385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #1 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) is why the Phoenix is still king. (of the Cruisers) This review will discuss the static gun layout and how that improves the ship's offensive capability; it tests how many rounds a Phoenix can fire doing a 360 degree maneuver and pits its AP shells at close range against other ships of its tier, to simulate a "you or them" close quarters engagement. Ship Review: Phoenix *please forgove some of the audio mixing during the gameplay segment. Some hardware upgrades still require some tuning. Other than that, enjoy!* Edited March 28, 2016 by steelreserv 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
583 QuantumEntropy Beta Testers 4,007 posts 14,539 battles Report post #2 Posted March 28, 2016 Best t4 ship after the isokaze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #3 Posted March 28, 2016 Phoenix is a great ship, but I still maintain that the Imperator is the best t4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #4 Posted March 28, 2016 Phoenix is a great ship, but I still maintain that the Imperator is the best t4 fixed my post to clarify for cruisers only...lol How is the imperator when its in a T5? (It doesnt see T6 does it?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,078 battles Report post #5 Posted March 28, 2016 I might have to revisit the Phoenix. It was one of the early ships I got in my career, and sold it (kept Kuma) over 10 months ago, when I got Omaha. As cruisers go, I like Kuma better and am now testing Svietlana (not bad). Might have to get Phoenix again for a second look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #6 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) I might have to revisit the Phoenix. It was one of the early ships I got in my career, and sold it (kept Kuma) over 10 months ago, when I got Omaha. As cruisers go, I like Kuma better and am now testing Svietlana (not bad). Might have to get Phoenix again for a second look. Pay attention to the AP test against the Kuma in particular. I have a kuma review about ready (which may be interesting for comparison purposes) but this may be "the week of the Kirov" on sttelcast27. History & review. Edited March 28, 2016 by steelreserv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,043 [SALTY] Ace_04 Members 8,930 posts 18,292 battles Report post #7 Posted March 28, 2016 Based on a recent thread, I thought the popular consensus was that Kuma was the best T4 cruiser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
315 [BLEP] Kingfishercritic [BLEP] Members 1,986 posts 18,171 battles Report post #8 Posted March 28, 2016 I personally find the Kuma to suit my playstyle much better. Kuma's torps and solid AP make it worth taking, even if it has minor disadvantages in other areas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
583 QuantumEntropy Beta Testers 4,007 posts 14,539 battles Report post #9 Posted March 28, 2016 Based on a recent thread, I thought the popular consensus was that Kuma was the best T4 DD Fixed that for you Kuma is the result of a Clemson and Umikaze when they had a baby Oversize DD with decent guns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
337 [-K--] RightYouAreKen Members 1,151 posts 9,210 battles Report post #10 Posted March 28, 2016 fixed my post to clarify for cruisers only...lol How is the imperator when its in a T5? (It doesnt see T6 does it?) Imperator does see tier 6. It can have some trouble with Fuso and New Mex, but is still a cruiser deleter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #11 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) fixed my post to clarify for cruisers only...lol How is the imperator when its in a T5? (It doesnt see T6 does it?) Does fine against most T5's it's weakness is sustained air attack. It does see T6 and does okay depending on the map. T6 cruisers are juicy xp pinatas. This is my craziest imperator kill battle so far with t5-t3 in the match. Edited March 28, 2016 by RipNuN2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #12 Posted March 28, 2016 Based on a recent thread, I thought the popular consensus was that Kuma was the best T4 cruiser. I think ppl have a soft spot for the Kuma. It certainly is good if played well, but you can see the results from the Phoenix above. Of course I have the advantage of knowing the results of my Kuma testing which I haven't released yet. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
337 [-K--] RightYouAreKen Members 1,151 posts 9,210 battles Report post #13 Posted March 28, 2016 What mod are you using the show the damage total in the ribbon row? ^^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #14 Posted March 28, 2016 What mod are you using the show the damage total in the ribbon row? ^^^ Part of the Aslains mod pack. Under "misc" at the bottom of the list its something called "Damage Meter & Game Clock". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #15 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Imperator does see tier 6. It can have some trouble with Fuso and New Mex, but is still a cruiser deleter. Does fine against most T5's it's weakness is sustained air attack. It does see T6 and does okay depending on the map. T6 cruisers are juicy xp pinatas. This is my craziest imperator kill battle so far with t5-t3 in the match. Its definately nastier than the other BBs at its tier. Of course player competence is a factor. Its on my list of "maybe" prem ships for future purchase. Edited March 28, 2016 by steelreserv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 [K-P-M] Montana_Prussian Members 1,616 posts 18,452 battles Report post #16 Posted March 28, 2016 Imperator does see tier 6. It can have some trouble with Fuso and New Mex, Don't forget Warspite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #17 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Don't forget Warspite The warspite is on my "yes" list from premium buys. Edited March 28, 2016 by steelreserv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,366 [-K-] Mesrith Members, Beta Testers 3,105 posts 10,659 battles Report post #18 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) How is the imperator when its in a T5? (It doesnt see T6 does it?) It does see tier 6. If it didn't, I'd probably average 85k damage per game in that ridiculous ship. I don't think it even does all that poorly against tiers 6s (except carriers), but the map selection of tier 6 games can limit its damage potential. Make the wrong choice on Two Brothers and you're out of the fight. Edited March 28, 2016 by Mesrith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #19 Posted March 28, 2016 It does see tier 6. If it didn't, I'd probably average 85k damage per game in that ridiculous ship. I don't think it even does all that poorly against tiers 6s (except carriers), but the map selection of tier 6 games can limit its damage potential. Make the wrong choice on Two Brothers and you're out of the fight. You guys are talking me into it. Persuasion is OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
192 [B_Y_F] Takamachi_Nanoha_sg Members 1,451 posts 11,300 battles Report post #20 Posted March 28, 2016 I had better experience in Kuma because I played pass Phoenix when I was still new. But looking it back I like both ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,153 [WOLF5] Khafni [WOLF5] Members 6,550 posts 29,927 battles Report post #21 Posted March 28, 2016 Not sure you've convinced me that the Phoenix is better than the Kuma. But I really didn't give the Phoenix much of a try starting out as I blitzed through it to get to the Cleveland. I may have to pick it up again solely on what you've shown in your excellent video. And don't go showing more bias for Russian cruisers than is already in the game! Stick to the plan and review the Kuma!! But whichever you do I'm gonna watch it. Thanks again for giving me a good look at the Phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 Kyrios_Mirage Members 28 posts 3,480 battles Report post #22 Posted March 28, 2016 Fixed that for you Kuma is the result of a Clemson and Umikaze when they had a baby Oversize DD with decent guns The IJN designed all their light cruisers as large destroyers. They were supposed to work with DDs as squadron leaders, and so had to operate like them, but bigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #23 Posted March 28, 2016 Not sure you've convinced me that the Phoenix is better than the Kuma. But I really didn't give the Phoenix much of a try starting out as I blitzed through it to get to the Cleveland. I may have to pick it up again solely on what you've shown in your excellent video. And don't go showing more bias for Russian cruisers than is already in the game! Stick to the plan and review the Kuma!! But whichever you do I'm gonna watch it. Thanks again for giving me a good look at the Phoenix. haha. No bias here. Just the facts! Thank you for the support either way. Its tough to beat 45 (practical) rounds per minute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #24 Posted March 28, 2016 The IJN designed all their light cruisers as large destroyers. They were supposed to work with DDs as squadron leaders, and so had to operate like them, but bigger. exactly. In the game it means a citadel and a spot distance of 11.7(?) km. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
760 [WOLF5] Patton5150 Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 3,084 posts 61,308 battles Report post #25 Posted March 28, 2016 My biggest issue with the Phoenix is that the Omaha comes right after it. If there was no Omaha, I would have kept the Phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
