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I could not find any good  category to post this. So sorry if i made any mistake

 

"OP club!" 

 

its a in game channel. People with 55up win-rates are welcome here.

 

specially for those who facing defeats for noob teammates frequently while being the top of the game stats.

 

just search the club in game channel "OP club!" 

 

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Well in reality your win rate and other stats don't mean anything when it comes to player skill, but sure..

 

Edit: They mean some, but there are tons of good players that dont get a higher win rate because they dont tryhard 24/7 and play for fun.

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In reality, win rate and stats mean (almost) everything when it comes to player skill... :hiding:

 

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Well in reality your win rate and other stats don't mean anything when it comes to player skill, but sure..

 

One's WR will be better for a better player, better players frequently carry their teams to a win. So 'yes' WR does have some relevance! However, I feel that a few other stats have more bearing on one's abilities.  

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OK... but how will you keep the those with less than 55% out? Or, for that matter, the trolls who will read this and then spam the channel...

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In reality, win rate and stats mean (almost) everything when it comes to player skill... :hiding:

 

Absolutely not, for example I don't have the greatest win rate that I could have due to the fact that I play the iowa only largely, and I don't try as hard as I could be trying to get my win rate up, I just play the game for fun.

 

If I tryharded 24/7 and only played the Imperator Nikolai I could pull off a 60% WR lol

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Absolutely not, for example I don't have the greatest win rate that I could have due to the fact that I play the iowa only largely, and I don't try as hard as I could be trying to get my win rate up, I just play the game for fun.

Your win rate reflects the current skill with which you play matches. Pushing into a large group of enemies and going down guns blazing may be fun, but it's also probably not the best choice to make if you want to win. I have no problem with playing for fun; it is, after all, what games are meant for. However, how often you win matches and how much damage you deal in ships is definitely an indicator of how well you perform in the game. If someone has, say, a 55% win rate in a Minekaze over 200 matches, then you can reasonably expect them to perform at about that level every time they hit battle (improvement is certainly possible, but here I'll be assuming that this hypothetical skill level is static). They may be capable of a 60% win rate if they try their hardest every single battle, but the reality is that they still have a 55% win rate and that is how well they will perform in any given match. When I see somebody with an average 50% win rate over a large sample size, I assume that they will playing at an average skill level, not that they may secretly be a 70% win rate wizard in disguise, and that is what I will see almost every single time.

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Your win rate reflects the current skill with which you play matches. Pushing into a large group of enemies and going down guns blazing may be fun, but it's also probably not the best choice to make if you want to win. I have no problem with playing for fun; it is, after all, what games are meant for. However, how often you win matches and how much damage you deal in ships is definitely an indicator of how well you perform in the game. If someone has, say, a 55% win rate in a Minekaze over 200 matches, then you can reasonably expect them to perform at about that level every time they hit battle (improvement is certainly possible, but here I'll be assuming that this hypothetical skill level is static). They may be capable of a 60% win rate if they try their hardest every single battle, but the reality is that they still have a 55% win rate and that is how well they will perform in any given match. When I see somebody with an average 50% win rate over a large sample size, I assume that they will playing at an average skill level, not that they may secretly be a 70% win rate wizard in disguise, and that is what I will see almost every single time.

 

Well that's the thing, this minekaze isn't bad, he's actually quite good if he is skilled enough to get a 60% win rate. See, I am saying that there is a difference between actual player skill and win rate. 

 

As well, if this player only plays the minekaze 24/7 than this will change his win rate altogether.

 

I got a 67% win rate in the colorado, after more than a hundred matches. If I only played the colorado I would have a 67% win rate, unfortunately I like playing the North Carolina and Iowa, and this brings my win rate down. Does this mean I am a worse player? No, but it makes the difference between you people judging me as a wizard or a peasant for some reason... It also makes the difference between me getting in this "chat" or not.

 

Also, we're not accounting for all those players that play in divisions exclusively. If you play with communication with 2 other good players, than your overall win rate can be VERY inflated compared to that of a random pub player with no divisions.

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yeah it means a lottt... 

you are saying it casue u don have that good winrates...

 

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I use your teamspeak often, thanks for allowing us to use it :)

 

Neither this thread nor this in game channel has anything to do with the OverPowered (OP) clan... 

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Well that's the thing, this minekaze isn't bad, he's actually quite good if he is skilled enough to get a 60% win rate. See, I am saying that there is a difference between actual player skill and win rate. 

 

As well, if this player only plays the minekaze 24/7 than this will change his win rate altogether.

 

I got a 67% win rate in the colorado, after more than a hundred matches. If I only played the colorado I would have a 67% win rate, unfortunately I like playing the North Carolina and Iowa, and this brings my win rate down. Does this mean I am a worse player? No, but it makes the difference between you people judging me as a wizard or a peasant for some reason...

 

Also, we're not accounting for all those players that play in divisions exclusively. If you play with communication with 2 other good players, than your overall win rate can be VERY inflated compared to that of a random pub player with no divisions.

The Minekaze may be able to pull a 60% win rate if they 'tryhard' every single match, but the reality is that they don't and this is reflected in their win rate. It is a far safer assumption to make that they will play at a 55% win rate level in any given match and one that is far more likely to be correct.

 

In your Colorado, you make enough game winning actions to pull a 67% win rate. However, this does not translate into your NC and Iowa play, which have more average results. It means that you play very well in a Colorado, but not a NC or Iowa for whatever reasons. Are you a bad player because one ship playstyle suits you particularly well, but not others? No, not at all. However, it would be wrong to assume that you play at a 67% level across all ships when results clearly show otherwise. Thus, your win rate averaged across all the ships you play is a pretty decent indicator of your overall skill level.

 

As for divisions, I judge primarily based on solo statistics. Playing with other good players will certainly bring your win rate up and isn't as useful for judging individual skill.

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I could not find any good  category to post this. So sorry if i made any mistake

 

"D-bag Fan boy Club"" 

 

its a in game channel. People with 55up win-rates are welcome here.

 

specially for those who facing defeats for noob teammates frequently while being the top of the game stats.

 

just search the club in game channel "OP club!" 

 

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The Minekaze may be able to pull a 60% win rate if they 'tryhard' every single match, but the reality is that they don't and this is reflected in their win rate. It is a far safer assumption to make that they will play at a 55% win rate level in any given match and one that is far more likely to be correct.

 

In your Colorado, you make enough game winning actions to pull a 67% win rate. However, this does not translate into your NC and Iowa play, which have more average results. It means that you play very well in a Colorado, but not a NC or Iowa for whatever reasons. Are you a bad player because one ship playstyle suits you particularly well, but not others? No, not at all. However, it would be wrong to assume that you play at a 67% level across all ships when results clearly show otherwise. Thus, your win rate averaged across all the ships you play is a pretty decent indicator of your overall skill level.

 

As for divisions, I judge primarily based on solo statistics. Playing with other good players will certainly bring your win rate up and isn't as useful for judging individual skill.

 

I agree with what you are saying, but lots of players play in divisions and primarily specific tiers and ships, and they get a higher win rate than me, but they are not more skilled than me. That is what my argument is, that skill rate does not accurately reflect player skill, and if you believe this to be the case than I don't know what else to say. 

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I use your teamspeak often, thanks for allowing us to use it :)

 

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You've just run into the heart of the problem.

 

Players that think their results are not indicative of their ability. Easy enough to spot. As an example, players who campaign to lower the abilities of any ship, ship class or tier that out played them.

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One's WR will be better for a better player, better players frequently carry their teams to a win. So 'yes' WR does have some relevance! However, I feel that a few other stats have more bearing on one's abilities.  

 

WN8 is but one of a number of telling stats but in a fraction of a second of scrutiny at the others it can be determined to be earned or not.

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Absolutely not, for example I don't have the greatest win rate that I could have due to the fact that I play the iowa only largely, and I don't try as hard as I could be trying to get my win rate up, I just play the game for fun.

 

If I tryharded 24/7 and only played the Imperator Nikolai I could pull off a 60% WR lol

 

Your statement is contingent on the assumption that the rest of the player base is trying harder than you.

 

So go on and prove yourself, try hard and confirm how easy it is to be better.

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yeah it means a lottt... 

you are saying it casue u don have that good winrates...

 

Yeah it means the individual is lacking in life apparently and feels that stats in a video game are going to get them somewhere in life.  Take your win rate and 2 bucks and you can get yourself a 2 dollar drink at the convenient store.  Calling out noobs or players who don't meet your standards is pretty childish actually.  I have a very busy life, retired Navy and now working a full time job while going back to school.  I love playing this on my very little free time, I'm not the best but I do my part to help the team, doesn't mean I should be mocked for my stats only because I haven't quite mastered the game and replaced my life with it.
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Well in reality your win rate and other stats don't mean anything when it comes to player skill, but sure..

 

Edit: They mean some, but there are tons of good players that dont get a higher win rate because they dont tryhard 24/7 and play for fun.

Incorrect:  Stats are not based on how much you play, they are a sampling of how you play when you play.  In other words, there can be a guy who plays 30 battles a day with a 55% w/r, 50k avg damage and 1250 avg xp AND there can also be a guy who plays 30 battles a month with those same stats.  Your stats are your stats regardless of how much you play.  Bad players are bad players and the stats show it, same with good players.

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Why not just make some friends and div up with them? Why bother with a channel that limits yourself to 55%+? I think I may have answered my own question... 

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