren't historically accurate - and WG calls it an arcade game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,678 VGLance Banned 2,229 posts 11,923 battles Report post #7 Posted July 28, 2016 I get detonated maybe once out of 200-300 games. Then again I keep myself angled to all enemy fire nearly 100% of the time. Make angling your ship a higher priority in your focus during game play and not only will you get detonated less, but it will also help your low 41% survival rate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,790 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,753 posts 16,080 battles Report post #8 Posted July 28, 2016 I like having detonations in the game. Sometimes it gives a nice turnaround. I rarely do a detonation or get detonated, so I don't understand your problem with this one game or the few games you had problems with it. Perhaps sometimes more detonations happen than normally, but that has all to do with chance. Just join next battle and enjoy the game You play BBs mostly, which tend to not get detonated. I have been detonated in back to back games since the module changes and the game after that I detonated another player. Then the next day I get detonated on the first hit I take in my Lo Yang. They should be in the game, but the rate they are happening right now are excessive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
746 [LEAK] amade Beta Testers 1,686 posts 209 battles Report post #9 Posted July 28, 2016 Except for the whole part about how many other things about this game aren't historically accurate - and WG calls it an arcade game. You're right. Speaking of which, I should be able to do an anchor drift using Iowa. And shoot tachyon beams out of Yamato's bow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
839 Show_Me_Your_Cits Beta Testers 2,589 posts 8,799 battles Report post #10 Posted July 28, 2016 I get detonated maybe once out of 200-300 games. Then again I keep myself angled to all enemy fire nearly 100% of the time. Make angling your ship a higher priority in your focus during game play and not only will you get detonated less, but it will also help your low 41% survival rate. So your solution is to angle more? You know how much that helped when I ate a torp in the bow of my Nagato in Ranked? Or all the times its gonna help in a DD? Or how about the time when I got blown up by one shell at the start of the game in my angled Tirpitz? Or even better, how about during my angled brawl with an Iowa in my Yamato? Should I keep going? Tell me how to git gud and outsmart RNGesus! My survival rate is low so I must be terrible! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,370 Terrible_Turtle Members 5,202 posts Report post #11 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) But, it's historically accurate! Compare with how many ships detonated on the British side at Jutland, and how many detonated on the German side I'd love to see British BBs with a detonation likelihood true to history! PSA: "History" is a naughty word in WoWs. Edited July 28, 2016 by Kombat_W0MBAT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #12 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Kombat_W0MBAT, on 28 July 2016 - 08:22 AM, said: Spoiler PSA: "History" is a naughty word in WoWs. It's also taboo on the History Channel. Edited July 28, 2016 by aether_tech 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,790 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,753 posts 16,080 battles Report post #13 Posted July 28, 2016 I get detonated maybe once out of 200-300 games. Then again I keep myself angled to all enemy fire nearly 100% of the time. Make angling your ship a higher priority in your focus during game play and not only will you get detonated less, but it will also help your low 41% survival rate. Show me how to angle a Udaloi. Please, I want to see you do that successfully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
644 [APOC] DasBootcamp Members 1,982 posts 8,065 battles Report post #14 Posted July 28, 2016 It does seem like detonations have been happening more often. I even switched the first module of my USN DD's just because of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,324 [NERO] TTK_Aegis Members 3,630 posts Report post #15 Posted July 28, 2016 Honest question... I tend to run BBs mostly with cruisers secondary. My BBs are the only ones I play regularly in high tiers. I always run the anti-det module, but I very very very rarely ever lose a main gun in combat. Probably maybe one battle out of 10. Is losing your main guns a bigger problem for higher tier cruisers? It doesn't seem like it's a huge issue for BBs at any tier or mid to low cruisers. I seem to lose torpedo launchers way more than main guns on my cruisers. Have I just been lucky so far? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #16 Posted July 28, 2016 Honest question... I tend to run BBs mostly with cruisers secondary. My BBs are the only ones I play regularly in high tiers. I always run the anti-det module, but I very very very rarely ever lose a main gun in combat. Probably maybe one battle out of 10. Is losing your main guns a bigger problem for higher tier cruisers? It doesn't seem like it's a huge issue for BBs at any tier or mid to low cruisers. I seem to lose torpedo launchers way more than main guns on my cruisers. Have I just been lucky so far? I don't know about high tier cruisers, but when I used to play my Konigsberg, Cleveland, Molotov, Kutuzov, and Hipper I'd loose turrets every other match (usually one turret, sometimes two - rarely more than that, though it did happen.) However, since I haven't run a cruiser I can tell you that I've still been losing my khab, udalo, fletcher and blys guns with some regularity - usually once every few games I'll lose a turret, and I've had a few games in the last month were I lose the 2 (or in the Udaloi's case, 3) torpedo tubes.... Also played a a 5.8 tirpitz game were I lost two front turrets and both torpedo tubes.... RNG in this game is just....fucky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,675 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,250 posts 43,839 battles Report post #17 Posted July 28, 2016 Boo-friggin'-hoo. The whiny little ... special snowflakes are out again. Grow the heII up, you whiny little so-and-so's!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
964 [PLPT] SergeantHop Members 4,435 posts 6,599 battles Report post #18 Posted July 28, 2016 I've been detonated twice in my Tirpitz in the last week. Both from torpedoes, one from only 3k health (I welcomed the signals, but didn't put any on), then again the next night from full health (RNGsus reminding me that the first one should have been a sign). Even though it had been a long time since I'd seen one in my own ship, I see detonations at least every night. The fact that they're still a thing absolutely baffles me. What baffles me more is how so many people think that 100% pure, unadulterated RNG kills from full health is a good game mechanic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 AspiringCodger Beta Testers 2,029 posts Report post #19 Posted July 28, 2016 I get detonated maybe once out of 200-300 games. Then again I keep myself angled to all enemy fire nearly 100% of the time. Make angling your ship a higher priority in your focus during game play and not only will you get detonated less, but it will also help your low 41% survival rate. Angling does next to nothing to avoid a detonation in most ships. Also, 41% is not a low survival rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,324 [NERO] TTK_Aegis Members 3,630 posts Report post #20 Posted July 28, 2016 I don't know about high tier cruisers, but when I used to play my Konigsberg, Cleveland, Molotov, Kutuzov, and Hipper I'd loose turrets every other match (usually one turret, sometimes two - rarely more than that, though it did happen.) However, since I haven't run a cruiser I can tell you that I've still been losing my khab, udalo, fletcher and blys guns with some regularity - usually once every few games I'll lose a turret, and I've had a few games in the last month were I lose the 2 (or in the Udaloi's case, 3) torpedo tubes.... Also played a a 5.8 tirpitz game were I lost two front turrets and both torpedo tubes.... RNG in this game is just....fucky. Seems like the torpedo tubes on Tirpitz are the first things to go. I've had them blown off as I was lining up a shot with them. Haven't played many DD games except low tier stuff so no experience there to speak off, but it sounds like their guns are pretty fragile. /And/ they are the most likely ships to go boom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 [PSV] madmikey77 Members 536 posts 22,434 battles Report post #21 Posted July 28, 2016 Best RNG I've seen with detonation was my friend detonating another DD in his Khab. He was still chuckling in our voice chat when he was detonated himself a few seconds later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
662 [13TH] HMCS_Devilfish Members 4,901 posts 9,124 battles Report post #22 Posted July 28, 2016 Detonations suck !!!!.... if I get Detonated it ruins my game Detonations are Great!!!! ...if its the other guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,228 battles Report post #23 Posted July 28, 2016 Been detonated daily for last few 3 days. helps replenish my JCs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14 [GC] Caderius Beta Testers 206 posts 5,207 battles Report post #24 Posted July 28, 2016 Angling does next to nothing to avoid a detonation in most ships. Also, 41% is not a low survival rate. I can attest to this, last time I got detonated was in a Tirpitz. Got hit in the nose with a torpedo and that somehow detonated me -.- and I'm 100% sure it was the Torpedo because it was just me and an Aoba in a knife fight. I got unlucky and killed the little bugger a second after he launched his torps. Only took one of them but it was enough *sigh* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,085 [WOLF2] TheDreadnought Beta Testers 4,720 posts Report post #25 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Detonations are fine. I've had 3 I think, out of 1000+ games? Generally speaking, ships that get detonated are going to die shortly anyway. It's rare that a detonation occurs out of the blue to a ship that isn't already screwed. Edited July 28, 2016 by TheDreadnought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites