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USS John Paul Jones (DD-932)

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jojokla23    139

Okay Destroyers Armed with a littlegun with Devastating torpedoes

Would they add JPJ the Old One WW2

 

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cap3127    1

Forget the JPJ, take a look at the USS Samuel L Johnson, or the USS Johnston.  The Destroyer that Fought like a Battleship and the bravest tin can ever, respectively.

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Windhover118    1,150

View Postcap3127, on 04 October 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

Forget the JPJ, take a look at the USS Samuel L Johnson, or the USS Johnston.  The Destroyer that Fought like a Battleship and the bravest tin can ever, respectively.

I believe you are refering to the Destroyer Escort Samual B. Roberts. It went down in navy folklore as the DE that fought like a battleship.

As for the John Paul Jones, I dont think we will be seeing her. she was a Forrest Sherman class DD and those werent built until 1953. Edited by Windhover118

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Appollosnos    296

View PostWindhover118, on 04 October 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

I believe you are refering to the Destroyer Escort Samual B. Roberts. It went down in navy folklore as the DE that fought like a battleship.

As for the John Paul Jones, I dont think we will be seeing her. she was a Forrest Sherman class DD and those werent built until 1953.

Well im not sure for WoWs but if it was world of tanks it would work due to being before 1960 there is a good chance for it based on that logic

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jojokla23    139

Do You Think It would be Added? :Smile_amazed::Smile_honoring:

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catcalloway    2

View PostWindhover118, on 04 October 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

I believe you are refering to the Destroyer Escort Samual B. Roberts. It went down in navy folklore as the DE that fought like a battleship.

As for the John Paul Jones, I dont think we will be seeing her. she was a Forrest Sherman class DD and those werent built until 1953.

USS Johnston DD-557 Fought right next to Samuel B. Roberts @ the Battle of Samar. She too was pummeled by everything from AA to 14 Inch shells by the Japanese Fleet. http://en.wikipedia....ohnston_(DD-557)

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Windhover118    1,150

View Postcatcalloway, on 05 October 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

USS Johnston DD-557 Fought right next to Samuel B. Roberts @ the Battle of Samar. She too was pummeled by everything from AA to 14 Inch shells by the Japanese Fleet. http://en.wikipedia....ohnston_(DD-557)

I know. I wasnt trying to diminish the accomplishments of the Johnson and her crew. The Johnston was the first DD to make a Torpedo run on the Japanse fleet and caused varying degrees of damage to several Japanese ships. After getting hit by fire from one of Yamatos secondaries she pulled away from the fight. It was around this time that the other destroyers including the Samual B. Roberts made their torpedo runs. Johnston was the only DD in position to intercept Japanese Destroyers which were attempting to close with the American Escort Carriers. Johnston made the intercept but the Japanese surrounded her and hit her from al sides. She eventually had to be abandoned. It is said that one of the Captains of a Japanese Destroyer was seen saluting her as she went down.

The Samual B. Roberts earned the nickname the DE that fought like a battleship because she managed to contribute to the sinking of one Japanese Cruiser and then duked it out with the rest of the Japanese fleet for an hour before finally being hit by the Battleship Kongo. The Johnson and the Samual B. Roberts were the two most notable ships in the battle but all the men of Taffy 3 fought hard and they definately eared that Presidential Unit Citation and their place in history. Edited by Windhover118

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jausten    2

View PostWindhover118, on 05 October 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

The Johnston was the first DD to make a Torpedo run on the Japanse fleet and sank two Japanese Cruisers.

The Samual B. Roberts earned the nickname the DE that fought like a battleship because she managed to sink one Japanese Cruiser.

You shouldn't equate "hit" with "sink." Neither of these ships sank any Japanese cruisers. Two cruisers, the Chokai and the Suzuya, were severely damaged by fires resulting from secondary explosions of their Long Lance torpedoes--the Suzuya without ever taking a direct hit. The Chokai was scuttled, and the Suzuya sank after fires reached her magazines. The Chokai's nemesis was a 5-inch shell from the escort carrier Kalinin Bay; the Suzuya's initial damage came from near misses by US bombers.

The Roberts, along with the destroyer Heermann, inflicted heavy damage on the topsides of Chikuma, but that cruiser was actually sunk by torpedo bombers.

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Windhover118    1,150

View Postjausten, on 12 October 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

You shouldn't equate "hit" with "sink." Neither of these ships sank any Japanese cruisers. Two cruisers, the Chokai and the Suzuya, were severely damaged by fires resulting from secondary explosions of their Long Lance torpedoes--the Suzuya without ever taking a direct hit. The Chokai was scuttled, and the Suzuya sank after fires reached her magazines. The Chokai's nemesis was a 5-inch shell from the escort carrier Kalinin Bay; the Suzuya's initial damage came from near misses by US bombers.

The Roberts, along with the destroyer Heermann, inflicted heavy damage on the topsides of Chikuma, but that cruiser was actually sunk by torpedo bombers.

Thank you for correcting my error. I know the Heavy Cruiser Kumano had its bow blown off my Johnstons torpedoes and I guess I made the mistake of assuming such damage would be fatal. The Samual B. Roberts also blew off the bow of the Chokai and caused extensive damage to her superstructure. This along with the damage caused by the Kalinin Bay probably contributed to the decision to scuttle her. Even so it probably isnt accurate to say Roberts sank Chokai. I will edit my post accordingly.

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