24 [WHARF] TetraethylLead Beta Testers 134 posts 22,635 battles Report post #1 Posted July 24, 2016 So, I recently purchased the Mogami but I only really consider it a stepping stone to the Zao. I've read about how atrocious the 155s are but I've also seen that they seem passable if you build specifically to use them. My question here is, what is everyones view on free exping the B hull and the 203s and then grinding the range module and C hull normally? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #2 Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Definitely free XP the B hull. But maybe you should try the 155mms before you free XP to the 203s, because some people like them a lot. I myself often play the 155s for fun. Also, you should free XP the rangefinder upgrade. It becomes really dangerous to get that close to battleships at that tier. Edited July 24, 2016 by Aduial 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,728 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,538 posts 12,810 battles Report post #3 Posted July 24, 2016 I'd probably do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #4 Posted July 24, 2016 So, I recently purchased the Mogami but I only really consider it a stepping stone the Zao. I've read about how atrocious the 155s are but I've also seen that they seem passable if you build specifically to use them. My question here is, what is everyones view on free exping the B hull and the 203s and then grinding the range module and C hull normally? If you like Atago you wont mind the 203's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,940 [ASHIP] Grevester Members 5,454 posts 12,933 battles Report post #5 Posted July 24, 2016 The 155s on mogami are still great. Spec it for fire chance and concealment, try to shoot over island corners whenever possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
493 [KVLT] Zhoyzu [KVLT] Members 2,307 posts 9,146 battles Report post #6 Posted July 24, 2016 go 203s mogami isnt worth skipping its a fantastic ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #7 Posted July 24, 2016 Those 155s? Horrible? If you think they suck, then apparently the Cleveland must be an abomination to you. Imo, the Mogamin's 155s are as amazing as the Russian 155s - extremely fast shells that deal good damage. Only downside to them is the turret traverse, but I think it's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
493 [KVLT] Zhoyzu [KVLT] Members 2,307 posts 9,146 battles Report post #8 Posted July 24, 2016 Those 155s? Horrible? If you think they suck, then apparently the Cleveland must be an abomination to you. Imo, the Mogamin's 155s are as amazing as the Russian 155s - extremely fast shells that deal good damage. Only downside to them is the turret traverse, but I think it's worth. 155s imo are trash. but its a playstyle thing. I like DD hunting and getting up close and personal. The 155s dont turn fast enough so the ship out turns the turrets which could mean death when DD hunting. 203s have a flatter arc and great AP penning potential on other cruisers. The range reduction form cptn skill nerf really puts the 155s below sub par 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #9 Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) 155s imo are trash. but its a playstyle thing. I like DD hunting and getting up close and personal. The 155s dont turn fast enough so the ship out turns the turrets which could mean death when DD hunting. 203s have a flatter arc and great AP penning potential on other cruisers. The range reduction form cptn skill nerf really puts the 155s below sub par 15 gun 155mm broadside absolutely wrecks DDs. Literally, best guns and number of guns to wreck DDs is 155mm Mogami. Nothing beats Mogami for HE DPM, until you get to DM. Edited July 24, 2016 by MrDeaf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
819 [WOLFG] 4bRbyHSSzZ6pk Members 4,300 posts Report post #10 Posted July 24, 2016 I liked the Mogami with the 203mm guns, used them even back when the 155s were not nerfed yet due to my diskike for smaller guns in anything but destroyers. It's a good ship if played right, no matter which of the guns you choose she can perform very well for her tier. The good thing about her is that there are two viable different playstyles for her, something very few ships in this game can offer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #11 Posted July 24, 2016 15 gun 155mm broadside absolutely wrecks DDs. Literally, best guns and number of guns to wreck DDs is 155mm Mogami. Nothing beats Mogami for HE DPM, until you get to DM. They only rek DDs if your guns are actually pointing the right way. Otherwise you have to spend ages trying to get your guns to turn toward them, which is near impossible because you have to be maneuvering to avoid torps. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #12 Posted July 24, 2016 They only rek DDs if your guns are actually pointing the right way. Otherwise you have to spend ages trying to get your guns to turn toward them, which is near impossible because you have to be maneuvering to avoid torps. that's to do with strategical positioning and anticipating where the DD will be, so that your guns will be facing the correct direction when it is spotted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #13 Posted July 24, 2016 that's to do with strategical positioning and anticipating where the DD will be, so that your guns will be facing the correct direction when it is spotted. Sure, i bet you always have your guns trained on DDs when they appear, because they're so predictable and they're the only ones on the map. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #14 Posted July 24, 2016 Sure, i bet you always have your guns trained on DDs when they appear, because they're so predictable and they're the only ones on the map. I think it's pretty easy predicting where the DDs will be. They usually go to caps, just like friendly DDs should be doing. If the DDs decided to skirt around the edges of the map, then whatever, they're totally useless for 90% of the game anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #15 Posted July 24, 2016 The 155s on mogami are still great. Spec it for fire chance and concealment, try to shoot over island corners whenever possible. Not true. Any form of side-to-side movement renders your guns unable to fire, and you have to zig-zag in the Mogami, it's armor is horrific. Not to mention if you need to turn your guns to the other side of the ship, have fun being useless for a full minute. Definitely run the 203s. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
143 Gandariel Beta Testers 898 posts 14,840 battles Report post #16 Posted July 24, 2016 I personally enjoy 155 mogami more then 203 and ven late i was 203 time to time still jump back. Its fun. You dont kill much mut you fire them all From Aoba ++ there is not nesacary free xp its fun. Save free XP on Baltimore US, or Yorck GER, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 43,993 battles Report post #17 Posted July 24, 2016 Mogami used to be the jewel of T8. Borderline OP with the 155 mm pre-nerf. Then they became molasses. Moved to 203 and did the grind. Not a bad ship, but not better than Atago with 203 mm, and I rather play Myoko, the same ship a tier lower. Mogami was sold when Ibuki came, Myoko is still in port. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,072 [SVER] Sinboto Beta Testers 3,811 posts 10,084 battles Report post #18 Posted July 24, 2016 With the new turret turn upgrade you can get the mogami's 155s to tolerable levels of turning, I want to rebuy mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
697 Brofisticus Beta Testers 2,196 posts Report post #19 Posted July 24, 2016 Its a good ship, even stock. Naysayers are probably just bad at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
64 Astralite Beta Testers 282 posts 4,998 battles Report post #20 Posted July 24, 2016 I like the 155 mogami better than the Zao, at least it has some unique flavor to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,644 [O7] 1nv4d3rZ1m Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 12,147 posts 9,111 battles Report post #21 Posted July 24, 2016 I personally free xped the FCS module and ground everything else. The 155s are fine you can get the turret traverse down to 38 seconds which is perfectly adequate. If you don't want to play the 155s that's your decision but you should at least try them imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #22 Posted July 24, 2016 I still remember when Mogami was a BAMF tier 7 and one of what 2 cruisers that could go toe to toe with a BB and win, other being Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 R1CK Beta Testers 930 posts 5,765 battles Report post #23 Posted July 24, 2016 I played it stock for a game, then I FXPd the FCS and played another game... Then I used FXP to unlock everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,728 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,538 posts 12,810 battles Report post #24 Posted July 24, 2016 With the new turret turn upgrade you can get the mogami's 155s to tolerable levels of turning, I want to rebuy mine. Your idea of tolerable and mine are not the same. I can't stand turrets that move so slowly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,940 [ASHIP] Grevester Members 5,454 posts 12,933 battles Report post #25 Posted July 24, 2016 Not true. Any form of side-to-side movement renders your guns unable to fire, and you have to zig-zag in the Mogami, it's armor is horrific. Not to mention if you need to turn your guns to the other side of the ship, have fun being useless for a full minute. Definitely run the 203s. you can't do it =/= it can't be done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
