I rarely see cruisers top scoreboards at the end of the battle

[Grand_Commander_LuXun]

It is usually a DD or BB, sometimes a CV. Cruisers are rarely first place. Also, what would you consider to be a good placement on the team at the end of a match? 

[Macabe]

I see them quite oftenl although it's usually the fire-spammers that get there.

[Terrible_Turtle]

If true, it's probably for one primary reason.

 

Both can easily survive to the end of the match. DDs use their stealth. BBs use their health. Cruisers, while being more versatile, unfortunately fall awkwardly in the middle. 

[Goose21891]

Top 3-5 is honestly good enough most of the time

[pewpewpew42]

We see them often enough down here in tier 3-5.

 

[ThunderGodGarfield]

Also rarely seen by me.  I cannot fathom how to get over 100k dmg in a cruiser, it seems like it would require the perfect storm of people just ignoring you for other targets.  I can hit 90k dmg in about everything except US cruiser - they just die regardless of how you play angles.  You would think some advantage might be present in their gameplay, but I have yet to see it.

Even in bad games, with a CV or BB ill hit +30k dmg, but a bad game in a CV is like 9k...ur like oh cool, I am about to get in range of an enemy 6 minutes into a match....time to party - and then I feel like Archer shooting off rounds in a closed room.  Mump....mump......mump

[Legendary_Typo]

I can't speak for high tiers as I've mostly been playing my Marblehead/Murmansk, but I'm often either first or in the top three if I do pretty well, I don't think I've been below that if I've done at least 40k damage, and being a light cruiser, most of that's against DDs, so that helps. Of course, the longer you live, the easier it is.

[RedSeaBear]

We must not play in the same matches lol. 

Because I can regularly get my tier 5 through 7 cruisers in the top 4 on the team. 

Heck even on bad games I can place my floating citadels near first place. 

[Soshi_Sone]

It is usually a DD or BB, sometimes a CV. Cruisers are rarely first place. Also, what would you consider to be a good placement on the team at the end of a match? 

 

In general, I feel good if I am in the top half of the team regardless of platform.  If I am at a carry tier (i.e., the captain of a high tier ship in the MM range), I expect to be in the top 5.  Anything else, and I feel I didn't do my job regardless of win or lose.

 

Exceptions apply depending on map, win type, and MM in general.  For example, the situation might require me to hang back and provide AA escort, operate in a non-engage spotter mode, or scout the flanks.  These don't generate many points.  In these cases, it doesn't matter where I end up on the match board.  It only matters if I did my job effectively or not.

 

 

[Sakuzhi]

If true, it's probably for one primary reason.

 

Both can easily survive to the end of the match. DDs use their stealth. BBs use their health. Cruisers, while being more versatile, unfortunately fall awkwardly in the middle. 

 

Don't forget DDs also get an idiotic amount of "Score" (xp) for capping points.

[Edgecase]

I also anecdotally see very few cruisers in the top spots.

 

I suppose it does make sense, though. DDs get points off damage, kills, and caps. BBs strike gold on damage quite easily, and also tend to live relatively long. CAs not named Zao have mediocre damage and survivability, can't get on points easily, and earn nothing for their "special" actions like radar or defensive fire.

[Cruiser_Chicago]

It is usually a DD or BB, sometimes a CV. Cruisers are rarely first place. Also, what would you consider to be a good placement on the team at the end of a match? 

 

You must not play with good cruiser players then.

 

I usually see carriers in the middle of scoreboard in terms of EXP unless the CV player was really good. Top 5 on the scoreboard would be good placement on the scoreboard IMO.

[ThunderGodGarfield]

You should earn support points for drawing fire from BB's in a cruiser or something.  Like if you are hit by a BB that also has LOS on another enemy BB, and it chooses you (as it should in most cases), you get dauntless fleet defender or whatever.

just another 2 cents

[crzyhawk]

I'm disappointed when I'm not in the top five on my team and I am pretty regularly #1. It took me a long time to get to the point where I expect that result from myself. A lot of it depends on your targets. You get more base exp hitting destroyers than battleships for instance. Being around caps and shooting at DDs trying to cap gets you base defense ribbons. those things add up.

[AWarmToiletSeat]

Cruisers are extremely squishy and as others have pointed out unlike DD/BBs they don't really have much to fall back on in terms of stealth/health/armor , a lot of CA/CL captains have trouble staying alive long enough to earn enough xp to make it to the top, all that aside i don't have trouble making it to the top in cruisers, they're my preferred class.

[Sakuzhi]

I'm disappointed when I'm not in the top five on my team and I am pretty regularly #1. It took me a long time to get to the point where I expect that result from myself. A lot of it depends on your targets. You get more base exp hitting destroyers than battleships for instance. Being around caps and shooting at DDs trying to cap gets you base defense ribbons. those things add up.

 

I don't mind it if I won, because it means I didn't need to Carry a sack of potatoes to victory.

 

If I somehow (and this is beyond rare) not get in the top 3 on a loss, it means either I got [edited] by something I couldn't counter (say South carolina getting yolo rushed by a Wickes because all of the cruisers ran off randomly and no, you can't keep up in a 18 knot Battleship). 

 

Or CVed. The first is sometimes on me, other times the number of potatoes that refuse to lisen is so great that it lead to a quick death of my ship.

 

Or CVed, because sometimes, life will just crapon you. 

[crzyhawk]

 

I don't mind it if I won, because it means I didn't need to Carry a sack of potatoes to victory.

 

If I somehow (and this is beyond rare) not get in the top 3 on a loss, it means either I got [edited] by something I couldn't counter (say South carolina getting yolo rushed by a Wickes because all of the cruisers ran off randomly and no, you can't keep up in a 18 knot Battleship). 

 

Or CVed. The first is sometimes on me, other times the number of potatoes that refuse to lisen is so great that it lead to a quick death of my ship.

 

Or CVed, because sometimes, life will just crapon you. 

Exactly.  A lot of it comes from experience.  You have to ID priority targets and deal with them.  You have to ID threats and react to them.  playing a cruiser is easy.  Playing it well and playing it right are two much different things.  You have to be aggressive, but not suicidal.  It's a fine line to walk.

[Madwolf05]

On good teams it's hard to beat BBs and DDs at higher tiers for a cruiser.

 

DDs get monster rewards for Capping, and because fights to often occur at a distance, but within spotting range of a cap, it is often suicide for a cruiser to jump on a CAP until victory is already in hand.

 

Cruisers also have to push up to get shots off, leaving them vulnerable to return BB fire. They also lack the torpedo defenses and HP to deal with torpedo soup.

 

So often times cruisers die too soon to top the charts, or they just don't because the BBs and DDs are far more capable of doing it.

[BossmanSlim]

For a cruiser to top the charts, they have to play conservative and smart.  They can't out slug a BB and they can't out stealth a DD.   Cruisers have to know when to disengage and when to stick it in and keep pounding the enemy.  Cruisers also need to assist with base captures and defenses.  The easiest way to get top spot is to shoot DDs.  Exp is based on % of health removed, not pure damage, so killing 3 DDs and doing 45K damage is much more exp than doing 65K to one BB.

 

 

[Sakuzhi]

 For a cruiser to top the charts, they have to play conservative and smart.

 

Most important skill for a Cruiser to have?

 

Knowing when "Too close" is Too close to a Battleship.

 

That and thy need to master thine art of D-O-D-G-E.

[Spyde]

I have been getting there in T8-9 Cruisers.

 

 

Its all about not getting yourself in a bad position.. and never make yourself a good target... BB players usually shoot a cruiser.. when the Cruiser makes themselves a good target.

[Grand_Commander_LuXun]

Well for me in my cruisers I can easily get into the Top 4 in a good battle. However, more often than not I fall just short of 1st, 2nd or 3rd place due to a BB or DD. But yeah as long as I'm in the top half I'm content. Even in a loss I try to be in the Top 4, and I've been getting that more often. How close is too close to a BB?

 

I;'d say usually I perform decently unless my team is 100% potato, I make mistakes or I get targeted early on, or if there are many near-unicum / way above average players on my team. In terms of personal skill I'd say above to slightly above.

[awiggin]

I only play mid tiers 5-7, I don't seem to have much problem getting top score a reasonable amount of the time, and I'm only average. I think it's more the number of cruisers being played these days, compared to other classes. Since the great BFT/EM nerf, cruisers are not a favorite anymore.

[Sakuzhi]

 Since the great BFT/EM nerf, cruisers are not a favorite anymore. 

 It only effected sub T7 cruisers anyway, hardly the end of the world.

 

[10T0nHammer]

That and thy need to master thine art of D-O-D-G-E.

 

Simply can't dodge enough as a CA sometimes