FIX THE MOGAMI ALREADY

[Skyfaller]

Un-Nerf the turret rotation rate.

 

As it is Mogami belongs in tier 6. The guns even with turret rotation rate capt skill and ship upgrade CANNOT keep up with the ship on 1pnt of rudder. This is a mentally deficient gameplay decision.

 

 

FIX THIS THING ALREADY WG.

 

 

 

[Goose21891]

You could always use the 203s, since you're stuck with them on the Ibuki anyway

[Sakuzhi]

It's already borderline OP.

 

Stop whining, use the 203s or get good.

[Macabe]

Use the 203s. They are and have always been quite good.

[Legendary_Typo]

It's already borderline OP.

 

Stop whining, use the 203s or get good.

 

I'd agree with pre-nerf Mogami being borderline OP, but I don't see how that applies to the current Mogami.

[YamatoA150]

You're going to have to wait until WG gets around to line splits.  Then Mogami will likely get her 155s unnerfed; at least in CL format, if not in both CL and CA format.

[Sakuzhi]

 

I'd agree with pre-nerf Mogami being borderline OP, but I don't see how that applies to the current Mogami.

 

Because it is the second best T8 Line Cruiser in the game. And the first best is OP.

[1nv4d3rZ1m]

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/87882-155-mogami-is-currently-excellent/#topmost

[IronWolfV]

It's already borderline OP.

 

Stop whining, use the 203s or get good.

What if you're stuck with 155s due to stock?

Use the 203s. They are and have always been quite good.

Read above.

[Sakuzhi]

What if you're stuck with 155s due to stock?

Read above.

 

And we should care about how bad ships are stock.....why?

 

Stock ships suck, fact.

[10T0nHammer]

I still use the 155s, average more damage than the NO. Whats the problem again?

 

Now it REQUIRES planning instead of being an OP Kutuzov (hehe). You have to think ahead and plan engagements in advance. Her slow rotation has actually benefited my battleship play greatly.

[goldeagle1123]

I never really understood peoples argument against un-nerfing the turret rotation, claiming it would be "too OP". The main reason the 155s were nerfed was because of their ability to use BFT/AFT, giving them outrageously good range and DPM. Their ability to turn was never the problem.

[Macabe]

What if you're stuck with 155s due to stock?

Read above.

 

Then there's some grinsing to do.

[AspiringCodger]

What if you're stuck with 155s due to stock?

Read above.

 

Then stop complaining until you've upgraded.  All ships suck stock.

[IronWolfV]

 

Then stop complaining until you've upgraded.  All ships suck stock.

 

Yes there are sucky stock ships but good god, light caliber guns that have the turret traverse of the warspite? Really?

[goldeagle1123]

I still use the 155s, average more damage than the NO. Whats the problem again?

 

Now it REQUIRES planning instead of being an OP Kutuzov (hehe). You have to think ahead and plan engagements in advance. Her slow rotation has actually benefited my battleship play greatly.

 

The "I do well in it therefore it is good" argument has been debunked many times. I did well in with 155s personally, but honestly it felt like a handicapped ship. Zero ability to turn and fire whatsoever, I didn't even feel like I was truly playing the Japanese tier 8 cruiser until I started using the 203s.

[BrushWolf]

They want you to use the 8" guns. I have said this before but the Mogami is a ship that belongs in to separate tiers. The Scharnhorst if they allow it to have the planned 15" guns is another.

[YamatoA150]

I never really understood peoples argument against un-nerfing the turret rotation, claiming it would be "too OP". The main reason the 155s were nerfed was because of their ability to use BFT/AFT, giving them outrageously good range and DPM. Their ability to turn was never the problem.

 

Because the 155s also had a buffed RoF even without AFT, which is the main issue.

 

If they gave it the historical traverse but also the historical RoF limitation, the 155s would be perfectly fine.

 

Or just undo the nerfs but limit the 155s to the CL hull only.  It'll be the IJN rival for a future Cleveland anyway.

[10T0nHammer]

 

Yes there are sucky stock ships but good god, light caliber guns that have the turret traverse of the warspite? Really?

 

Simple:

Step 1: Get EM

Step 2: Get Main Bat Mod 2

Step 3: Spray HE at anything that moves with choice AP shots

Step 4:??????

Step 5: Profit! Literally!

[AspiringCodger]

 

Yes there are sucky stock ships but good god, light caliber guns that have the turret traverse of the warspite? Really?

 

I may have been numbed to that grinding up the Russian DD line 

[10T0nHammer]

 

The "I do well in it therefore it is good" argument has been debunked many times. I did well in with 155s personally, but honestly it felt like a handicapped ship. Zero ability to turn and fire whatsoever, I didn't even feel like I was truly playing the Japanese tier 8 cruiser until I started using the 203s.

 

No its "She does better statistically than every nonpremium ship stock" argument.

[IronWolfV]

 

I may have been numbed to that grinding up the Russian DD line 

 

I have grinded up to the Ognevi.  Only one with turret traverse that bad is the Gremlin.

[AspiringCodger]

 

No its "She does better statistically than every nonpremium ship stock" argument.

 

Is that still the case if you look exclusively at post nerf stats though?  I love my Mogami, but that wasn't the case before upgrading her guns.  Even with Demolition Experts and flags, I'd usually only do around 30k damage.  When you land 200+ shells and do the damage of a low tier destroyer, it's not exactly a fun time.

[Sakuzhi]

 

I have grinded up to the Ognevi.  Only one with turret traverse that bad is the Gremlin.

 

It isn't Warspite or Yamato, sshhh now.

[goldeagle1123]

 

Simple:

Step 1: Get EM

Step 2: Get Main Bat Mod 2

Step 3: Spray HE at anything that moves with choice AP shots

Step 4:??????

Step 5: Profit! Literally!

 

The turret traverse even with those is still pretty awful.