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Did you know CV doesn't mean carrier vessel?

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Despite popular beleive CV, at least originaly, did not mean 'carrier vessel'. 

 

On 17 July 1920, the Secretary of the Navy prescribed a standard nomenclature for types and classes of NAVAL VESSELs, including aircraft, in which lighter-than air craft were identified by the type "Z" and heavier-than air craft by the letter "V". The reference also speculates that: "The use of the "V" designation has been a question since the 1920s. However, no conclusive evidence has been found to identify why the letter "V" was chosen. It is generally believed the "V" was in reference to the French word volplane. As a verb, the word means to glide or soar. As a noun, it described an aeronautical device sustained in the air by lifting devices (wings), as opposed to the bag of gas that the airships (denoted by "Z") used. The same case may be regarding the use of "Z". It is generally believed the "Z" was used in deference to Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin. However, documentation has not been located to verify this assumption."

 

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CV   Carrier  Aviation, I far as I know when the Langley was decided as a success this was chosen. Also it to do with Naval Pilots being referred to as Aviators.

as in VMF 214  Aviation Marine Fighter Squadron, I am sure there is a better explanation on the web , I am going by memory.

CA was used it was decided that the second letter V would replace it

 

DE        Destroyer Escort

DMS     Destroyer Mine Sweeper

and so-on


 

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This is actually the first time I've seen or heard anyone refer to CV as " carrier vessel.". Could just be because I've been surrounded by all things military since I was a sperm.

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Another fun fact is that Dive Bombers weren't abbreviated as DBs and Torpedo Bombers weren't TBs, but rather VB and VTs respectively.

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I read somewhere that the C in CV was actually cruiser, not carrier. 

 

That is another good point, I've seen that as well. 

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I was told CV was for "Cruiser Volplane" because it was originally believed that the class would hold the role of cruisers. I find that more believable than "Carrier aViation," since that doesn't explain designations like CC for battlecruiser.

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My grandfather (an USN naval aviator) taught me that the origin was "Carrier, Aviation", "V" being used instead of "A" because "CA" was already the designation for "Cruiser, Armored."  I'll admit I've never seen an official source verifying this tho.

 

 

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I never really thought too much about it, they're simply designations on paper. I know in the context of US Navy Aviation, 'V', at least when part of a plane squadron designation, refers to 'heaVier than air', referring to any type of plane as opposed to a floating balloon.

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meh CVs I"m nor worried about....

 

 

now BFFO's?( big fat flying objects) YES those I'm a bit nervous about!:hiding:

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I'm actually kinda horrified that someone actually thought CV meant 'carrier vessel'...

Easiest way to remember it is V is the Navy's designation for fixed wing aviation, both referring to squadrons and a/c themselves. I have heard rumors that BuShips settled for the 'v' in aviation--the second letter, as CA was already assigned to heavy cruisers-to designate the subset if ship classificaction. By that, technically CV would  appear to be fixed wing aviation cruiser.

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I'm actually kinda horrified that someone actually thought CV meant 'carrier vessel'...

Easiest way to remember it is V is the Navy's designation for fixed wing aviation, both referring to squadrons and a/c themselves. I have heard rumors that BuShips settled for the 'v' in aviation--the second letter, as CA was already assigned to heavy cruisers-to designate the subset if ship classificaction. By that, technically CV would  appear to be fixed wing aviation cruiser.

 

V was the designation for heavier-than-air craft. 

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A quick link to the page some of the info in the OP maybe of come form the site has a lot more info that's worth the read as is a bit much to post. Into USN ship Designations and the history

http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/index_ships_list.php

This one as info on other nations naming etc as well as USN

http://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/us-navy-ship-classifications.asp

 

Hope is helps.

 

 

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