0 [KUMA] gu7001 Members 2 posts 17,936 battles Report post #1 Posted March 29, 2016 It's really interesting i got 2 bot cv in my team and we won this match. I really couldn't believe it was true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,028 J30_Reinhardt Alpha Tester 10,267 posts 4,608 battles Report post #2 Posted March 29, 2016 I'm seeing planes being moved....how are these 'bots'? Not moving their ships? If so...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 sniper3080p Members 15 posts 4,523 battles Report post #3 Posted March 29, 2016 I'm seeing planes being moved....how are these 'bots'? Not moving their ships? If so...... There's been an increasing number of CV bots lately and they have a distinct pattern. Here's a quote from a post I made in another thread: So far, this is what I've determined about these bot characteristics. (Some have already been mentioned before) 1. Bots will send all the planes to middle at the beginning of the game. 2. They will attack the first BB that is spotted, regardless of escort. 3. They will continue to attack any BBs that are spotted. If there are no BBs spotted, they will send planes to middle. 4. Once all the BBs are dead, they will start attacking closest spotted Crusiers. 5. The Carrier ships will not move under any circumstance. (pinned to the map) 6. Bots will not respond, talk, or scout. 7. They will not send planes to defend themselves from DDs because they will not attack DDs before all the BBs and CAs are dead.8. They are usually strike loadout. 9. Their names start with a capital letter and then only lower case afterwards. (ex. Naso_warrior, Doto_sniper. A human might do something like Naso_Warrior and Doto_Sniper.) But I am NOT claiming that this characteristic automatically makes you a bot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
192 [B_Y_F] Takamachi_Nanoha_sg Members 1,451 posts 11,752 battles Report post #4 Posted March 29, 2016 I'm seeing planes being moved....how are these 'bots'? Not moving their ships? If so...... I had a thread talking about their common behavior which seems like pre-programmed. They do it every time without any reaction to what is happening. I transfer here for you: 1. Strike loadout, being both IJN and USN carriers 2. Only attack nearest/first dectected enemy untill it is either destroyed or turn hiden (or they run out of planes of course), otherwise they won't change target. 2.1 Never do carrier snipe (as carrier is normally not the one first spotted) 3. Auto drop for both DB and TB. Do not adjust attacking angle for DB, straightly to drop bomb. 4. Do not avoid enemy figher/AA fire, go directly to the target regardless of plane lost. (even it was New Orleans/Kutuzov/Baltimore etc...) 5. Their fighers (IJN strike loadout with fighters) do not actively engage enemy planes but go to the same position as their bombers and stay there until destroyed by enemy ship/plane 6. Do not take any action when their ship is under attack, either stay at starting point or reverse until corner edge of the map 7. All registered recently in March, in fact those I saw today were all registered in March 16, 2016. 8. For stats, all about 500 exp per battle, below 20k damage and below 45% win rate. (And all of them were tier 7) 9. Do not respond to any forms of communication (even TK), and do not do any spotting jobs of enemy DDs There might be some slight different due to different bot coding or obervation error, but they all share similar patterns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 sniper3080p Members 15 posts 4,523 battles Report post #5 Posted March 29, 2016 I had a thread talking about their common behavior which seems like pre-programmed. They do it every time without any reaction to what is happening. I transfer here for you: 1. Strike loadout, being both IJN and USN carriers 2. Only attack nearest/first dectected enemy untill it is either destroyed or turn hiden (or they run out of planes of course), otherwise they won't change target. 2.1 Never do carrier snipe (as carrier is normally not the one first spotted) 3. Auto drop for both DB and TB. Do not adjust attacking angle for DB, straightly to drop bomb. 4. Do not avoid enemy figher/AA fire, go directly to the target regardless of plane lost. (even it was New Orleans/Kutuzov/Baltimore etc...) 5. Their fighers (IJN strike loadout with fighters) do not actively engage enemy planes but go to the same position as their bombers and stay there until destroyed by enemy ship/plane 6. Do not take any action when their ship is under attack, either stay at starting point or reverse until corner edge of the map 7. All registered recently in March, in fact those I saw today were all registered in March 16, 2016. 8. For stats, all about 500 exp per battle, below 20k damage and below 45% win rate. (And all of them were tier 7) 9. Do not respond to any forms of communication (even TK), and do not do any spotting jobs of enemy DDs There might be some slight different due to different bot coding or obervation error, but they all share similar patterns For #3, I'd have to argue that they do not use the in-game auto-drop. They definitely use the manual drop function (controlled by the bot) because 1. angle of torpedoes are that of manual drop. 2. I've seen two dive bombers miss completely to the side of an actively-turning ship (sign of a manual bomb at a badly-computed-projected ship trajectory). Check at 6:50 of my video on other thread below. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
192 [B_Y_F] Takamachi_Nanoha_sg Members 1,451 posts 11,752 battles Report post #6 Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) For #3, I'd have to argue that they do not use the in-game auto-drop. They definitely use the manual drop function (controlled by the bot) because 1. angle of torpedoes are that of manual drop. 2. I've seen two dive bombers miss completely to the side of an actively-turning ship (sign of a manual bomb at a badly-computed-projected ship trajectory). Check at 6:50 of my video on other thread below. It's possible, and both may exist in game right now. but regardless, they are easy to identify as non-human controlled. and I went to check EU and Asia forum. They also having the same topics there. One thing they mentioned but I missed is, those bot suspects averaging about 50 games a day! Taking a 15min match as average (which in my mind is pretty short), they need to play 12 hours per day?? Am I failing in math or.... Edited March 29, 2016 by Takamachi_Nanoha_sg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
977 [HINON] giovybez Members 3,381 posts 33,281 battles Report post #7 Posted March 29, 2016 smh whats with all the cv bots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
257 [O7] KamiSamurai Alpha Tester 1,146 posts 17,587 battles Report post #8 Posted March 29, 2016 I saw at least 3 bot cvs tonight. They were pointed out as bots because they sent their planes to the same muster spot and then picked a target. I also had a Hiryu that constantly attacked my Fuso with a pocket Cleveland (56 plane kills) and I'm not sure if it was a bot or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #9 Posted March 29, 2016 wow, they're making their way to T8? I guess they are making neutral income, if they are botting at T8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
192 [B_Y_F] Takamachi_Nanoha_sg Members 1,451 posts 11,752 battles Report post #10 Posted March 29, 2016 wow, they're making their way to T8? I guess they are making neutral income, if they are botting at T8. Yes I was thinking about their income as well. If they continue bot play, they will lose credits in high tiers so might not possible to reach tier 10 for them to sell the account Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 [TATER] xEvilReeperx [TATER] Beta Testers 56 posts Report post #11 Posted March 29, 2016 Saw one tonight. Whomever is programming these added a "set full reverse" command to it as one of the first things it does. We found it sliding very slowly against the back of the map Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777 [BARF] 1nc0mp3t3nt_1 Beta Testers 5,816 posts 5,497 battles Report post #12 Posted March 29, 2016 There's been an increasing number of CV bots lately and they have a distinct pattern. Here's a quote from a post I made in another thread: so would you say the carriers on the enemy team in this battle would be classified as bots in your eyes? http://wowreplays.com/Replay/2789 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites