944 Gavroche_ Members 2,304 posts 11,472 battles Report post #1 Posted June 2, 2016 Not seeing it... AP mechanics are so weird in this game, why did these shelsl not overpen? RNGesus? Under waterline hit? Magic? Who really knows...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
944 Gavroche_ Members 2,304 posts 11,472 battles Report post #2 Posted June 2, 2016 AP mechanics are so weird in this game, why did these shelsl not overpen? RNGesus? Under waterline hit? Magic? Who really knows...? It's totally player skill. 120% planned it all out. I aimed at the place and the stuff happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
148 INoCU Members 997 posts 2,054 battles Report post #3 Posted June 2, 2016 I heard if you hit where the citadel should, you'll get a pen instead of an over pen. or RNG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,548 [EPOXY] Tedster_ Wiki Editor, Members, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 5,899 posts 13,522 battles Report post #4 Posted June 2, 2016 more immune than this: AP mechanics are so weird in this game, why did these shelsl not overpen? RNGesus? Under waterline hit? Magic? Who really knows...? underwater hits and lengthwise hits give the shell time to detonate 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
163 [UDEAD] Paint_Huffer [UDEAD] Beta Testers 341 posts 4,798 battles Report post #5 Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) Just be glad that DD's don't have citadels like they used to during CBT. It was hilarious watching a full division of destroyers trying to charge a cruiser back then. Edit: Damn it Tedster, you beat me to it. Edited June 2, 2016 by How_Terrible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #6 Posted June 2, 2016 AP mechanics are so weird in this game, why did these shelsl not overpen? RNGesus? Under waterline hit? Magic? Who really knows...? Pls. They obviously didn't overpen because the shells went straight from bow to stern Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
644 [APOC] DasBootcamp Members 1,980 posts 7,171 battles Report post #7 Posted June 2, 2016 Could just be hitting them through the citadel spot on normal ships and getting the average pen damage. I know they were talking about upping over pen damage to 25-50% but this might be a change instead. I've gotten some decent waterline hits in the Texas too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,403 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,054 posts 41,689 battles Report post #8 Posted June 2, 2016 more immune than this: AP mechanics are so weird in this game, why did these shelsl not overpen? RNGesus? Under waterline hit? Magic? Who really knows...? underwater hits and lengthwise hits give the shell time to detonate Wait a sec... is this true? Should BB's (or maybe even CA's who have AP loaded) try to be aiming a smidge short (vertically speaking) to try to get shots to hit the water just short of the DD (assuming you're taking a side shot, not a bow or stern shot)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,939 [ASHIP] Grevester Members 5,454 posts 12,925 battles Report post #9 Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) ..... They didn't overpen because they went through his bow to his stern. Edited June 2, 2016 by Pulicat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,548 [EPOXY] Tedster_ Wiki Editor, Members, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 5,899 posts 13,522 battles Report post #10 Posted June 2, 2016 Wait a sec... is this true? Should BB's (or maybe even CA's who have AP loaded) try to be aiming a smidge short (vertically speaking) to try to get shots to hit the water just short of the DD (assuming you're taking a side shot, not a bow or stern shot)? yes, it is. shells that detonate in the engine room still do lots of damage. the 2nd screenshot OP posted is a perfect example. 12342/3 = 4114 per shell average, far more than the 1310 overpen damage a north carolina's AP round has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,644 [O7] 1nv4d3rZ1m Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 12,147 posts 9,111 battles Report post #11 Posted June 2, 2016 Wait a sec... is this true? Should BB's (or maybe even CA's who have AP loaded) try to be aiming a smidge short (vertically speaking) to try to get shots to hit the water just short of the DD (assuming you're taking a side shot, not a bow or stern shot)? The difference between an over pen and a normal pen is that an over pen does not detonate inside the ship hitbox. Since AP shells have time delay fuzes, if you fire the shell in a way that gives it more time to fuse like hitting the water first or lengthwise down the DD the shell has enough time to detonate before it leaves the hitbox of the ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 AquaSquirrel Members 1,228 posts 6,330 battles Report post #12 Posted June 2, 2016 I watched a Blys bounce AP rounds from a shiny new Indianapolis today. Was surreal. Still not convinced it wasn't a desync or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
323 [KOOKS] pyantoryng Alpha Tester 2,869 posts 4,864 battles Report post #13 Posted June 2, 2016 Just be glad that DD's don't have citadels like they used to during CBT. It was hilarious watching a full division of destroyers trying to charge a cruiser back then. Edit: Damn it Tedster, you beat me to it. That's one of the secret of how the likes of St. Louis and Cleveland reigned supreme...DD had citadels, and BB armors didn't work as intended... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
