Well.... Now I guess I'm fked?

[holycrazyasian]

Soooooo we all know the news of sa being for everyone and that we now get Bos for free..... Now while for most free players it may be annoying in that you have to dismiss ur captain and get a new one if u r the hard core I have to have the best commander group.... There is a certain problem..... What if... Just what if ur commander that u want to optimize is the arp myoko (recently got her to 15 then found out about this skill point reset thingy after I spent my points)...... U cannot recruit a arp myoko captain btw...... So I guess I'm fked?

[holycrazyasian]

Please skill reset pretty please

[Compassghost]

I don't understand the question.

[Ukrainian_Farmer]

I'm not understanding your problem. Why do you have to dismiss your commanders? Why does making SA always available and moving that point to BoS ruin your build? The other 1 point skills aren't really any good for a Myoko anyway, unless you feel like boosting your secondaries for some reason. And even then, its pretty cheap to retrain your captain.

[devastator5000]

Could pay for the skill reset its 5 dollars at most

[Moksie]

Soooooo we all know the news of sa being for everyone and that we now get Bos for free..... Now while for most free players it may be annoying in that you have to dismiss ur captain and get a new one if u r the hard core I have to have the best commander group.... There is a certain problem..... What if... Just what if ur commander that u want to optimize is the arp myoko (recently got her to 15 then found out about this skill point reset thingy after I spent my points)...... U cannot recruit a arp myoko captain btw...... So I guess I'm fked?

 

​You spend 5 days grinding around the clock for a point to replace the T1 and beg your team not to go the wall and throw the match.

[holycrazyasian]

If u want to optimize ur build aka aim for the best u will find it worth dismissing commander and retaining one which u beilive have the best build (aka bft over Bos for some plate styles ) (aka opportunity cost ect ect) but problem comes that u cannot rehire a new myoko captain due to it being a event given captain 

[holycrazyasian]

Also to us free to play players there are numerous reasons why we cannot dish out the 5 bucks 

[Ukrainian_Farmer]

If u want to optimize ur build aka aim for the best u will find it worth dismissing commander and retaining one which u beilive have the best build (aka bft over Bos for some plate styles ) (aka opportunity cost ect ect) but problem comes that u cannot rehire a new myoko captain due to it being a event given captain 

 

That takes forever, so I actually do not find it worth it.

[RogueFlameHaze]

If u want to optimize ur build aka aim for the best u will find it worth dismissing commander and retaining one which u beilive have the best build (aka bft over Bos for some plate styles ) (aka opportunity cost ect ect) but problem comes that u cannot rehire a new myoko captain due to it being a event given captain 

 

not unless you really felt the need to regrind... as stated all of them don't have a huge effect on myoko, so just hold onto it until you can reset the captain, or WG resets it for some other reason. There really is no need to dismiss commanders that are basically trained for what you are using.

[Naughtius_Maximus]

BFT isn't really a required skill for the Myoko though. It's not like it'll make your AA suddenly worthwhile. IJN CAs will still primarily rely on Defensive Fire for aircraft defense.

[Captain_Dorja]

Just use a point that you're saving towards a tier 5 skill on the rank 1 skill you want instead. You then get the point in SA back, and you lose nothing.

 

Not hard. Gavorche pointed this out like a week ago, but no one seems to notice or care. There is literally no need for a full skill reset. WarGaming have straight up told everyone how to get around any potential problems. If people aren't smart enough to A)read the news on the portal and be informed and or B) figure out what that news means, than they really have only themselves to blame.

[holycrazyasian]

U do lose something....that is y I said opportunity cost...... Economics dude.....

Let us say out of the 19 possible points I used all 19 on a certain build that includes bft and let give it a net worth of X

For me Bos is worth less then bft (some might think it is worth more but I am concerned with people who think Bos is worth less)

If as stated before bFT +A+B+.....+N= X  and the equation bos + A+B+......N=y where the constants A,b,......n are all positive real numbers that are defined then since BFT>BOS we X must > Y and thus by not getting bft for people who find bft > BOs u r LOSING M in which M = BFT- BOS and since BFT > BOS M must be positive THUS A NET LOSS

 

[holycrazyasian]

So don't give me the I don't lose anything [edited]math states that if I find BFT> BOS I lose something (AkA OPPPRTUNITY COST)

[Naughtius_Maximus]

Then......get wrecked?

[RogueFlameHaze]

If your worrying THAT much, do as stated above, either grind out another T1 skill or get some coin to refresh your captain. Or, take the risk and delete your captains because you feel the need to start anew.

[holycrazyasian]

Ya.... I'm on vacation can't grind myoko....

[Sir_Apocolypse]

So what is the problem, you still have to grind the same point for BFT if they changed nothing.  Now you are getting SA and BoS, and still have to grind to get BFT, just like you would have anyways.  At least now you can grind with less fire time and flooding.  Will affect some of my builds as well, but then I'm a grown up and can deal with it.

[crzyhawk]

<WG>: Devastating Strike!

[holycrazyasian]

<WG>: Devastating Strike!

 

I am hoping for a it is just a flesh wound

[gurudennis]

I am hoping for a it is just a flesh wound

 

[SPACEDUDE71]

arp myoko is the worst ship to spendball that effort on a capt.

no matter what u do. an arp ship is inferior to its normal ship.

then u take the limited road to grind an arp capt to 15. knowing its limited.

then u dont have an extra point hanging around.

and u arent already using the repair skill? something that ship should have.

seems u have a larger problem than whats happening in this game.

[Captain_Dorja]

U do lose something....that is y I said opportunity cost...... Economics dude.....

Let us say out of the 19 possible points I used all 19 on a certain build that includes bft and let give it a net worth of X

For me Bos is worth less then bft (some might think it is worth more but I am concerned with people who think Bos is worth less)

If as stated before bFT +A+B+.....+N= X  and the equation bos + A+B+......N=y where the constants A,b,......n are all positive real numbers that are defined then since BFT>BOS we X must > Y and thus by not getting bft for people who find bft > BOs u r LOSING M in which M = BFT- BOS and since BFT > BOS M must be positive THUS A NET LOSS

 

 

There is no lost opportunity costs in what I said. Example. My Lexington captain has 3 points saved. That's not enough for the rank 5 skill. My Lexington has SA, but I'd rather have BFT than SE when the patch comes, so I took one point and put it into BFT. There is no possible chance that I'm going to grind out enough exp on that ship (or any other ship) for me to get enough points on my Lex captain to be able to unlock Air Superiority before the patch, so before I could use the points I'm spending, I will get it back for free.

 

In order for there to be opportunity cost, there needs to be an opportunity for me to point that point to valuable work in some other way before the patch. That's why it's called "opportunity cost." You cannot incur and opportunity cost when there is no opportunity to be missed by whatever action is being claimed to incur the cost. Those points are more valuable being saved up for a rank 5 skill than they are being used for some lower level skills, hence, there is no opportunity to be missed.

 

If you're going to go all deep thinking mode, and bust out things like the opportunity cost of this system, you need to go full circle with it and actually think about what you're saying.

 

To break it down for the people who are still upset, if Gavorche's method is being used, this is what the SA changes get everyone.

1. SA skill for free on all ships, all the time, for all of time (that's pretty valuable)

2. Whatever other tier 1 skill you want for the price which would be paid for SA (since many people take SA as the rank 1 skill on all ships, in many, many, many cases, this skill is also essentially free)

3. A refund of the skill point used to manipulate the system to get you the rank 1 skill of your choice.

 

This is what people lose if they use Gavorche's method.

1. An excuse to b1tch at WarGaming for not giving them exaclty everything they want, instantly, and at no cost.