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My Minekaze and a friendly battleship advanced toward the enemy cap. Only an afk battleship was there to defend. As we approached, the battleship finally loaded and put up a fight. However, we were able to quickly sink it.

 

The enemy carrier was just north of cap. Being a slow Langley, it was an easy kill. My teammate and I didn't even need to leave the enemy cap to sink it. No other enemy ships were close enough to stop us from capping and winning the battle.

 

Meanwhile, back in chat...

 

I was being accused of "chasing the carrier" and being out of position. Apparently, a couple of players thought I should be in the extreme southeast helping them.

 

I'm all too capable of having a terrible battle or doing something stupid. However, I think it's ironic that the occasional time I'm attacked in chat by an armchair admiral, it's usually when I'm having a good game and making good decisions!

 

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Yep, been told in a NM I should be supporting someone on the opposite side of the map, right now.  Like I should suddenly drop the battle I'm in and teleport to the opposite side of the map.

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I sometimes watch matches. I'm often tempted to say something about the absurd behavior displayed by my team, turning sure wins into losses.

Then I remember it's just a game, and the potatoes I'm watching will end up mashed, no matter what I say...Embrace the madness!!!! :trollface:

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Ooooh I love armchair admirals!  I have too many examples to give, I've been accused of everything in the book.  On a few occasions they've been right, but more often they're way off base.  I always think, "How much attention are they paying to their own ship and play if they're busy watching me?"  They have no idea what you're doing or what you faced.

Mind your own business.  Mind your own ship.  Constructive advice appreciated, whining and name-calling only marks you as a loser.

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Achievement: Armchair Admiral

 

Requirements:​  Type at least 300 words during the course of a battle while getting reported for chat abuse by at least half your team

 

Reward:  Non-removeable rainbow flag :trollface:

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Ooooh I love armchair admirals!  I have too many examples to give, I've been accused of everything in the book.  On a few occasions they've been right, but more often they're way off base.  I always think, "How much attention are they paying to their own ship and play if they're busy watching me?"  They have no idea what you're doing or what you faced.

Mind your own business.  Mind your own ship.  Constructive advice appreciated, whining and name-calling only marks you as a loser.

 

Fun fact, most armchair admirals are already dead and usually have done diddly squat.
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Achievement: Armchair Admiral

 

Requirements:​  Type at least 300 words during the course of a battle while getting reported for chat abuse by at least half your team

 

Reward:  Non-removeable rainbow flag :trollface:

 

+1 That made me laugh out loud :)

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Fun fact, most armchair admirals are already dead and usually have done diddly squat.

 

  Agreed!  Success (better than them) is the best revenge :)

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  Agreed!  Success (better than them) is the best revenge :)

 

Oh there are some armchair admirals out there who don't try so much as to quarterback insomuch as just give useful info like "hey DD was last spotted in this grind heading this direction."  Or some sit over a ship and play guardian angel. Saved me a few times.
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Achievement: Armchair Admiral

 

Requirements:​  Type at least 300 words during the course of a battle while getting reported for chat abuse by at least half your team

 

Reward:  Non-removeable rainbow flag :trollface:

Awesome! 

 

Quote of the day right there :medal:

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When in the middle of a game it would be nice if all those admirals realized that opinions are like a-wholes, everyone has them and they all stink. They just become a distraction.

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Oh there are some armchair admirals out there who don't try so much as to quarterback insomuch as just give useful info like "hey DD was last spotted in this grind heading this direction."  Or some sit over a ship and play guardian angel. Saved me a few times.

 

Agreed. I appreciate those who are helpful.
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I had s situation where I had been riding shotgun in my North Carolina for 2 CV's and once a Cleveland showed up, I turned to engage a pair of Pensacolas that were coming up. Mind you, the CV was pretty well covered for AA, but a member of CINCCHAIRFLEET started yelling at me, giving commands and going nuts, demanding I turn to port (which would have caused me to hit a spread of torps from a DD)...good times. He then started yelling at other people from his dead Colorado...

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However, I think it's ironic that the occasional time I'm attacked in chat by an armchair admiral, it's usually when I'm having a good game and making good decisions!

 

It depends whether or not your decisions actually were good. Lets use the "chasing the carrier" example you gave. Murdering "sky cancer" is a fantastic goal and encouraged! However, there are times where this is not the best choice. For example, if the enemy team is in possession of all of the caps, if the battleships are in a dead lock, and probably a dozen other situations I'm sure you folks can think of. While your first impulse may be "Frak that guy, he is yelling at me from beyond the grave! Obviously he is the one that messed up!", take a moment... actually, take ten seconds and actively look (not just glance) at the map and your surroundings. If your original plan still feels like the best path to victory, carry on! However, if following their instructions could bring about a certain set of results that is beyond your present comprehension... at least give it a consideration. 

 

Yes, I am an armchair admiral. Yes, I am probably dead already if I am speaking to specific people. Yes, you should probably listen because yes, I can probably play your ship better than you and I probably also have higher overall results. All I ask is ten seconds of consideration. This is Warships. You have enough time for ten seconds. 

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It depends whether or not your decisions actually were good. Lets use the "chasing the carrier" example you gave. Murdering "sky cancer" is a fantastic goal and encouraged! However, there are times where this is not the best choice. For example, if the enemy team is in possession of all of the caps, if the battleships are in a dead lock, and probably a dozen other situations I'm sure you folks can think of. While your first impulse may be "Frak that guy, he is yelling at me from beyond the grave! Obviously he is the one that messed up!", take a moment... actually, take ten seconds and actively look (not just glance) at the map and your surroundings. If your original plan still feels like the best path to victory, carry on! However, if following their instructions could bring about a certain set of results that is beyond your present comprehension... at least give it a consideration. 

 

Yes, I am an armchair admiral. Yes, I am probably dead already if I am speaking to specific people. Yes, you should probably listen because yes, I can probably play your ship better than you and I probably also have higher overall results. All I ask is ten seconds of consideration. This is Warships. You have enough time for ten seconds. 

 

Look, I get that "chasing a carrier" is often not the right thing to do. But the battleship and I killed the carrier without even leaving enemy cap, capped their base, and won the game. I'm more than willing to listen to suggestions, and I will often make suggestions myself. My issue is when criticism is (pun intended) way off base.

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I had a great one on Saturday. I was in my Warspite on Straits and it was a two zone map.  I spawned in the north near the enemy cap so i messaged the team before the count down was done that we should head south to support our cap (normal tactic for the 2 cap version of this map)   Two of the other players with me immediately pinged affirmatives and we all head down.  but a New Mexico and two cruisers decided to stay in the north and as they are getting chewed to dog meat, the NM starts screaming in chat to "Kill that mother******* Warspite!"  and calling me the C word and a whole other bunch off nasty stuff.   I look on the map to see who this idiot is and he's actually beached on that big island that divides the Strait (on the west side) and, of course, he dies soon after that.

 

There's really two things in this game that seriously make me think that most people that play this game are just plain stupid.  One is when a team can't understand how to play a four cap domination map... you know the teams that all bunch up on one cap and spend the game trying to kill ships then wonder why they lose so fast.  And the other is those who can't understand that unless you defend your one and only cap in a two cap match, it doesn't matter how good you do... a single DD can steal a win in minutes.

 

 

 

Had a similar, was in my Imperator and while everyone went south, I remained in the north, alone.  Why?  For the sole purpose of tying up the enemy ships up there with me.  For 6-7 minutes I tied up six enemy ships.  We easily won as the south team crushed their group then came north for the win.  Did I sink, yes, do some damage, killed an enemy DD.  I could have gone south, but with my slow speed I would have missed most of the battle.  By going north I also pulled the enemy north instead of south.

Last game in it my team did the same thing, except they all left our home cap leaving me alone to defend.  We lost.

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Eh I probably fall into that category... I hate it when randoms tell me what to do but I often tell them what to do lol :popcorn:

 

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The best AAs are the BBs who wander off alone and demand Air Cover for the entire match with no breaks to rearm.  Or the ones who demand air cover as the torps that will kill them are already in the water

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Had this on Saturday, I was in my NC, my brother was in his Amagi, and we had an Atago, New Orleans, and Pen escorting us on Two Brothers. We head towards A but to the left because generally that is where the battle is on that side of the map. Our Pen and NO intercept an enemy DD and 2x CAs, the Pen takes out the DD but is taken down by torps and enemy CA fire. The NO is able to take out 1 of the enemy cruisers before he goes down as well. The Amagi and I focus fire and take out the remaining CA. However we have a Tirpitz, CO, and Iowa coming around the other side of the island. The three of us engage and take them out after a pretty heated battle.

 

At this time the other NC on our team which died early on on the other side of the map (over by C) is yelling at the three of us stating we need to contribute. Now if you have done the math you see we managed to route and sink half the enemy team while they other side was working to defend C. We are currently on our way over to regroup with our remaining teammates but the entire time this guy is yelling (all caps) in chat about how we have abandoned our team and are all just useless. We ended up winning the match by killing the enemy but we also had A & B capped.

 

Armchair Admirals will always find someone to blame for a situation, anyone but themselves. I understand offering helpful info when your dead, like pointing out to a live player that the ship that sunk you is coming around a bend on Fault Line. I can't get the players that get upset when people are making an effort and actually contributing.

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I'm one of them.

 

I tend to get vocal when team mates throw away games by not paying attention to basic game play dynamics like leaving an entire side of a map unchallenged, BBs hiding en mass behind islands or ships going 10 line out of play for a quarter of match, cruisers not covering DDs that are scouting for them, DDs that won't scout etc etc etc.

 

As much as people don't like being told how they can help to win a substantial amount of players don't have the faintest idea how they are playing to lose.

 

Just look up the stats of some "don't tell me how to play" people and ask yourself if you see any indication that they actually do. Some do know and some don't.

I benefited greatly from vocal players griping about throw away wins in game. I couldn't help but notice how frustrated people were with team mates who did not or would not bother to do what it takes to win.

 

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Fun fact, most armchair admirals are already dead and usually have done diddly squat.

 

My favorite is the guy in a mid or bottom tier CA/CL that dies because he went off by himself, then tells the team to "enjoy their loss", usually as your lemming train is demolishing the half of the enemy team that WASN'T waiting for the lone disgruntled cruiser.....

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Hi, my name is gurudennis and I'm an armchair admiral. I sometimes give polite advice or suggest a strategy in the beginning and let it play itself out. Regardless of strategy, if I see people doing clearly dumb things (chasing a fast carrier in a DD, sitting in a blob away from objectives, cowardice in the face of weak opposition, failure to act in a moment of decision etc.) I will make it understood very clearly and resort to strong expressions if the idiocy continues. I wish I could contain myself a better on these occasions, but I can't. Fact of the matter is, as Brofisticus said, chances are I can play their ship better than they can or at the very least have better tactical awareness in the moment (seeing as I'm not the one doing dumb things in this instance). Failure to listen and consider the suggestions merely exposes them as a potato that they likely are. Occasionally I'll be wrong, too, but such is life.

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Hi, my name is gurudennis and I'm an armchair admiral. I sometimes give polite advice or suggest a strategy in the beginning and let it play itself out. Regardless of strategy, if I see people doing clearly dumb things (chasing a fast carrier in a DD, sitting in a blob away from objectives, cowardice in the face of weak opposition, failure to act in a moment of decision etc.) I will make it understood very clearly and resort to strong expressions if the idiocy continues. I wish I could contain myself a better on these occasions, but I can't. Fact of the matter is, as Brofisticus said, chances are I can play their ship better than they can or at the very least have better tactical awareness in the moment (seeing as I'm not the one doing dumb things in this instance).

 

Same for me. Only, chances are that I CANNOT play their ship better than they can, I'm just cursed with ridiculous powers of observation and attention to detail, which translates to me pretty much being able to tell you where every enemy ship is on the map at any time, especially at times when I'm not actively fighting. (like when I'm dead, after having run off someplace by myself, on some Quixotic quest.)

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Oh there are some armchair admirals out there who don't try so much as to quarterback insomuch as just give useful info like "hey DD was last spotted in this grind heading this direction."  Or some sit over a ship and play guardian angel. Saved me a few times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

YEP!!!!    I'VE DONE THAT

I will not arm chair admiral a match.  however, I have sat back after getting killed and watch the remaining match.  Sometimes I will hit chat and try to help team if I see a threat I don't think they noticed.   dd at grid.......    or cv at grid........   I also play guardian angel and place the cam atop a friendly ship to watch the match. 

 

 

TalonV  yer handle is familiar.  not just here here on the forums.......   I think I've seen you in game...    if i'm right, well played!! 

 

 

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