German Carriers (OR ANY OTHER CARRIER) (OR AT LEAST SOME CARRIER BUFFS)

[Sir_Pengu1n]

WG doesn't care about CV's. At least, that is what it looks like to me. Only NERFS  have come to CV's. We CV players are customers too. But, there are some things that I need to point out.

 

1) ADD IN MORE CV TECH TREE BRANCHES!!! THERE ARE OTHER NATIONS WITH CV's TOO!

2) Keep IJN CV's as they are.

3) Give the USN CV's some love.

4) PLEASE don't gib us the norf hammer plz, we have had enuff ov it

5) Remove the Defensive AA fire ability. ( Because YOU are responsible for YOUR ship, and if you are afraid of some Air Raid coming to your ship, you better have some F****** fighters to protect your ship. )

6) Add in airstrips/ bases where a CV can take control of, land planes there, have them reloaded, etc etc. These will have NO AA protection, be vulnerable to bombs and shells, and will be fought over as a major turning point in the battle.

7) Add in a Kamikaze feature for IJN fighters. Damage = about the same as a bombers damage. Same for fires?

 

That pretty much sums it up. If you have anything to add, please let me know. And WG, if you happen to read this, PLEASE STOP THE CV HATE!!!

[Macabe]

Kamikazes weren't carrier-based. Just sayin. 

 

[Sir_Pengu1n]

Okay. Just looked up some stuff, and found that there weren't much other carriers...

 

So that is my mistake...

[Sir_Pengu1n]

Kamikazes weren't carrier-based. Just sayin. 

 

You know what I mean.

[Battleship_60]

There's no bacon choice......But I do want the RN CVs....

[Sir_Pengu1n]

There's no bacon choice......But I do want the RN CVs....

 

There appears to be 1 Russian CV, the Admiral Kuznetsov. The rest are Cruisers with floatplanes, or were sold off to China, scrapped, and then made into a hotel.

[Sir_Pengu1n]

However, something does look promising. There seems to be 40 decommissioned aircraft carriers in the Royal Navy.

 

This is quite the potential for WG.

[Battleship_60]

 

There appears to be 1 Russian CV, the Admiral Kuznetsov. The rest are Cruisers with floatplanes, or were sold off to China, scrapped, and then made into a hotel.

I mean Royal Navy.....

[Sir_Pengu1n]

I mean Royal Navy.....

 

oops...

Russia and Royal navy... heheh... they sound like the same thing...

 

[Sir_Pengu1n]

And also, MAKE THE D*** FIGHTERS GO BACK TO THE SHIP WHEN THEY RUN OUT OF AMMO, INSTEAD OF FLYING IN THESE LAME LITTLE CIRCLES AND GETTING DESTROYED!  I HATE IT! At least, the attacking fighters will still engage, but the fighters out of ammo will return to the CV.

 

[saru_richard]

second to last question should really have a neutral option 

[Personator]

WG already said no to Kamikazes due to ethical reasons. Please do not bring that topic in here.

[Aduial]

WG already said no to Kamikazes due to ethical reasons. Please do not bring that topic in here.

 

So it's ethical to blow up ships with thousands of people on them, but it's taboo for one plane to go down with 1 or 2 people? Besides, IJN fighters are mostly useless anyways, so that would at least give them something useful to do....

[Aduial]

Anyways, what i think they should do is remove the AS loadouts from all ships and balance the USN CVs accordingly. AS is no fun for the person on the other end (because he's doing no damage and all his planes are being shot down) and it's no fun for you either, because you don't do any damage either and you just point and click. I think the decision to add AS carriers was one of the worst choices ever made for this game. 

[WanderingGhost]

WG doesn't care about CV's. At least, that is what it looks like to me. Only NERFS  have come to CV's. We CV players are customers too. But, there are some things that I need to point out.

 

1) ADD IN MORE CV TECH TREE BRANCHES!!! THERE ARE OTHER NATIONS WITH CV's TOO!

2) Keep IJN CV's as they are.

3) Give the USN CV's some love.

4) PLEASE don't gib us the norf hammer plz, we have had enuff ov it

5) Remove the Defensive AA fire ability. ( Because YOU are responsible for YOUR ship, and if you are afraid of some Air Raid coming to your ship, you better have some F****** fighters to protect your ship. )

6) Add in airstrips/ bases where a CV can take control of, land planes there, have them reloaded, etc etc. These will have NO AA protection, be vulnerable to bombs and shells, and will be fought over as a major turning point in the battle.

7) Add in a Kamikaze feature for IJN fighters. Damage = about the same as a bombers damage. Same for fires?

 

That pretty much sums it up. If you have anything to add, please let me know. And WG, if you happen to read this, PLEASE STOP THE CV HATE!!!

 

Precursor - the aircraft changes were a buff, that canceled out by nerfs, USN got 1000 pound bombs, and 5.9 tier 6, 7, and 8 will only have +1 MM, so, obviously, they do care somewhat, just haven't put it on the priority list far enough.

 

1. Unless they are adding in UK CV's as part of the launch of that tech tree this year, minimum wait is till sometime next year. I'd almost bet money UK CV's are next when we get more, they have far more material that I know of, Germany you can stretch a tree, requires creativity though to fill out the last 2 (my proposal, 9 is considered changes to GZ and 10 is creating the second set of Plan Z carriers). I know writes ups have been done for Italy and I think France. I can't find anything on carriers for Russia, doesn't mean Wargaming won't find anything while raiding archives.

 

2. No, IJN fighters need to be balanced out to be competitive so USN does not have full air dominance. At which time they either need the extra fighter squadron reassigned as TB/DB or just removed. Possibly a little more durability to bombers.

 

3. All they really need is better options  beyond AS or all out attack. Give us decent intermediaries and were good.

 

4. Yeah, CV's have been nerfed and need some buffs. But there are two more nerfs/reworks needed. The removal/alteration of strafing, which is broken as hell, and manual drops, at least TB ones, as well. Both of these in particular are "press alt to delete enemy" and it's [edited]. Requiring "skill" does not make it any less broken than any exploit in other games that require skill and patience to use. And this comes from a CV user, I simply try to avoid using it because I feel it's a broken mechanic. I've evaporate BB's with 6 torps to the side using it and it's idiotic that I can do that.

 

5. It's only on high tiers, and this is partially because of module options for USN where in order to deal damage they have to for go fighters, manual drops being used to delete the carrier at match start, etc. It has a place, and is fine, most CV's have 1 charge, maybe 2. 

 

6. just straight up no. CV's just need to be rebalanced and I'm not sure it's even bloody feasible for them to do it.

 

7. No. Wargaming has said it will NEVER be a feature, a dozen times, for multiple reasons. one of which, as already stated, is that THEY WERE LAND BASED.

[TabbyHopkins]

 Do you want the Kamikaze feature for IJN CV Fighters?

 

*Nosebleeds*

*flips desk*

OH COME ON, use the search on that one. Carrier launched Kamikaze planes never existed!

[hipcanuck]

 

. Carrier launched Kamikaze planes never existed!

 

Since when has that stopped WG from putting something in the game. Half the Russian ships didnt exist except on paper, some of the German ships didnt exists.

 

At the very least it should be implemented as a chance occurrence. All aircraft shot down at close range should have a chance of hitting a ship and causing damage and fire, IJN planes should have a higher % chance.

 

[poeticmotion]

 

WG doesn't care about CV's. At least, that is what it looks like to me. Only NERFS  have come to CV's. We CV players are customers too. But, there are some things that I need to point out 

1) ADD IN MORE CV TECH TREE BRANCHES!!! THERE ARE OTHER NATIONS WITH CV's TOO!

 

 

 

Your whole post is easily dismissed due to hyperbole, inaccuracy, and stupidity. Others have addressed other points (such as Kamikazes) but let me address the CV tech tree thing. 

This is a new game. Tech tree branches are slowly being added. But there are fewer CVs from fewer nations than the other three classes, and they're still trying to get the CV gameplay right, so of course it's harder. 

There are two CV lines. USN and IJN. But there's only two BB lines until German comes out next month, and only three DD lines. Yes, there's four cruiser lines but that's because cruisers are easy to balance and to find material for in the naval history of various nations. Patience. It's not CV hate, it's the fact that the only other nation that can field a mostly-non-paper complete tree is Royal Navy and WG's stated they've had trouble finding source material. Every other CV line will be at least half paper and that's going to take even more time than USN/IJN/RN. 

[LubzinNJ]

I feel like the guy running the Billy Madison academic decathlon after reading that starting post.

[Estimated_Prophet]

4. Yeah, CV's have been nerfed and need some buffs. But there are two more nerfs/reworks needed. The removal/alteration of strafing, which is broken as hell, and manual drops, at least TB ones, as well. Both of these in particular are "press alt to delete enemy" and it's [edited]. Requiring "skill" does not make it any less broken than any exploit in other games that require skill and patience to use. And this comes from a CV user, I simply try to avoid using it because I feel it's a broken mechanic. I've evaporate BB's with 6 torps to the side using it and it's idiotic that I can do that.

 

I've had reasons for Strafe explained to me and they make some small amount of sense, but I consider an entire air group evaporating under fire from just ONE enemy fighter just as stupid as the BB delete you speak of .

 

I would agree to removal of manual torp drop ONLY if the auto drop range was decreased. It's so far out now it only threatens Jingles-esque 'Stoopid' BB drivers.'

[GuntherPrein]

ROFL get rid of manual drops ROFL your crazy bro they should have no auto drops that's what they should do otherwise it is completely point and click and strafe is needed use it wisely don't put yourself in those spots where your enemy can strafe 20 planes at once that is completely your own fault and poor CV play. I have heard so many tales of torp squads auto deleting ships and just don't see it , it happens just as much as a BB causing a detonation even hitting BB with 7 torps  dosent auto delete it lol

 

[k75fish]

I want CV's removed from the game

[Numbah18]

I want CV's removed from the game

 

That's nice dear.

 

I can't agree with getting rid of manual drop it's the only thing that I fell like I have any control over or any say in. Everything else is just point and click. I miss the old days where I could use hammer and anvil attacks though. Those good old days when I actually had to think about how I'm going to attack someone 

 

[Palladia]

 

I've had reasons for Strafe explained to me and they make some small amount of sense, but I consider an entire air group evaporating under fire from just ONE enemy fighter just as stupid as the BB delete you speak of .

 

I would agree to removal of manual torp drop ONLY if the auto drop range was decreased. It's so far out now it only threatens Jingles-esque 'Stoopid' BB drivers.'

 

Auto-drop range decreased and torpedo speed increased.  Not massively,  but those buggers are slow.  I didn't really notice until I was grinding up in my New York and I had time to go make a sandwich,  come back,  and THEN dodge out of the way.  I think all torpedos also need to use the IJN's convergence pattern in water,  it beats the stuffing out of the USN's stable pattern.

 

Regardless,  right now USN CV's need some help.  The 1000lb bombs help higher tiers but IJN CV's are still just far and away better.  If DB's are going to be USN's national flavor for dealing damage then they need to be competitive with IJN's torpedos and not just viable.

[MaxMcKay]

 

Precursor - the aircraft changes were a buff, that canceled out by nerfs, USN got 1000 pound bombs, and 5.9 tier 6, 7, and 8 will only have +1 MM, so, obviously, they do care somewhat, just haven't put it on the priority list far enough.

 

1. Unless they are adding in UK CV's as part of the launch of that tech tree this year, minimum wait is till sometime next year. I'd almost bet money UK CV's are next when we get more, they have far more material that I know of, Germany you can stretch a tree, requires creativity though to fill out the last 2 (my proposal, 9 is considered changes to GZ and 10 is creating the second set of Plan Z carriers). I know writes ups have been done for Italy and I think France. I can't find anything on carriers for Russia, doesn't mean Wargaming won't find anything while raiding archives.

 

2. No, IJN fighters need to be balanced out to be competitive so USN does not have full air dominance. At which time they either need the extra fighter squadron reassigned as TB/DB or just removed. Possibly a little more durability to bombers.

 

3. All they really need is better options  beyond AS or all out attack. Give us decent intermediaries and were good.

 

4. Yeah, CV's have been nerfed and need some buffs. But there are two more nerfs/reworks needed. The removal/alteration of strafing, which is broken as hell, and manual drops, at least TB ones, as well. Both of these in particular are "press alt to delete enemy" and it's [edited]. Requiring "skill" does not make it any less broken than any exploit in other games that require skill and patience to use. And this comes from a CV user, I simply try to avoid using it because I feel it's a broken mechanic. I've evaporate BB's with 6 torps to the side using it and it's idiotic that I can do that.

 

5. It's only on high tiers, and this is partially because of module options for USN where in order to deal damage they have to for go fighters, manual drops being used to delete the carrier at match start, etc. It has a place, and is fine, most CV's have 1 charge, maybe 2. 

 

6. just straight up no. CV's just need to be rebalanced and I'm not sure it's even bloody feasible for them to do it.

 

7. No. Wargaming has said it will NEVER be a feature, a dozen times, for multiple reasons. one of which, as already stated, is that THEY WERE LAND BASED.

 

Actually I'll agree about manual drop being removed, just as soon as they remove the aim assist feature of the stop watch for other ships.

 

As for the rest, CV's need more love honestly and the ability to select their plane load out for squadrons.  Rebalancing is a personal issue as to what would be better and what would be worse.  As it is now CV's are becoming more and more a glass cannon with VERY limited ammo.  If anything the CV needs to be strengthened and the planes toughened up to deal with the buffs they've given other ships in dealing with them.

 

The changes I've seen since I started playing to CV's is monumental, and imho gone in the wrong direction.