4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #1 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Greetings all, Just got back from premier night of Star Trek Beyond. Before I go any further I have to say that I liked it allot. Of course I have my nitpicks, but overall very good. And VERY action packed! Now then, on to my hypothesis..... I believe the next movie (which has officially been confirmed) will feature an Excelsior class, and possibly even the Enterprise B. Why? Because, there is a scene in the movie (dont worry, I promised no spoilers and this is not a big spoiler) where Kirk and the Commodore are having a conversation. During this conversation Kirk volunteers the Enterprise for a rescue mission, the Commodore responds with something along the lines of "Well, the Enterprise is currently the most advanced ship in Star Fleet as the only ship we have that is more advanced has not yet been completed". Again, that's a lose quote, but you get the point. What could be more advanced than a Constitution class? Well yes, the Vengeance is more advanced but I doubt Start Fleet is building another one. Especially because Vengeance was built soley for combat, and Star Fleet doesnt build combat ships (at least not until Defiant). The answer is the Excelsior class! Anyways this is just dseehafer breaking out the old tinfoil hat again.... but I have my reasons and suspicions. Also the Enterprise Refit which is revealed at the end of the movie is is ugly as all [edited]. (I said no spoilers, we see the Enterprise get more or less destroyed in the movie trailers and the refit was shown in a recent magazine. I spoiled nothing) So I'd be more than happy to get an Enterprise B. Enterprise B, Excelsior class As long as were talking about the next movie..... How are they going to kill off Chekhov? Or are they just going to get a different actor? Also, RIP Anton Can we finally get a movie with Klingons as the main bad guys??? I mean, In to Darkness told us that "War with the Klingons is inevitable" In all honesty Star Trek Beyond should have been about the war with the Klingons. I dont know why they keep putting it off. Edited July 23, 2016 by dseehafer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #2 Posted July 23, 2016 Down with Star Trek.....Star Wars all the way!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #3 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Down with Star Trek.....Star Wars all the way!!! Aaaaaaaaand RIP thread Also, there would be no Star Wars if it wasnt for Star Trek. Edited July 23, 2016 by dseehafer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #4 Posted July 23, 2016 Would be interesting to see what the JJ verse would change to such a loved design, I would love to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
771 klymar8 ∞ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,191 posts 12,721 battles Report post #5 Posted July 23, 2016 They could do an Enterprise C . After all a model of it probably exists somewhere since they had one for a STNG episode . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,280 [CD47] Moksie Alpha Tester 11,714 posts 25,094 battles Report post #6 Posted July 23, 2016 I'm disappointed CBS won't let Axanar happen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #7 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) I looked at a few Pictures, and found these to be fairly reasonable designed for a JJ-based B, and C Enterprise. What do you think? I find them to be quite nice actually, since they are quite sleek. Edited July 23, 2016 by Imperium_Titan_Roma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #8 Posted July 23, 2016 They could do an Enterprise C . After all a model of it probably exists somewhere since they had one for a STNG episode . Etiher one, both hardly get any screen time in the in the movies and/or TV series. The B and C deserve their time in the spotlight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #9 Posted July 23, 2016 Etiher one, both hardly get any screen time in the in the movies and/or TV series. The B and C deserve their time in the spotlight. Indeed, they were both beautiful designs back in the day , and I would love to see them represented in the JJ-Verse soon~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #10 Posted July 23, 2016 I looked at a few Pictures, and found these to be fairly reasonable designed for a JJ-based B, and C Enterprise. What do you think? I find them to be quite nice actually, since they are quite sleek. I like 'em, sleek, futuristic and "hip" appears to be what JJ and his team are after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
766 [SPTR] khaenn35 Members 20,155 posts 6,159 battles Report post #11 Posted July 23, 2016 *ducks for cover before the Star Wars v Star Trek arguments begin* I mean, I love Star Wars more by a far margin, but both are awesome in their own way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #12 Posted July 23, 2016 They could do an Enterprise C . After all a model of it probably exists somewhere since they had one for a STNG episode . I'd really love to see a Kelvin Timeline movie with the Enterprise C (or something like it) that was actually planned, but because of deadlines and stuff, never actually used, of course it'd be "JJ-ified" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,768 [-K-] Lord_Zath Supertest Coordinator, Alpha Tester, WoWS Community Contributors, Wiki Editor 6,631 posts 29,082 battles Report post #13 Posted July 23, 2016 Haven't seen the movie yet. Glad to hear it's good. Would LOVE to see the Enterprise B in a movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,361 WanderingGhost Alpha Tester 5,281 posts 12,191 battles Report post #14 Posted July 23, 2016 You mean a new Star Trek movie. They were basically the main villain of 3. That said, I'd think they'd simply say that maybe he was transferred or retired from Starfleet. No muss, no fuss, just do it better than how they did it with nightcrawler in X-3. It's the studio's call, but those are what I'd go with. More often than not I feel recasting doesn't usually work. You have to try and get someone that looks the same, can duplicate mannerisms and all the other actor had or gave the character. Sure I think there are a couple good ones out there but usually, Dark Knight, IronMan 2 (nothing against Don Cheadle, I liked Terrance Howard more and it's a pretty drastic change), Harvey Dent in Batman Forever (much as I kinda like Jones portrayal first reaction was "wait what?"), it can just be jarring and take you out of the movie. Find a way to just acknowledge the character is still alive and well in the universe, and in time, because I doubt they'll stop at 4 unless forced, wait till it's less recent, the characters have aged a bit, so you can bring in someone thats close enough and the difference can be explained by the fact he's that much older now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 Slyv Members 128 posts 10,169 battles Report post #15 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) I'm disappointed CBS won't let Axanar happen. Yeah that looked like it had the potential to be very very good. I'm not holding my breath but it would be great if they could eventually work something out...... Edited July 23, 2016 by Slyv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,731 Eisennagel Beta Testers 11,728 posts Report post #16 Posted July 23, 2016 Newer ship can mean anything, ranging from Miranda class to Constitution A subclass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #17 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Newer ship can mean anything, ranging from Miranda class to Constitution A subclass. She didnt say newer, she said "more advanced". (the commodore is a 'she' BTW) A Miranda is not more advanced than a Constitution and the Constitution A subclass is what the Enterprise becomes at the end of the movie after her rebuild. Also, as long as were talking about JJ Mirandas Edited July 23, 2016 by dseehafer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #18 Posted July 23, 2016 She didnt say newer, she said "more advanced". (the commodore is a 'she' BTW) A Miranda is not more advanced than a Constitution and the Constitution A subclass is what the Enterprise becomes at the end of the movie after her rebuild. Also, as long as were talking about JJ Mirandas In the first movie, when they all warp to Vulcan, most of the warp nacelles on the other ships look really boring, just a grey cylinder, some of those look somewhat similar to the Miranda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
486 Fog_Battleship_Tosa Members 2,393 posts 4,253 battles Report post #19 Posted July 23, 2016 "she's got transwarp drive" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #20 Posted July 24, 2016 In the first movie, when they all warp to Vulcan, most of the warp nacelles on the other ships look really boring, just a grey cylinder, some of those look somewhat similar to the Miranda. I believe you are talking about these... Armstrong class Mayflower class Newton class Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,731 Eisennagel Beta Testers 11,728 posts Report post #21 Posted July 24, 2016 Holy Hubcaps. The USS Discovery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,921 mr3awsome Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 11,461 posts 1,963 battles Report post #22 Posted July 24, 2016 They've said they won't replace the actor for Chekov. As for how he dies in the universe, I would guess off screen like Old Spork/Smock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #23 Posted July 24, 2016 Holy Hubcaps. The USS Discovery. It looks pretty horrible for something that's after ENT but before TOS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #24 Posted July 24, 2016 Holy Hubcaps. The USS Discovery. It looks pretty horrible for something that's after ENT but before TOS. I hate it, it's a D7 with a saucer. Say what you will about the JJprise, but at least it bloody looks like a federation ship! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #25 Posted July 24, 2016 I hate it, it's a D7 with a saucer. Say what you will about the JJprise, but at least it bloody looks like a federation ship! I don't mind the design itself that much (though it's definitely not my favourite) but what really bothers me is how different it is from the TOS design style. I'm fine with a pre-federation ship like the NX-01 not being in TOS style, but isn't NCC-1031 going to place it in the middle of TOS times? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
