Triple team kill

[SeaDox]

 

So I had this battle yesterday in my Cleveland on the Fault Line map where I was the of a team kill.  This “friendly” Ognevoi basically shadows me and never pushes forward to spot or engage.  He was never more than 1.5km from me.  After finishing off a red team Cleveland I turned my attention to a New York and began to burn him down, main guns and secondaries blasting away.  Then to my horror I hear: “Torpedoes to port!”  I knew a red team Mutsuki was in the area so I had a plane up and figured I had couple of seconds to locate those torpedoes in order to dodge them.  Not a chance!!!  The Ognevoi decided to drop six torpedoes into the water 1km from me.  I ate all six, thus protecting the red team New York from any flooding.

 

I was <5km from the New York, the Ognevoi around 6km.  I wonder what he was thinking dropping 4km torpedoes on a target so far out of range?

 

Spoiler

 

I did check his stats:  2900 games, 44% WR, 380 Avg Exp, 9300 Avg Damage and his top four played ships are all Tier 1.

 

Accidents happen, but what I found interesting was this…

The red team apparently had two team kills of their own!

 

Three team kills, one game.

 

[CAPTMUDDXX]

They all paid a big fine and will need several battles doing well while causing no team damage to return to normal. I hope to see a 12 vs 12 all pink battle or at least more pink than not on both teams

[bad_arcade_kitty]

i today once had a team of potatoes, one potato played nurmberg, pretended to be a dd and so did a torpedo run in numrberg dying in the process, crossing my torpedo course and preventing me from launching torps myself, here the second potato came right after the first one in cleveland when i launched torps after the nurmberg died... that potato cleveland despite me warning twice in the chat ate 4 my torps... and didn't die, she was killed a split second later by enemy fire saving me from turning pink! i was like... uuuufff, thanks, enemies

 

still was fined 122k -_-

[Crucis]

They all paid a big fine and will need several battles doing well while causing no team damage to return to normal. I hope to see a 12 vs 12 all pink battle or at least more pink than not on both teams

 

Honestly, that's not enough when you have players who are CLEARLY team killing trolls.  Such players need to have their accounts banned.  And yes, I know that they can just start new accounts, but at least this would force them to lose all progress on their old accounts and start all over again.

 

 

[bad_arcade_kitty]

 

I was <5km from the New York, the Ognevoi around 6km.  I wonder what he was thinking dropping 4km torpedoes on a target so far out of range?

 

depending on the course and speed they still can reach the enemy

 

was a silly move though probably, especially considering you were there... i sometimes hit friendlies with torps but only at like at least 6+ km range if they move in a silly course and ignore warnings

 

anyway your ognevoy likely wasn't a griefer, just a bad player, ogny got a better score than two ships which had kills and it's despite that teamkilling reduces your score

[Crucis]

So I had this battle yesterday in my Cleveland on the Fault Line map where I was the of a team kill.  This “friendly” Ognevoi basically shadows me and never pushes forward to spot or engage.  He was never more than 1.5km from me.  After finishing off a red team Cleveland I turned my attention to a New York and began to burn him down, main guns and secondaries blasting away.  Then to my horror I hear: “Torpedoes to port!”  I knew a red team Mutsuki was in the area so I had a plane up and figured I had couple of seconds to locate those torpedoes in order to dodge them.  Not a chance!!!  The Ognevoi decided to drop six torpedoes into the water 1km from me.  I ate all six, thus protecting the red team New York from any flooding.

 

I was <5km from the New York, the Ognevoi around 6km.  I wonder what he was thinking dropping 4km torpedoes on a target so far out of range?

 

 

 

 

Some people are absolutely clueless about the range of their torpedoes.

[Red_Raven_168]

strangely enough this sounds like something that Co-Op bots actually do ------ wonder if its a bot program being tuned

[LadyJess]

Yup more Pink ships on the horizon. Most are accidental others are the wthwere you thinking. What can i tell you things like this happens. At least you only ate trops on your port side. I had em in front ( red DD ) , to port and to starboard ( my own team DDs)  in one battle, had nowhere to turn.

[Crucis]

 

I was <5km from the New York, the Ognevoi around 6km.  I wonder what he was thinking dropping 4km torpedoes on a target so far out of range?

 

depending on the course and speed they still can reach the enemy

 

was a silly move though probably, especially considering you were there... i sometimes hit friendlies with torps but only at like at least 6+ km range if they move in a silly course and ignore warnings

 

anyway your ognevoy likely wasn't a griefer, just a bad player, ogny got a better score than two ships which had kills and it's despite that teamkilling reduce your score

 

 

I don't know about that.  After all, he shadowed the OP's ship all around the map, which to me is a sure sign of a griefer.  I had one in WoT a couple of days ago.  A guy was following me all around and just would NOT stop.  I'd try to turn around and run away from him and he'd just follow me and continue to get in my way and run into me and so on.  If I'd been in a high alpha TD, I'd have tK'd him.  But I was only in a Wolverine and I'd have had to fired a lot of shots to get him dead, and it wasn't worth getting a temp ban for it.  But that sort of griefer really pissses me off. 

 

 

[awiggin]

i today once had a team of potatoes, one potato played nurmberg, pretended to be a dd and so did a torpedo run in numrberg dying in the process, crossing my torpedo course and preventing me from launching torps myself, here the second potato came right after the first one in cleveland when i launched torps after the nurmberg died... that potato cleveland despite me warning twice in the chat ate 4 my torps... and didn't die, she was killed a split second later by enemy fire saving me from turning pink! i was like... uuuufff, thanks, enemies

 

still was fined 122k -_-

 

If it happened as you claim, you should be pink....

We increased the penalty for damaging and destroying allied ships. From now on, a player can receive "team killer" status even if they (#1)caused relatively slight damage to an ally. A player will (#2)instantly receive the "team killer" status when they destroy an allied ship

[CAPTMUDDXX]

Well now we see Team Damage netting a 122k fine is not enough to turn pink maybe one more HP would do it. Sinking a friendly though from full HP or just 1 HP getting immediate TK status is good. As for banning perhaps that will start if once pink a player continues dealing team damage in successive matches rather than working off the penalty

[bad_arcade_kitty]

 

Some people are absolutely clueless about the range of their torpedoes.

 

and sometimes about the range of others'
i recall i played bucky with 15 km torps, launched them at ships at 14km going to my side so the actual distance for them to travel was like 11-12 km if not less and was cried at by people claiming that i didn't know the range of my torps

 

also launching 8 km torps at targets 9+ km from you is often viable too if their course makes them go into your torpedoes, i hit a few torps that way

 

 

 

I don't know about that.  After all, he shadowed the OP's ship all around the map, which to me is a sure sign of a griefer.  I had one in WoT a couple of days ago.  A guy was following me all around and just would NOT stop.  I'd try to turn around and run away from him and he'd just follow me and continue to get in my way and run into me and so on.  If I'd been in a high alpha TD, I'd have tK'd him.  But I was only in a Wolverine and I'd have had to fired a lot of shots to get him dead, and it wasn't worth getting a temp ban for it.  But that sort of griefer really pissses me off. 

 

 

 

so you think that you can kill teammates if you dislike them moving nearby/ramming you?

 

may be that ognevoi did the right thing sinking you then?

 

 

If it happened as you claim, you should be pink....

We increased the penalty for damaging and destroying allied ships. From now on, a player can receive "team killer" status even if they (#1)caused relatively slight damage to an ally. A player will (#2)instantly receive the "team killer" status when they destroy an allied ship

 

if you read my post, i didn't do the killing blow

the cleveland would almost certainly die to flood before being able to press repair if she hadn't been killed by enemy shells in the very same second though

[Shadowrigger1]

This patch has brought out the Worst players I have ever seen.  It had me so full of rage I finally got myself chat banned for a day..    Man, it's so soothing 

 

[Red_Raven_168]

 

if you read my post, i didn't do the killing blow

 

yes, and that flies in the face of the wording from the patch notes

 this is not calling you veracity challenged - its noting the wording problems in the notes - or explaining some pinky problems

 

[awiggin]

if you read my post, i didn't do the killing blow

the cleveland would almost certainly die to flood before being able to press repair if she hadn't been killed by enemy shells in the very same second though

 

Reading comprehension issues?

 

Let me post it again, the relevant part.....

 

From now on, a player can receive "team killer" status even if they (#1)caused relatively slight damage to an ally.

 

[bad_arcade_kitty]

 

Reading comprehension issues?

 

Let me post it again, the relevant part.....

 

From now on, a player can receive "team killer" status even if they (#1)caused relatively slight damage to an ally.

 

 

if they meant that you always should get it for a single case of causing relatively heavy non-lethal damage to a single ship they wouldn't have much reason to stress in the second line that you 'instantly' get it for destroying an allied ship... i.e. like you get it for the first but you don't get it instantly and you get it for the second and you get it instantly? how much instantly is instantly? is it like impending doom that they give me the tkstatus in a few hours after the event? it's just silly imo, so i assume they meant that a single case of a realtively heavy non-lethal damage doesn't necessarily gives you the tk status

[MadCaptain_2016]

I try to NEVER run next to a DD.  Almost all of my "wthARE YOU DOING" moments come from a DD cruising next to me and getting tunnel vision on some sweet BB they see at like 18km.  

 

I've learned my lesson and I give every ship a wide berth if I can.

[Red_Raven_168]

I try to NEVER run next to a DD.  Almost all of my "wthARE YOU DOING" moments come from a DD cruising next to me and getting tunnel vision on some sweet BB they see at like 18km.  

 

I've learned my lesson and I give every ship a wide berth if I can.

 

once - managed to use the shadow to eat some red torpedoes

[MadCaptain_2016]

 

if they meant that you always should get it for a single case of causing relatively heavy non-lethal damage to a single ship they wouldn't have much reason to stress in the second line that you 'instantly' get it for destroying an allied ship... i.e. like you get it for the first but you don't get it instantly and you get it for the second and you get it instantly? how much instantly is instantly? is it like impending doom that they give me the tkstatus in a few hours after the event? it's just silly imo, so i assume they meant that a single case of a realtively heavy non-lethal damage doesn't necessarily gives you the tk status

 

That's not at all what they're saying.  

 

I don't know the numbers, but look at it this way.  You have a 50,000 HP damage meter that fills with your team damage.  When full, you get TK status.  

 

However, if you kill someone, you get it right away.

 

It's not that they'll give it to you in three hours.  But, if you continue to build up small amounts of damage, you'll get TK status.

[TenguBlade]

If it happened as you claim, you should be pink....

IIRC torpedoes are weighted a lot less than shells in team damage calculations, which was a change made sometime around when the game went live.  In addition they do half their normal damage to teammates, which was from 0.5.3 I think.

 

I've also seen something odd with the new patch, which is that TKs with fish don't give you pink status immediately.  I had an Omaha put 3 fish into the side of my ARP Myoko two days ago and he got away with it.  He was pink on the results screen, but it didn't say in chat he got a penalty, and his name wasn't pink either when he was talking throughout the battle.  After he bragged that he did it on purpose because he doesn't want pedos sailing ARP ships in his game, I put 6 Type 90s into him and didn't get an immediate penalty either.  I got informed that the status was slapped on me after the match via the Notifications in the port, but I didn't have a pink label on the team roster when in-battle, there was no announcement of an imposed penalty, verbal or otherwise, and when I accidentally rammed into another ally later I didn't take additional damage.

 

The delay might have just been because that match had the infamous UI bug as well though.

[Red_Raven_168]

IIRC torpedoes are weighted a lot less than shells in team damage calculations, which was a change made sometime around when the game went live.  In addition they do half their normal damage to teammates, which was from 0.5.3 I think.

 

I've also seen something odd with the new patch, which is that TKs with fish don't give you pink status immediately.  I had an Omaha put 3 fish into the side of my ARP Myoko last night and he got away with it.  He was pink on the results screen, but it didn't say in chat he got a penalty, and his name wasn't pink either when he was talking throughout the battle.  After he bragged that he did it on purpose because he doesn't want pedos sailing ARP ships in his game, I put 6 Type 90s into him and didn't get an immediate penalty either.  I got informed that the status was slapped on me after the match in the Notifications in the port, but I didn't have a pink label on the team roster, there was no announcement of an imposed penalty, and when I accidentally rammed into another ally later I didn't take additional damage.

 

1 - not instant pink is possible

2 - ramming can extend pinkdom

3 - massive damage may not cause pink (example posted where it did not kill)

 

interesting changes from 5.5

[MadCaptain_2016]

IIRC torpedoes are weighted a lot less than shells in team damage calculations, which was a change made sometime around when the game went live.  In addition they do half their normal damage to teammates, which was from 0.5.3 I think.

 

I've also seen something odd with the new patch, which is that TKs with fish don't give you pink status immediately.  I had an Omaha put 3 fish into the side of my ARP Myoko last night and he got away with it.  He was pink on the results screen, but it didn't say in chat he got a penalty, and his name wasn't pink either when he was talking throughout the battle.  After he bragged that he did it on purpose because he doesn't want pedos sailing ARP ships in his game, I put 6 Type 90s into him and didn't get an immediate penalty either.  I got informed that the status was slapped on me after the match in the Notifications in the port, but I didn't have a pink label on the team roster, there was no announcement of an imposed penalty, and when I accidentally rammed into another ally later I didn't take additional damage.

 

Pink status seems to be levied after the match, not "instantly in game", however on the results screen you'll still get the financial penalty for causing damage to allies.

 

During beta patch testing I hit a CA with one torp when they had maybe 2K hp remaining and it killed them.  I apologized, the guy was cool, said it was his fault, then I turned pink for maybe four games... \whatevs.

[scruffycavetroll]

 

Some people are absolutely clueless about the range of their torpedoes.

 

this times a bajillion. 

[Khafni]

Sometimes that TK stuff gets fierce. There was a three ship division on red team that started tk'ing. The Nurnberg torpedo'd an Omaha, then started shooting a new York who returned fire and sunk the Nurnberg. Then a Minekaze torpedo'd the new York. I watched all this in binocular view as i was closing on red with orher my team. I didn't see the third tk'er but I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall of their chat room...

[Red_Raven_168]

 

this times a bajillion. 

 

1 - mouse over the torp icon while in the battle

2 - mouse over the torp icon while in port

3 - range goes to the dotted line

 

wish more players could find any one of these