Unified Currency across WG Games?

[Das_Schlippo]

I searched several different terms to see if this had been addressed before as I'm sure it has.  Unfortunately, the forum search was about as useful as male nipples.

 

I have 1575 gold still on my WoT account.  I don't really plan on ever playing WoT again.  I would love to be able to use that gold (which I paid for) in WoWS, but it seems like we're never getting a unified premium currency.  WoWP (RIP) and WoT accounts were unified pretty quickly after Warplanes went live.  What's the holdup with unifying all accounts across WoT, WoWP and WoWS?

[IronWolfV]

I searched several different terms to see if this had been addressed before as I'm sure it has.  Unfortunately, the forum search was about as useful as male nipples.

 

I have 1575 gold still on my WoT account.  I don't really plan on ever playing WoT again.  I would love to be able to use that gold (which I paid for) in WoWS, but it seems like we're never getting a unified premium currency.  WoWP (RIP) and WoT accounts were unified pretty quickly after Warplanes went live.  What's the holdup with unifying all accounts across WoT, WoWP and WoWS?

 

From what I have gathered, I don't think it's ever going to happen, or if it does it's still a LOONNNGGG ways off.

[Special_Kay]

It was promised with the change from open  beta to release, then we were told it wouldn't happen until later, now they're very carefully not saying anything at all. I've quoted Nyx I think it was, a few times, if you care to search my post history. Or I can dig it up after this match.

[Rissien]

Topic actually comes up once every few weeks or so. So far its just been not now not for a while if ever.

[Lert]

Several problems with unifying currency.

 

1) There are a lot of people who still have a ton of gold in WoT, WG worries that allowing all that gold to be used in WoWS would upset what they call the 'economy' of floaty boats.

2) WG wants population across both WoT and WoWS, unifying currency would promote migration from one game to the other, rather than people playing both games

3) The economy in WoWS is very different from WoT. For example, a single doubloon is worth 1500 credits in WoWS, and only 400 credits in WoT. XP is also far more easily earned in WoWS than in WoT, as is credits.

 

We don't have a clear answer on when, if at all, we're going to get unified economies, but my best educated guess is somewhere between 'never' and 'january 2073'.

[Das_Schlippo]

I wonder why they don't want to do it.  Maybe they're afraid of people with huge piles of gold and free WoT XP using it to bypass most of the lower reaches of the tech tree?  That didn't seem to be an issue when they unified Tanks and Warplanes accounts almost immediately after Warplanes went live.

 

Thanks for the explanation, Lert.

 

Another question...if I dump my remaining WoT gold into a premium account, that carries over to WoWS, right?  I am broke as a joke after an unintended career change, and grinding ships with a standard account is making many Sadz.

[Special_Kay]

This is all that I've got. Note that Nyx posted it exactly two weeks before we reached "release" (which, in light of the lack of unification, isn't a meaningful distinction).

 

As best as I recall the last word we received was this (as you can see by the folks who quoted her before she changed it):

We do not have plans to further unify the Wargaming accounts yet. Premium time is shared across WoT PC, WoWP, and WoWS, but that is the only unification that you can expect to see for the time being. Gold/Doubloons and Free XP will remain game specific, and not shared from other titles to WoWS.

It was subsequently edited to this:

Currently premium accounts for the whole trilogy are unified as well as login, password, nickname etc. All information about any sort of further account unification will come with a separate announcement.

Emphases mine.

 

If memory serves, that was our first official indication that anything would happen besides their earlier promise of full unification—which was construed to be the only material change in the OBT–release transition.

 

I'm inclined to agree with Lert's inference. They probably realized they were about to make a mistake, and opted to simply never speak of it again. That way they avoid catalyzing an outcry, and keep their options open for the future.

[Morpheus29]

Wait for premium time to go on sale and spend your gold then.

[Flametz]

Several problems with unifying currency.

 

1) There are a lot of people who still have a ton of gold in WoT, WG worries that allowing all that gold to be used in WoWS would upset what they call the 'economy' of floaty boats.

2) WG wants population across both WoT and WoWS, unifying currency would promote migration from one game to the other, rather than people playing both games

3) The economy in WoWS is very different from WoT. For example, a single doubloon is worth 1500 credits in WoWS, and only 400 credits in WoT. XP is also far more easily earned in WoWS than in WoT, as is credits.

 

We don't have a clear answer on when, if at all, we're going to get unified economies, but my best educated guess is somewhere between 'never' and 'january 2073'.

 

Unfortunately without unified currency comes without unified clans (like WoWs and WoT), which goes directly against WG's desire for a "universe"

 

The shared premium time was probably a halfway point for them before deciding to stop there.

 

Also, while yes 1 doubloon gives more credits, I think you also missed out on how INFLATED ALL THE PRICES ARE IN THIS GAME. Tier 10 racking up 20 mil credits while in WoT it's around 6.1 million.

Don't get me started with equipment in this game going up to ~2 million while in WoT it's 800k at most (and for something rather useless, the good stuff are 500k-600k)

 

That aside, we'll get shared gold eventually, if the gold cuts in WoT tournaments are anything to look at it might be preparation to make people low in WoT gold before it becomes shared.

[awiggin]

Can't bring in more money by allowing players with stockpiles in WOT to get a free ride here.......

 

[Special_Kay]

Can't bring in more money by allowing players with stockpiles in WOT to get a free ride here.......

 

The flipside is that Warships' team battle leagues, ranked seasons, and high-tier battles in general all suffer for want of population.

 

I think it's one of those things where, if all games involved are high-quality products, increasing player mobility is a boon. On the other hand, if there's a stinker, you'll sink it by increasing player mobility. *Looks at Warplanes*

[ADM_Zakk_Zero]

Several problems with unifying currency.

 

1) There are a lot of people who still have a ton of gold in WoT, WG worries that allowing all that gold to be used in WoWS would upset what they call the 'economy' of floaty boats.

2) WG wants population across both WoT and WoWS, unifying currency would promote migration from one game to the other, rather than people playing both games

3) The economy in WoWS is very different from WoT. For example, a single doubloon is worth 1500 credits in WoWS, and only 400 credits in WoT. XP is also far more easily earned in WoWS than in WoT, as is credits.

 

We don't have a clear answer on when, if at all, we're going to get unified economies, but my best educated guess is somewhere between 'never' and 'january 2073'.

^^+1 Although WoWS is the only game in the WG universe that I have played, I was bothered by the non-unified currency and thought it made no sense. I learned a harsh lesson when via both the forum and through customer support I was lead to believe I could simply buy "coins"-the exact term used in both cases- to make a slight change to my account username. Only after my doubloon purchase (I had not yet seen anything to distinctly identify there was any difference between coin currencies) for that sole reason did I learn that there was a clear delineation between WoWS doubloons and WoT/WoWP gold, and that WG account maintenance specifically requires gold.  

That being said, Lert, your answer to why this was the case was awesome and it should allow most critics, like I was until a short time ago, to at least see the logic and reasoning. I, and many others, will still not like the separate currencies,  but I now get it.  Thank you for that post.

[Mesrith]

I have 1575 gold still on my WoT account.  I don't really plan on ever playing WoT again.  I would love to be able to use that gold (which I paid for) in WoWS

 

If you still have the World of Tanks client installed, you can log in and buy premium time with that gold.  Premium time is unified, so if you buy premium in World of Tanks, you have premium in World of Warships as well.  That's what I did with my stash of WoT gold last year when it became clear that they weren't unifying the currency anytime soon.  Unfortunately, your amount of gold might only get you about a week's worth of premium time unless you watch for a sale event.

 

I'm not sure why they haven't combined currencies yet.  It made some amount of sense last year to prevent a flood of people throwing WoT gold at a new game, but I think it could only be beneficial now, not harmful.

[Judge_Doom]

When I first started playing WoWs, part of it was based on the concept/idea/rumor that all currency would be unified, quite a number of my friends also came over and started playing from WOT, when it became clear that currency was not going to be unified, is when they all stopped.  Perhaps WG is fearful that if they unified the currency there would be such an influx of players leaving WOT that it may be a death notice for that game, not saying it would die, but yeah, I could see a mass exodus from it.  Take notice WG, players want to use what they already have in the bank as in unified, they don't want to have to shell out for new currency, personally I think you are missing the boat by not making it unified. JMO.

[FratStar4Life]

I honestly don't think they ever have any intention of unifying accounts across the games. Let's think of it this way. There are people with hundreds of thousands of gold on WoT, those players will never spend another dime the moment they unify. This is also why we have not seen clans, clan wars, and tournaments as these types of events are a source of gold income.

 

WG has already stated that this is their most profitable game and I think they intend to keep it that way. Don't be too surprised if we never get unification or any reward based competitions.

[gurudennis]

There's too much gold in the WoT economy from all the events. I don't think they want it to flood the WoWs market. It's understandable.

[ADM_Zakk_Zero]

When I first started playing WoWs, part of it was based on the concept/idea/rumor that all currency would be unified, quite a number of my friends also came over and started playing from WOT, when it became clear that currency was not going to be unified, is when they all stopped.  Perhaps WG is fearful that if they unified the currency there would be such an influx of players leaving WOT that it may be a death notice for that game, not saying it would die, but yeah, I could see a mass exodus from it.  Take notice WG, players want to use what they already have in the bank as in unified, they don't want to have to shell out for new currency, personally I think you are missing the boat by not making it unified. JMO.

I absolutely agree, but that dreaded business model somehow strikes again. That thing obliterates a lot of things in it's neighborhood that are good and decent. Maybe it should be added into WoWS as it's own vessel with a tough-sounding name like the "Colossus Modelus Businessus", which would have to be at least a tier XX battleship....

[IronWolfV]

I wonder why they don't want to do it.  Maybe they're afraid of people with huge piles of gold and free WoT XP using it to bypass most of the lower reaches of the tech tree?  That didn't seem to be an issue when they unified Tanks and Warplanes accounts almost immediately after Warplanes went live.

 

Thanks for the explanation, Lert.

 

Another question...if I dump my remaining WoT gold into a premium account, that carries over to WoWS, right?  I am broke as a joke after an unintended career change, and grinding ships with a standard account is making many Sadz.

 

Yes, premium time is unified so if you dump it in any 1 of the 3 games, you get the same premium time. So that is worth it.

[Lert]

Also, while yes 1 doubloon gives more credits, I think you also missed out on how INFLATED ALL THE PRICES ARE IN THIS GAME. Tier 10 racking up 20 mil credits while in WoT it's around 6.1 million.

 

OP asked for unified currency. I took that to also include credits. Since, you know, credits = the base currency in both games.

 

So, say they unify credits and gold / duhblooms. Get 500 gold through whatever means. Convert that to credits in WoT, get 2m credits you can use in WoT and WoWS. Convert it in WoWS, get 7.5m credits you can use in WoT and WoWS. See the issue?

 

if I dump my remaining WoT gold into a premium account, that carries over to WoWS, right?

 

Yes. Premium time is shared between the games.

[MagisterAurelius]

Remember when they tried to convince a bunch of WoT players on the RU server to try WoWs with a mass amount of doubloons and credits and it went over like a fart in church?  I do think the amount of player cannibalization would be far less than WG fears.  But their fear is a legitimate one.  Then again, the NA server for WoT is contracting big time.

[Flametz]

 

OP asked for unified currency. I took that to also include credits. Since, you know, credits = the base currency in both games.

 

So, say they unify credits and gold / duhblooms. Get 500 gold through whatever means. Convert that to credits in WoT, get 2m credits you can use in WoT and WoWS. Convert it in WoWS, get 7.5m credits you can use in WoT and WoWS. See the issue?

 

 

Yes. Premium time is shared between the games.

 

Yes, though I thought OP only wanted to unify Doubloons/gold, credits be damned.

 

He only noted gold in his OP, and didn't have any mention of credits. Also, when he referred to unified currency it was in premium currency only (free exp and gold, much like WoWP and WoT sharing the 2)

[Lert]

OP simply said 'currency' in his title. I answered for all currency. I fail to see what the problem is? Does him not specifically mentioning credits mean that I am not allowed to include them in my answer or something?

[Das_Schlippo]

I wouldn't mind bringing the millions of credits I have in WoT over, either! 

[Flametz]

OP simply said 'currency' in his title. I answered for all currency. I fail to see what the problem is? Does him not specifically mentioning credits mean that I am not allowed to include them in my answer or something?

 

I mean I was already well aware credit unification would be a massive fail, just thought you misread OP on that :|

 

And getting talked down like a 5 year old on "credit unification = fail" elicits defensive responses btw, especially when the target has been playing WoT for over 3 years, and WoWs for nearly 2 now. Apologies for the rudeness but seeing the passive aggressiveness in that post from a very minor misunderstanding is pretty infuriating after a long day of dealing with less-than-pleasant people.

[General_Strom]

When Wot first came out WG said that Premium time, gold and credits could be used as "one" account and could be spent in any of the three games.   As is typical of WG they have lied once again.   Does this surprise me.  No just pisses me off.