59 [-N-] urk_the_red Members 246 posts 6,727 battles Report post #1 Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) I finally got a 15 point captain with my Tashkent. Been running what I think of as the shoot em' up config: BFT, AFT, DE, SA, LS, and SI with acquisition module. Is it worth switching to a stealth config by dropping DE and BFT and moving to concealment module? I'm reluctant to lose the extra firepower, but interested in improved torpedo ambushes. Do y'all like one, the other, or something in-between? Thoughts? Edited June 1, 2016 by urk_the_red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,812 [-KIA-] ValkyrWarframe Members 5,244 posts 16,381 battles Report post #2 Posted June 1, 2016 Russian destroyer guns are really good, so having a gun build works well even at high tier. My recommendation is to have Basic Firing Training (for faster firing), Situational Awareness (to know when you are detected), Last Stand (making a getaway), Superintendent (for more engine boosts and smoke screens), Demolition Expert (the guns have a scary good fire chance), and Advanced Firing Training (because the guns don't have bad velocities like the USN 5"/38 so you can snipe) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,322 [-K-] Special_Kay Beta Testers 5,660 posts 18,926 battles Report post #3 Posted June 1, 2016 See: What is the optimal 15-point Captain Spec? Udaloi: AFT with DE, or SE? Tier 10 DD captain skill How do you think, if picking survival expert on kiev instead of advanced fire training is viable? All are VMF destroyer commander threads, and they likely have all the discussion that this thread could produce. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
251 [0ASIS] HKRevolutionOfOurTime Members 842 posts 9,792 battles Report post #4 Posted June 1, 2016 What do you want to do with your Russkie DD? Your interests drive your direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
422 ckupf Members 1,947 posts 8,913 battles Report post #5 Posted June 1, 2016 I go CE on my VMF DDs so I can stealth fire and disgengage when i need to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 [-N-] urk_the_red Members 246 posts 6,727 battles Report post #6 Posted June 1, 2016 See: What is the optimal 15-point Captain Spec? Udaloi: AFT with DE, or SE? Tier 10 DD captain skill How do you think, if picking survival expert on kiev instead of advanced fire training is viable? All are VMF destroyer commander threads, and they likely have all the discussion that this thread could produce. Thanks for the info. I've looked at those before but I guess I was looking for something a little more Tash specific. p.s. If you're trying to eliminate all threads that have similar content, I understand where you're coming from, but you're fighting a losing battle in a never ending war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 [-N-] urk_the_red Members 246 posts 6,727 battles Report post #7 Posted June 1, 2016 What do you want to do with your Russkie DD? Your interests drive your direction. I've been running heavy on gun mods, but I'm curious about people's experiences with concealment builds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
251 [0ASIS] HKRevolutionOfOurTime Members 842 posts 9,792 battles Report post #8 Posted June 1, 2016 I've been running heavy on gun mods, but I'm curious about people's experiences with concealment builds. If you want to shoot at non-DD boats, a pure gunboat setup is good. A concealment build makes capping and DD rundowns easier to achieve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,322 [-K-] Special_Kay Beta Testers 5,660 posts 18,926 battles Report post #9 Posted June 1, 2016 p.s. If you're trying to eliminate all threads that have similar content, I understand where you're coming from, but you're fighting a losing battle in a never ending war. No, I'm just don't want to re-type my relevant thoughts when they're not that hard to dig up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 [-N-] urk_the_red Members 246 posts 6,727 battles Report post #10 Posted June 1, 2016 No, I'm just don't want to re-type my relevant thoughts when they're not that hard to dig up. Fair enough, didn't mean to attack. I was just drunk and grumpy after losing a hockey game last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,228 battles Report post #11 Posted June 1, 2016 full concealment with CE brings it down to 7.2km concealment. not sure if its worth losing other abilities though. with tash, you need to be shooting most of the time. aft and de are both good ability to have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
444 [ZR] DeadManxDan Members 984 posts 12,323 battles Report post #12 Posted June 2, 2016 I have had good luck with concealment, I just like to have the ability to engage and disengage. Still get solid damage with out DE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
619 [-GPS-] Landing_Skipper Members 2,954 posts 45,061 battles Report post #13 Posted June 10, 2016 The moment you open fire, you're detected aren't you? Except within a very narrow window? If I ever get to 15 points in my Kiev, I'm going to double up on DE & AFT and add BFT instead of concealment. Burn 'em at long distance and quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
113 Caucasian_Fury Members 707 posts 6,036 battles Report post #14 Posted June 12, 2016 Tash concealment can only go as low as 7.4 km with all upgrades, captain skills and camo. Tash has a very narrow stealth fire window, ~1 km. It's there but difficult to work with when the margins are that low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
