Them 's fightin' words

[Quaffer]

 

Posters who make demands in their posts may think they are demonstrating the strength of their convictions. e.g.

 

We demand ...

WG must ...

Eliminate it NOW...

Banish ...

... or else ...

 

To me it just looks like they don't know how to make their case.  Most people respond to belligerent demands by getting their hackles up.  The knee jerk response is to reject the argument out of course because "No one tells me what I can have/do...".

On the flip side, when someone opens a dialog, people are more likely to read the argument without rejecting it out of hand. They may disagree but at least they will finish reading the post. As an example I'll grind one of my favorite axes that no one seems to care about but yours truly:

I would like WarGaming to restore the ability of battleships and cruisers to set way points for their scout planes.  I found it very helpful in Alpha and it gave me something to do while waiting for my guns to reload when I was using a battleship.  The early identification of the enemy movements helped form strategies... I welcome your thoughts on this idea.

See, you may think the idea is idiotic, but I have put nothing there to offend and I opened it up to discussion. Posters may reply that they do not want the hassle of setting way points on the map, because they don't want to open the strategic map, or because they fear they will lose the 'let's peek over the island mode', but they will read the post and think about it without rejecting it out of hand, because my language did not imply that I should be in control of the decision making process, or folks that disagreed had better watch out!

 

If you want to get people to come around to your point of view, a good start is not to make them angry.

 

 

Now I shall drop the other foot. Here are a few comments on style.

 

If you want people to read your post:

 

Capitalize the first words in a sentence, proper nouns, and acronyms. Leave the rest lower case.

Use punctuation and good grammar.

Don't use texting short cuts.

Use spell check.

If you mess something up, edit it.

 

Why?  There's one reason for all these five points, and it has nothing to do with my being a frustrated English teacher.  Do it because it makes it easier to read.  It may take more work to type but its worth it.  If something is hard to read it won't get read. Nothing forces a reader to read a post. The easier it is to read, the better your chances are of making your point.

 

If you start a new thread put a little thought into the title.  If you want to change it you can edit it with the "Use Full Editor" button. The thread title should tell the reader something of what's inside.  False advertising makes people grumpy.

 

Well I think I've spent enough of my time and your goodwill on my soap box.

 

In closing; I thank you for your kind attention.

 

[ixiVanr]

+1

 

The more you threaten, the less you will be taken seriously.

 

Learn to type like this, n0t lyk d1s pLz, and definitely not like [edited]this!!!!!!! :v

[TTK_Aegis]

+1

 

The more you threaten, the less you will be taken seriously.

 

Learn to type like this, n0t lyk d1s pLz, and definitely not like [edited]this!!!!!!! :v

 

See you say that, but how long without Inazuma in the game until you snap? xD

[killsbane67]

And the developers never read any of it. Everything is filtered threw the NA server staff. So rant away, because your just pissin into the wind. Lol

[SeanPwnery]

You're asking a majority of children with entitlement issues to be "thoughtful" - that's a fruitless endeavor.

[ixiVanr]

 

See you say that, but how long without Inazuma in the game until you snap? xD

 

But I'm asking nicely... I said "please"... ;c

 

killsbane67, on 15 July 2016 - 05:48 PM, said:

And the developers never read any of it. Everything is filtered threw the NA server staff. So rant away, because your just pissin into the wind. Lol

 

Sometimes they do... in WoT. I've seen a couple of times where devs or mods are silently observing several threads... judging your existence...

 

Kidding aside, maybe I'm just not attentive enough because I haven't seen devs logged on the same time as I, or they lurk more on the Suggestions forums where it's tighter.

[kerensky914]

If you mess something up edit it.

Need a comma after 'up', my friend. ;)

oh, and +1

[Quaffer]

Thank you.

[BrushWolf]

 

But I'm asking nicely... I said "please"... ;c

 

 

Sometimes they do... in WoT. I've seen a couple of times where devs or mods are silently observing several threads... judging your existence...

 

Kidding aside, maybe I'm just not attentive enough because I haven't seen devs logged on the same time as I, or they lurk more on the Suggestions forums where it's tighter.

 

This, the NA staff is active and ArdRaeiss regularly posts here too.

[_Ezekiel_]

Never change Quaffer

+1

[yUPPatriots]

If you want people to read your post:

 

Capitalize the first words in a sentence, proper nouns, and acronyms. Leave the rest lower case.
Use punctuation and good grammar.
Don't use texting short cuts.
Use spell check.
If you mess something up, edit it.

 

 

 

i dmnd, dis be stickeeed!

[SandraSmiles]

The biggest threat being no threat, but action...

[killsbane67]

The NA staff are not the developers. They just run the NA server, and provide support for us NA residents.

 

Now on the Russian that's a different situation.

[RoundsDownRange]

Quaffer,

The way you did your post is an excellent example of how all of us should post.  You have flare, style and grace.  The way you express yourself, you could tell another player to go to H e l l (didn’t want them to delete the word) and make them enjoy the trip.

 

As for setting way points for spotter aircraft, I too wish they would bring it back.

Thank you for sharing and +1.

[DerKrampus]

I like this, actually.  Both the sentiment of the post, and the suggestion you provided.  The foot-stamping "I'm never playing again!" sort of threads we see come around so often that my initial response is usually "well, bye..."

[QJW]

Yes I agree very much so. You want to be taken seriously, you got to write seriously. I also want my scout plane ability, its been too damn long.

 

 

[Skpstr]

Lol Quaffer, I always noticed you had a very distinct way of speaking.

 

Knowing you're an English teacher makes you seem less eccentric!

[Quaffer]

Ho ho. I am not an English teacher and in the past that has frustrated me.  What I am is a mechanical engineer with a great deal of affection for the written word and a love of poetry. Trust me, you may find that a trifle unusual in my trade. My wife finds my poetry and sense of humor to be annoying, so it is unlikely that I shall change.

 

[Mizzerys_Fate]

Ur ttly wrng........

PPL DON'T HAVE TIME TO RED NOWDAYZ.

 

If I hadn't been bored, I would have missed the way point thing...please that would be great.

Along with buoyancy bar.

Now let's see if we can direct our catapult fighter to attack a group instead of circling uselessly.

[Aldo_Raine__]

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~Nyx

[Mizzerys_Fate]

Ho ho. I am not an English teacher and in the past that has frustrated me.  What I am is a mechanical engineer with a great deal of affection for the written word and a love of poetry. Trust me, you may find that a trifle unusual in my trade. My wife finds my poetry and sense of humor to be annoying, so it is unlikely that I shall change.

 

 

Annoy away.

[RoundsDownRange]

Ho ho. I am not an English teacher and in the past that has frustrated me.  What I am is a mechanical engineer with a great deal of affection for the written word and a love of poetry. Trust me, you may find that a trifle unusual in my trade. My wife finds my poetry and sense of humor to be annoying, so it is unlikely that I shall change.

 

 

But you said; "Why?  There's one reason for all these five points, and it has nothing to do with my being a frustrated English teacher.  Do it because it makes it easier to read.  It may take more work to type but its worth it.  If something is hard to read it won't get read. Nothing forces a reader to read a post. The easier it is to read, the better your chances are of making your point."  Did you lie to us? 

[Samurai_Mouse]

I need a shrink after this.. I totally had no issues reading the leet speak above ( sigh )..

[Quaffer]

Mayhap I was unclear. I am frustrated, because I am not teaching English.

 

It was not my intention to mislead; to entertain perhaps, to educate, certainly.

[RoundsDownRange]

Mayhap I was unclear. I am frustrated, because I am not teaching English.

 

It was not my intention to mislead; to entertain perhaps, to educate, certainly.

 

A-ha... Quaffer tried to pull wool over our eyes...Pun intended.  Still a good post and information.